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Tall claims and jibes: Modi's 3-nation tour showed weakness, not strength

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Tall claims and jibes: Modi's 3-nation tour showed weakness, not strength - Firstpost


It is most unfortunate that Prime Minister Narendra Modi has chosen to break convention by severely criticizing previous governments on foreign soil. In global diplomacy this is not done. You will never hear US President Obama attacking his predecessor, George W Bush’s policies outside America.
Modi described India under the earlier regimes as “scam India” before a big audience in Canada. The PM boasted that his regime was “removing the dirt accumulated by previous regimes”. Presumably, this also includes the “dirt” accumulated by the NDA government as well as many BJP governments ruling various states for the past 15 years.

In Germany Modi addressed the NRIs and spoke about how the previous regime had “ freely distributed coal mines like handkerchiefs”. Of course, Modi was totally unmindful of the fact that the BJP governments in Madhya Pradesh and Chattisgarh had also independently given away coal mines worth over Rs 1 lakh crores to the private sector companies which were also declared illegal and cancelled by the Supreme Court. The former CAG, Vinod Rai, said he did not have enough time or resources to assess the losses that had occurred in the case of coal mines given away by state governments directly through their public sector mining companies. Of course, Modi has no patience for these details when he sweepingly accuses previous regimes of creating “gandagi”.
In fact the Prime Minister got so carried away by his own rhetoric that he claimed his government had done in 11 months what the previous regimes could not do in decades. The PM must avoid such hyperbole on foreign soil. Such exaggerated claims get badly exposed in a complex political economy like ours.
One big claim of Modi’s got badly dented in France where he surprised everyone by striking a deal to buy 36 Rafale aircraft as part of a government-to-government deal. This was most unexpected because an ongoing package deal was already in the works to first buy 18 Rafale jets and additionally make 108 aircrafts in the government owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd(HAL) facility as part of Modi’s “Make in India” strategy.
The “Make in India” strategy involved technology transfer and absorption over the years, which would enable HAL to become self reliant eventually. India has emerged as the biggest importer of defence equipment in the world. Therefore the idea is to leverage India’s position as the biggest buyer to help transfer technology, develop indigenous capability and generate employment.
However, with the surprise deal of directly buying 36 Rafale aircraft, and a subsequent statement by the Defence Minister that the indigenous joint production with HAL may get cancelled, the government has ironically converted 'Make in India' into 'Make in France'. It is well known that the French company making Rafale was on the verge of closing down for want of a new market for their products and the Indian order has actually revived the company. This means more production and employment in France rather than in India, as originally planned.:hitwall:
The larger point is Modi has been making too many claims, like he did in Germany and Canada, of bringing immediate transformation which appear to remain in the realm of wishful thinking. The reality on the ground is not very different from what it was 11 months ago when he took charge as Prime Minister.
By all accounts, the bureaucracy at the Centre and States have mostly not adjusted to his style of functioning. Though the bureaucracy does not speak openly but it privately admits that many of Modi’s grandiose ideas cannot be implemented on the ground. Many senior bureaucrats are still not conceptually very clear about what exactly 'Make in India' means, if one goes beyond the slogan. There is very little attention to details.
Another example of Modi’s hyper imagination relates to the Jan Dhan Yojna which, in his foreign tour, he described as the greatest scheme devised in independent India for the poor of the country. The fact is banks have been pushed by the government to create 14.7 crore accounts as of 31 March 2015. The real story is out of these 14.7 crore accounts 8.5 crore accounts still have zero balance. This writer has spoken to public sector banks and insurance companies and they all say it is not practical to maintain zero balance accounts as it costs Rs 125 per account to the bank to just maintain an unused account. It costs an extra Rs 100 per bank account to give a Rupay debit card as promised by the government.
Modi claims this is the first time banks accounts have been opened for the poor on such a massive scale. If NDA has created 14.7 crore accounts, former finance minister P Chidambaram recently wrote a newspaper article claiming the UPA had already opened 24 crore new bank accounts over 5 to 7 years under a special campaign to open bank accounts for the poor. Most banks admit that it is a top down exercise, amounting to "target chasing" rather than bringing any real change.


Indeed, if these bank accounts really exist in the rural areas, why is the Modi government not transferring cash as one time relief to millions of farmers suffering from crop failure across north India. This is a time when the farmers can do with an overdraft or insurance policy via these accounts as promised by the NDA.
In a survey conducted by IIM Bangalore students working under Professor Charan Singh, a former banking research Director at RBI, shows that the public sector banks and insurance companies are not confident they can reach out to the very remote villages under the Jan Dhan Yojna. Charan Singh said the task was indeed very complex and had not been thought through adequately by successive governments.
It is time Modi lowered the scale of his rhetoric abroad, as well as in India, and got down to some much needed incremental work on the ground. For starters, he needs to visit rural India to understand the nature of widespread distress in the farm economy. Shouldn't the agriculture economy be first fully secured as a prelude to 'Make in India'!
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@Guynextdoor2 The writer of the article seems to have lost the plot, it starts with one heading, then goes into several unrelated things other than discussing on the heading! Please point out your areas of objections (especially on "Modi's 3-nation tour that allegedly shows weakness, not strength, not sure whose") point by point in a cohesive manner for me to understand your pains and sorrows and explain or resolve them one by one. :)
 
@Guynextdoor2 The writer of the article seems to have lost the plot, it starts with one heading, then goes into several unrelated things other than discussing on the heading! Please point out your areas of objections (especially on "Modi's 3-nation tour that allegedly shows weakness, not strength, not sure whose") point by point in a cohesive manner for me to understand your pains and sorrows and explain or resolve them one by one. :)

oh HE has lost the lot not you? I'm waiting for you to defend the Rafale deal likeyou attacked net neutraility.
 
