The crime-busting women of Kalash

[django]

No vedism itself is monotheistic not Vedanta (meaning based, with lot of downstream puranic influence and reform).
And All four vedas were written here on the pak sarzameen.

Absolutely that is why we found Islam so appropriate.Kudos Mentee bhai

 

[Jaanbaz]

The Kalash unique religion should be preserved since it's a kind of religion that is the closest to historical Vedic religion. I hope Pakistan protects the Dardic peoples of Pakistan and even to the ones in Inida(Kashmiris).

Their religion is almost dead, there is currently only one valley of Kalash where they still practice their religion. Their welcoming nature allowed many Islamist preachers to come into their valleys and convert them to Sunni Islam.

 

[Nilgiri]

No vedism itself is monotheistic not Vedanta

Haha...that is a huge debate (you are not either wrong or right since it depends on what context you are talking here). Both have polytheistic and monotheistic tendencies. It depends at what level of discourse of the supernatural (and the soul's connection to it) you are going to talk about. Puranas did not "add" any more poytheism there already was in Vedas....I mean I can show you the very first chapter of the Rg. Ved if you want....all they did was consolidate lot of these disparate forces into 3 streams (the trinity of Hinduism).

The underlying monotheism that has always been present in Hinduism (past and current forms) really needs some study of Upanishads to have a sound understanding theologically.

All four vedas were written here on the pak sarzameen.

Lot of Greek culture and original religion was formed in today's Turkey. Modern day boundary only matter so much to a larger time period of culture.

@Joe Shearer

 

[Joe Shearer]

Haha...that is a huge debate (you are not either wrong or right since it depends on what context you are talking here). Both have polytheistic and monotheistic tendencies. It depends at what level of discourse of the supernatural (and the soul's connection to it) you are going to talk about. Puranas did not "add" any more poytheism there already was in Vedas....I mean I can show you the very first chapter of the Rg. Ved if you want....all they did was consolidate lot of these disparate forces into 3 streams (the trinity of Hinduism).

The underlying monotheism that has always been present in Hinduism (past and current forms) really needs some study of Upanishads to have a sound understanding theologically.



Lot of Greek culture and original religion was formed in today's Turkey. Modern day boundary only matter so much to a larger time period of culture.

@Joe Shearer

Apparently the soil there breathes Tauheed.

 

[TMA]

Absolutely that is why we found Islam so appropriate.Kudos Mentee bhai

And we have people thinking that "Hinduism" is what is done in Bharat only....I suppose since our ancestors converted quite some time ago...our view is only that of Bharat....but look at Indonesia, the Hinduism there is different..

Apparently the soil there breathes Tauheed.

All soil breathes Tauheed.....

 

[Joe Shearer]

Why didnt he just say that, he's trying to give it an Indian twist


That's all about Hinduism, prove to me that these people worship your gods

Why? Why is your opinion so important? You don't even know the difference between Indian and Hindu, or what a Hindu is or was.

Well its unique (though I believe quite syncretic now). Closest to original Vedic religion is probably what namboothiris in Kerala have....they still follow purva mimamsa (full near vedic ritual based) rather than Vedanta (meaning based, with lot of downstream puranic influence and reform).

Full hearty best wishes for these women of the Kalash!

One of the reasons for my deep objection to the Sangh Parivar......however, that is not a discussion for this forum.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Why? Why is your opinion so important? You don't even know the difference between Indian and Hindu, or what a Hindu is or was.

I'm not stating any opinions. An Indian is something that came into being on 1947 and a hindu is a person that belongs to the religion created by the IVC people.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I'm not stating any opinions. An Indian is something that came into being on 1947 and a hindu is a person that belongs to the religion created by the IVC people.

Both wrong, and that proves my point. Your opinion is simply not relevant, not until you become far more informed about these issues and concepts.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Both wrong, and that proves my point. Your opinion is simply not relevant, not until you become far more informed about these issues and concepts.

Really? I wasnt aware of the fact that Indians as a nationality had been around for longer. What history have you been studying, I would like to read some of that. Also what I was telling the guy before is that these people follow Greek traditions and customs. To be frank, you are no one to say who's opinion matters and who's doesnt. These people are of the same land as me, thus my opinion has more weight, then yours ever could.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Really? I wasnt aware of the fact that Indians as a nationality had been around for longer. What history have you been studying, I would like to read some of that. Also what I was telling the guy before is that these people follow Greek traditions and customs.

Come back a year later.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Come back a year later.

your opinion is not valued, thank you

 

[Nilgiri]

Come back a year later.

Joe what have I told you about chatting with fresh members on topics of worth?

Bad Joe ....Bad! @hellfire

Let them season and temper a bit and actually stick around for a while so it actually means something!

 

[Joe Shearer]

Joe what have I told you about chatting with fresh members on topics of worth?

Bad Joe ....Bad! @hellfire

Let them season and temper a bit and actually stick around for a while so it actually means something!

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[Hellfire]

Joe what have I told you about chatting with fresh members on topics of worth?

Bad Joe ....Bad! @hellfire

Let them season and temper a bit and actually stick around for a while so it actually means something!

Testing times ahead. I blame Trump for mainstreaming stupid

Even the seasoned posters here barely last a couple of posts on prolonged engagement before they twist arguments to religion, skin color (funny to note increasing number of Pakistani members claiming to be lighter shade ) as base for racial differences (RIP Anthropometry) and finally downright insults, the last bastion of an ignorant mind

 

[Nilgiri]

Testing times ahead. I blame Trump for mainstreaming stupid

Even the seasoned posters here barely last a couple of posts on prolonged engagement before they twist arguments to religion, skin color (funny to note increasing number of Pakistani members claiming to be lighter shade ) as base for racial differences (RIP Anthropometry) and finally downright insults, the last bastion of an ignorant mind

Thats a very easy route to go with Trump. The grand weight of silly-walk and silly-talk does not rest on one person ....rather a very large group of people found everywhere. For example, I can tell just how Obama also mainstreamed pretty much an equivalent amount of stupid if not more (where it really counts too)....but it just not covered nearly as much coz its WAISSIS to do so.