Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan and the India connection

[gau8av]

Allrite folks, these get tossed here way too often, that they're "financed by India", "secret meetings in the Afghan consulate", "RAW asset", "Chuck Hagel said.." etc without ever a shred of evidence, so I googled and here's the wiki on Indian state sponsored terrorism

State-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


India
Pakistan has accused the Republic of India of supporting insurgent groups in Pakistan, but the Center for International Policy in the United States has found no evidence supporting this claim. India's Research and Analysis Wing has been accused of training and arming the Sri Lankan Tamil group, LTTE, during the 1970s when it was not considered a terrorist organization by any country but it later withdrew its support in the 1980s, when the activities of LTTE became serious, becoming the first country to ban LTTE as a terrorist organization. Furthermore India Research and Analysis Wing agencies supported the separatist/nationalist terrorist organization called Al Zulfiqar since 1977.This terrorist group conducted hijacking in March 1981 of a Pakistan International Airlines plane from Karachi to Kabul.The group is currently inactive. Richard Holbrooke in who is United States Special Envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan stated that Pakistan didn't provide any credible evidence to back their accusations against India. U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel suggested in 2011 that "India has over the years financed problems for Pakistan" in Afghanistan. In response to this claim, Lisa Curtis, a South Asia expert at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative Washington think-tank, said, "comments on India's role in Afghanistan during a speech in 2011 provide yet another indication that he is poorly qualified to lead the US Department of Defence" Sadanand Dhume, former India bureau chief at the Far Eastern Economic Review and current resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute stated that Hagel's opinion reflect a "paranoid" worldview. Pakistani Government and ISI have accused Indian consulates in Kandahar and Jalalabad, Afghanistan, for providing arms, training and financial aid to the BLA in an attempt to destabilize Pakistan. But despite these accusations have not provided any proof to the international community to implicate any foreign support for the BLA

according to this we can put all the alleged "secret meetings in the Afghan consulate", "financed by India", "RAW assets" and the "Chuck Hagel said..." bits to alleged support for the BLA ..

so with zero evidence of even any support to the BLA, where is the TTP connection ?

I know Hafiz Saeed and Zaid Hamid were screaming "India done it !" right after the recent tragic events in Peshawar but do you guys have anything more than that ?

 

[livingdead]

you serious? wiki is written by people like you and me.

 

[Not Sure]

Oh man, people always need something/someone else to point fingers at, even more so when everything else is pointing at their own.

If you look at it with a third party perspective, it is actually good. The longer the society keeps pointing outward, the further it will sink into the abyss.

 

[gau8av]

you serious? wiki is written by people like you and me.

I know, hence the thread.. hoping to get some input from people here who keep accusing India of funding the TTP

 

[livingdead]

I know, hence the thread.. hoping to get some input from people here who keep accusing India of funding the TTP

India has capability to do it, and has reason to. Rest we dont know what is true and what is false. Dont we blame ISI.

 

[gau8av]

India has capability to do it, and has reason to. Rest we dont know what is true and what is false. Dont we blame ISI.

ok, fair enuff and entirely possible

but as was the case following the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, where all leads were pointing firmly in Pakistan's direction (phone intercepts etc) .. we should have some evidence about the TTP being "India funded RAW assets" who are destabilizing Pakistan.

I see India being blamed for the TTP all too often on this forum, and after Peshawar, it feels a bit weird.. I'm a willing ear to any rational person making those accusations as long as they have some proof, something.. or spare us your psycho ramblings and how about

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

India has capability to do it, and has reason to. Rest we dont know what is true and what is false. Dont we blame ISI.

Capability is fine but now?
Will we support a shariah implemented Pakistan in our neighbourhood? I do not think so..
Or the Taliban will receive money from Hindu India? Its really out of ma sense.. One Pakistani general told the Taliban are patriots and will attack India if Pakistan is attacked.. BLA I can understand.. But TTP no way!

 

[Screambowl]

India is not interested in any such organization which can become headache tomorrow. Pakistanis should be aware of this simple logic. But yes there are proofs that Pakistan is very selective while hunting down TTP. Only few leaders are in their hit list, rest are in their good books. Shame!

 

[livingdead]

Capability is fine but now?
Will we support a shariah implemented Pakistan in our neighbourhood? I do not think so..
Or the Taliban will receive money from Hindu India? Its really out of ma sense.. One Pakistani general told the Taliban are patriots and will attack India if Pakistan is attacked.. BLA I can understand.. But TTP no way!

If we want to fund there are defnitely ways to fund.. terror finacing is complex transaction, no hindu with a tika on his forehead need to deliver cash in a suitcase..
I am not saying we are doing it, just saying the intent and capability exists. Did we not support ex-mujahedeens(northern alliance) in afganistan, did they say no we dont want your money?

btw I am against it.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

If we want to fund there are defnitely ways to fund.. terror finacing is complex transaction, no hindu with a tika on his forehead need to deliver cash in a suitcase..
I am not saying we are doing it, just saying the intent and capability exists. Did we not support ex-mujahedeens(northern alliance) in afganistan, did they say no we dont want your money?

btw I am against it.

Northern Alliance were moderate at best, against the brutalities of Taliban. Of course if India had supported Taliban, Pakistan would have supported Northern Alliance. I know ur point, money can be paid to them by mens disguised as Muslims. Again India gains nothing. Taliban still attacks Indian points in Afghanistan.
Supporting BLA makes sense, but supporting TTP does not.

 

[livingdead]

Northern Alliance were moderate at best, against the brutalities of Taliban. Of course if India had supported Taliban, Pakistan would have supported Northern Alliance. I know ur point, money can be paid to them by mens disguised as Muslims. Again India gains nothing. Taliban still attacks Indian points in Afghanistan.
Supporting BLA makes sense, but supporting TTP does not.

TTP has never attacked Indians(except some soundbite), which only makes things more suspicious.

 

[ashok mourya]

 

[gau8av]

TTP has never attacked Indians(except some soundbite), which only makes things more suspicious.

TTP were behind the Indian soldier being beheaded early last year.

 

[scrumpy]

I know, hence the thread.. hoping to get some input from people here who keep accusing India of funding the TTP

I guess it is a guilty complex. They fund and support terrorists attacking Indians and so they believe that it is only natural that Indians are also involved in a tit-for-tat and fund their enemies. Maybe India does.

Look at the reaction of some of them to the outpouring of grief for the kids killed in the terrorist attack from India. To them, it doesn't make sense why a country which they hate, despise and want destroyed would sympathise with their tragedies.

 

[Not Sure]

I guess it is a guilty complex. They fund and support terrorists attacking Indians and so they believe that it is only natural that Indians are also involved in a tit-for-tat and fund their enemies. Maybe India does.

Look at the reaction of some of them to the outpouring of grief for the kids killed in the terrorist attack from India. To them, it doesn't make sense why a country which they hate, despise and want destroyed would sympathise with their tragedies.

Man, it sounds like you are implying that the terrorist attack came from India.