My points......

1) Modi was trying to change the perception of world towards India (which was an issue during UPA2)
2) Modi was trying to build the confidence of the Indians (be it common man, or a corporate giant)
3) MMRCA cancellation or buying 36 directly from France should not be looked thru the narrow view of Make India logic, The reason for cancellation has been explained in this forum itself
4) Yes i agree Modi has created a hype and expectation on him is huge (which was created by himself and he probably won the election because of that), and the delivery is slow..... But any new govt will take time to bring results, especially when the party is out of power for about a decade.....Let us accept the fact that he got no magic wand to change things over night or with in a year......What we need to look at is, what direction this govt is setting, how are they implementing those plans.....

Another 1 or 2 years should be a good time to judge this govt overall.......
 
What to defend on Rafale deal, please be specific? And where do you want me to defend it? :)

Now Bhakt will put hand right up the rear to come up with new stuff to defend the rafale. Here's the link Bhakt. Now let's pretend you know so much more about defence than Ajay Shukla that some random stuff from you is enough to discredit his analysis.

Rafale deal: Modi's Parisian blunder
 
Now Bhakt will put hand right up the rear to come up with new stuff to defend the rafale. Here's the link Bhakt. Now let's pretend you know so much more about defence than Ajay Shukla that some random stuff from you is enough to discredit his analysis.

Rafale deal: Modi's Parisian blunder

Ok, let me look into your pain in that thread! :)

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:lol: These idiots dnt even know MMRCA can not be reality because of that moron antony.

But still these fu**** need some thing to bash modi.
 
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Well I am dilettante when it comes to commenting on economic policies but there're few things that Modi has changed as an Indian PM in his 3 country visit. Modi was the first PM to visit Neuve-Chapelle war memorial in Lille and to pay homage to Indian soldiers who were martyred in WWI.
I liked the way Modi said "a permanent seat in UNSC is India's right", the G-4 nations 're working towards bringing an end to American hegemony.
Rafale deal has been kept under wraps so you and me can merely speculate on its pros and cons and RFP. But lets not forget that 7.5yrs of AK Antony's DMship had caused long delays in defence deals, the present government has to help the forces catch up and ergo some desperate measures 're inevitable, Rafale deal is one of them.
After a really long time we 've found a leader with such gravitas. No leader (none in recent history ) has been able to unite India the way Modi has. To me Modi stands next to Indira Gandhi when it comes to leadership.
There's no doubt that the present govt will reap the benefits of UPA's deeds, but lets give 'em (BJP) credit where its due, they 've sped up the decision-making process, UPA was moving at tortoise's pace.
 
The morons at FP, which some-how the anti-BJP OP seems to have a lot in common with, are as uninformed as ever, as always good for laughs. :lol:

If you people think Obama has never criticized actions of past US presidents, you are worth little apart form laughing at. Go look it up and just don't copy-paste articles from a silly website.

Obama, soon after becoming president launched what is criticized as an Apology tour across Europe, Japan etc. He was particularly criticized by the right-wing for wanting to apologize for the atom bombs dropped on Japan during WWII. There could not be a stronger rebuke of actions of the past than actions taken to end a war.

Its stupid to claim that no actions should be criticized or the PM should not try to draw political mileage from the failures of the past government, particularly when the context is to show how things are improving form a disastrous situation.

Besides, is it the OP or the article's contention that no one should ever apologize? So a current US president should stand by slavery and segregation when he speaks at an international forum as that was the officially endorsed policy of the first US presidents? o_O

There is little point in going into a point by point rebuttal with this OP beyond the main point I wished to make.

When Modi apologizes for actions of a past PM during war-time, get back to me, until then learn some actual history before whining.
 
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My points......

1) Modi was trying to change the perception of world towards India (which was an issue during UPA2)
2) Modi was trying to build the confidence of the Indians (be it common man, or a corporate giant)
3) MMRCA cancellation or buying 36 directly from France should not be looked thru the narrow view of Make India logic, The reason for cancellation has been explained in this forum itself
4) Yes i agree Modi has created a hype and expectation on him is huge (which was created by himself and he probably won the election because of that), and the delivery is slow..... But any new govt will take time to bring results, especially when the party is out of power for about a decade.....Let us accept the fact that he got no magic wand to change things over night or with in a year......What we need to look at is, what direction this govt is setting, how are they implementing those plans.....

Another 1 or 2 years should be a good time to judge this govt overall.......

So he spent $6B on a nonsensical deal to buy Rafale.......because of UPA?
 
Where did you get that from? Who told you it was nonsensical deal? What was UPA doing all this while?

So he buys the most expensive jets by quoting 'high costs' off the same jets as a deal breaker, and buys them at the highest possible costs, and that does not make the deal nonsensical?
 

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