Tensions in Indian city of Ayodhya ahead of Babri Mosque verdict

[dani92]

I am going to need a source on that, you Indians are known for your lies.

Yea Yea facts that doesn’t suit you became lies even if all the world historians knew them lol

 

[FuturePAF]

I have not claimed in my post that strong evidence exist only because I need to do some research into this (let me get back to you on that).
You'd be surprised when you start looking into the evidence supporting the validity of ancient relics (Shroud of turin se le kar relics of Muhammad tak) and how there isn't anything concrete that can establish their veracity.
Religion is 99% symbolism.


For the first part of your question, go through this link. It's quite balanced:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...-sc-to-ram-lalla-virajman/article29110158.ece

thank you for the article, i read it and it lays out the case plainly; the arguments for any structure as a definative ram temple, at the location are conjecture at best. Besides reading the Bhagavad Gita in University, I’m not very familiar with Hindu belief; but are lions specifically linked to Ram?

also, pulling back from this location and looking at the timeline of the last 30 years and how the destruction in 1992 was done, it betrays a sense of anarchy in Indian society that is just waiting under the surface constantly. Elements that need to be managed and placated, lest they carry out vigilante actions. While something similar could be said of Pakistan, I don’t see an appeal to a higher moral authority bring the mob to reason, as can be done from time to time to somewhat better extent in Pakistan.

the way this case drags on and how it seems to be Playing out, doesn’t bode well to communal harmony and returning to a focus for national development. An responsible and honest resolution based on proven facts is in the best interest of all Indians.

 

[Nein]

Yea but the so called historical mosques in India were mostly Hindu temples the same goes for mosques in Spain and turkey they were cathedrals and churches

How many churches come from former pagan temples yes its a lot.

Indian Muslims are cucks

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

@AfrazulMandal what will be the outcome?

 

[Kabira]

You need to understand the gravity of what we are dealing with here. Despite what you hear and the halo effects at play, things are not as black and white as you think they are regarding this issue.
Ram temple is to hindus what Mecca is to muslims in its symbolic value. A muslim ruler had destroyed (claimed) the temple and built a mosque in its place.
Post-independence, the restablishment seemed like a no brainer to hindus, yet it was never acted upon legally because Indian muslims are as much indian citizens as are hindus (I know things are dangerously close to ruining that harmony right about now), and the judiciary as well as legislation deemed the destruction of even an ordinary mosque built on top of the holiest shrine as unconstitutional.
I know that you won't believe it but a lot of Indian muslims want the area to be given to hindus as they appreciate the symbolism. Like most things it has become a rallying cry for getting muslim votes and hence not resolved.

Be honest, what would you have done in a situation like this?


Mate, mostly it's the symbolism that gets religious sentiments pent up in people. There is so much in all religions that's myth, doesn't stop people from appreciating what the myths symbolise.

If only the world had more empathy.

What religious sentiment? Making up history of non-existent temple to destroy mosques. Extremist hindu sanghis even claim Taj Mahal was build on hindu temple. Looks like ancient Bharat had more temples then population.

Because if Ram existed then its birth place was in central Asia and even possibly in Pakistan, heartland of early indo-aryans. Gangetic plains so far in east had little importance before 500BC for indo-aryans while Ram is claimed to have been born much early.

 

[dani92]

How many churches come from former pagan temples yes its a lot.

Indian Muslims are cucks

I know many churches were pagan temples like the ummayad mosque but that doesn’t give the right to anyone to change them by force

 

[The_Showstopper]

Many mosques in India were Hindu temples but some say the babri was never built on Hindu temple

And many of those Hindu temples were Buddhist monasteries once upon a time..

This is in fact the most important piece of land for hindus.
Will damage to mecca evoke the equal response as damage to just any mosque?

Is Sabarimala not important, Banaras not important, Amarnath not important, Tirupati not important? Hindus have a lot of "most important" pilgrimages and once the Babri masjid site is given off voluntarily by muslims, there is a good chance that the hindu organisations will start demanding for other "most important" sites.

 

[Rusty]

Yea Yea facts that doesn’t suit you became lies even if all the world historians knew them lol

facts come with sources.
All you have so far is curry farts.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

What religious sentiment? Making up history of non-existent temple to destroy mosques. Extremist hindu sanghis even claim Taj Mahal was build on hindu temple. Looks like ancient Bharat had more temples then population.

Because if Ram existed then its birth place was in central Asia and even possibly in Pakistan, heartland of early indo-aryans. Gangetic plains so far in east had little importance before 500BC for indo-aryans while Ram is claimed to have been born much early.

This logic is nonsensical.

I know many churches were pagan temples like the ummayad mosque but that doesn’t give the right to anyone to change them by force

It does. Where were the hindus when the temple was destroyed? Muslims won the battle and got their rewards. This is logical.

And many of those Hindu temples were Buddhist monasteries once upon a time..


Is Sabarimala not important, Banaras not important, Amarnath not important, Tirupati not important? Hindus have a lot of "most important" pilgrimages and once the Babri masjid site is given off voluntarily by muslims, there is a good chance that the hindu organisations will start demanding for other "most important" sites.

No place should be given back. Why did the hindus fail to protect their heritage and why should Muslims today compromise for their failures?

If the cucks have the strength let them try to take them by force.

Again your and your fairy tales.
RSS "facts" are not real facts.

Again, in reality even in Pakistan ancient Hindu temples still exist.

These are all temples IN PAKISTAN.
So that destroys your lies!!

I am still waiting for your challenge tho....
But you and I both know that fairy tales can't stand up to facts so that is why you have not replied.

These are all relatively new temples. Original temples means built in the pre Islamic times. I don't know why you are ashamed about this fact. Our Prophet destroyed pagan idols and liberated the people from jahalat. He is our guide and source of motivation.

 

[Fireurimagination]

Yeah yeah no temple was destroyed to build mosques on them. Boy! talk about having head in the sand.

 

[paritosh]

Is Sabarimala not important, Banaras not important, Amarnath not important, Tirupati not important? Hindus have a lot of "most important" pilgrimages and once the Babri masjid site is given off voluntarily by muslims, there is a good chance that the hindu organisations will start demanding for other "most important" sites.

I don't remember reading about a controversy of a similar nature around the places you have quoted.
Regardless, you and I can argue about the relative importance, the judiciary has the responsibility of being impartial and far removed from sentiments. They have so far done a good job IMO.

It does. Where were the hindus when the temple was destroyed? Muslims won the battle and got their rewards. This is logical.
No place should be given back. Why did the hindus fail to protect their heritage and why should Muslims today compromise for their failures?
If the cucks have the strength let them try to take them by force.

I take that you let your fists to do the talking when settling disputes.
Mate it's all just periodic crests and troughs of pent-up anger, followed by a flashpoint and then retrospection, grief and reconciliation.

 

[Rusty]

This logic is nonsensical.

It does. Where were the hindus when the temple was destroyed? Muslims won the battle and got their rewards. This is logical.


No place should be given back. Why did the hindus fail to protect their heritage and why should Muslims today compromise for their failures?

If the cucks have the strength let them try to take them by force.


These are all relatively new temples. Original temples means built in the pre Islamic times. I don't know why you are ashamed about this fact. Our Prophet destroyed pagan idols and liberated the people from jahalat. He is our guide and source of motivation.

nope
that first one at least was pre Islamic. some temples are newer but we still have some ancient ones.

I am not ashamed of everything, I just want to call out Hindutva lies.

Also the fact that grand temples were being built post Islam also shows how much lies these Hindutva scum tell.

 

[Ashwasthama]

Off-course it will go in the favor of hindu's there country their laws/rules simple as that muslims are second hand citizens there many people don't seem to understand that.

There are some 40K mosques build by destroying temples. I would like Archaeological survey to survey all of them. They should be given back to the original owners.

 

[Rusty]

There are some 40K mosques build by destroying temples. I would like Archaeological survey to survey all of them. They should be given back to the original owners.

There were also 40K toilets destroyed because Indians refused to use them.

See, I can make up numbers too!!

 

[Ashwasthama]

There were also 40K toilets destroyed because Indians refused to use them.

See, I can make up numbers too!!

No I agree with you. Muslim invaders came here with the massage of love and peace. They never destroyed the temple of worship of others. They even today don't do that. The news pf numerous mosques of other Muslims blown today are fake.

Yeah yeah no temple was destroyed to build mosques on them. Boy! talk about having head in the sand.

Can't you see evil hindus have tried to build Temple by destroying back side of Mosque. It is clearly visible from Picture.