Taliban kill 15 in attack on Afghan security checkpoint: local officials

[-blitzkrieg-]

America lost because of a weakness in the ideological front. If America was really serious about winning in Afghanistan, then they should have pushed for feminism, more democracy, liberalism, diplomacy, buying out politicians, pushing for a more secular Pakistan. America could have destroyed Pakistan like that, but instead they invaded Afghanistan and caused Pakistan to be on high alert.

I won't say they were completely unsuccessful, they did accomplish a couple of things...

Trust me regardless, how much west tries to push their ideology here, there wont be a shortage of Zia ul haq /Hamid Gul fans(one being myself) who would turn it into a failed project.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I am also a Pashtun and I show a middle finger to Afghan scum. They are our enemies. My loyalties are with Pakistan. Afghanistan claims Pak land. Afghan nationals are involved in terror activities in Pakistan. Afghans are scumbags. They live in Pakistan and hate our country. Your sentiments won't change Afghan behaviour. A cursed land is what opiumland is.

Not all Afghans think this way, actually majority of Pukhtoons are sick of this mentality of Kabul elites who sold themselves to any foreigners. USSR, then US, now India.

Yes I agree though, secularized, ethnic chauvinistic Afghan elite and diaspora are basically just as bad as their Iranian, Arab counterparts.

Some idiots are still fighting over if Maulana Jalauddin Rumi ra was ethnic Afghan, Iranian, or Turk, but where they lost focus is that actually his soul was a Muslim and his path was of Muhammad saws. He belongs to everyone.

Taliban who are mostly terrorists, foreign fighters, criminals and drug addicts are fighting the US .

Yet these much-maligned, hated, and cursed group of ragtag farmers, herders brought the superpower of the world to its knees. So obviously they have some positive traits as well.

Correction bro, the Americans didn’t not win against USSR they didn’t shed any blood whatsoever. History needs to be rewritten to show contribution was just money and stingers that’s about it, and this needs to be hammered in media and else where. They had no man or women fighting. This victor was Afghan and Pakistani only, anyone else claiming any sort of victory in they west can screw themselves unless they show some non-Muslim blood perished fighting USSR.



Hence Pakistani Nationalism is critical and needs to be taught in school. Quaid E Azam himself in a speech said this is no Punjabi, Sindhi, Baluch etc, you are only and only Pakistani. That’s it. We need to follow Quaid, not these Patwari Feudal Lords who were gifted land by the Brits and never shed a blood for this land.

Exactly, Pakistan and Afghanistan must unite to meet the challenges of the future. Pakistan needs security from Afghanistan, strength of tradition and heritage, and a corridor to Central Asia, while Afghanistan needs a strong centralized army, stable government, and access to the sea. It makes logical sense. We will become a superpower.

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

Opium land?? Seriously?? Is that ur way of showing urself as racist? Whats different between u and an RSS goon??? I as a Pakistani pashtun also find it offensive as my forefathers came from current day Afghanistan and so did that of majority pashtuns. How would u feel if we call u and others as ex ganguland?



How ironic, u contradict urself in ur own post and dnt even realize it lolz. U say afghans are in bed with india and then talk about american defeat. If afghans were in bed with india, US would have won the war long ago but its the real afghans that fight for freedom. Just coz a few minority groups are puppet n given power by US, doznt mean they represent all afghans.

Nothing wrong in that bro. Donot take it personal.My parents migrated from Indian Punjab.If any body on PDF criticize India or calling India a rape land what does this mean he is criticizing my parents or my race.No not at all.By the way to call spade a spade the whole world calls Afghanistan an opium land.Nothing new in this.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Correction bro, the Americans didn’t not win against USSR they didn’t shed any blood whatsoever. History needs to be rewritten to show contribution was just money and stingers that’s about it, and this needs to be hammered in media and else where. They had no man or women fighting. This victor was Afghan and Pakistani only, anyone else claiming any sort of victory in they west can screw themselves unless they show some non-Muslim blood perished fighting USSR.

I don't want Pakistan or Pakistani's to have any association with that Country, they are our Enemies, along with India . We need to focus on shutting our borders, send Afghans back before they shed more Pakistani blood in the streets of Pakistan .

Yet these much-maligned, hated, and cursed group of ragtag farmers, herders brought the superpower of the world to its knees. So obviously they have some positive traits as well.

There is no Positive about them, its just that they are Law less barbarians , who have nothing else to do so they fight .

 

[TNT]

Hi,

If that’s the case, then you are no different than from a specific group of Pakistanis who get angry upon anti iran remarks considering it a humiliation to religion WHEN IT ACTUALLY ISNT !!!

You are a Pakistani !!! Be a proud Pakistani. All this history and ancestors are the stories of faraghat and nonsense.

All humans descend from Adam AS and where he met Bibi Hawwa, so all this “i come from flan flan” is a plain stupid shit which has no influence in REAL LIFE !!!

Grow up !!!

Secondly, he just mentioned a fact, just like we produce amazinf Mangoes, they produce opium, their opium has always been popular since centuries. Mughals used to bring in opium loaded in carriages for personal use !!! It drove Salim (Jahangir) mad and insane !!!

Ofcourse u know nothing about geography and history and how it affects nations. Where did iran come from? We know opium is produced there but u dnt call it by name, thats racist, do u even have a couple of brain cells to orocess that??? Ur colour can be black, it will be a fact but calling u nigga or kaala is racism, do u get it now????
Yes am a proud Pakistani but also believe in religious brotherhood and rekations beyond boundaries marked by men. No wonder every neighbor except china hates us. And within Pakistan every ethnicity dislikes punjabi, i really wonder why. Sow hatred and ull get hatred. Also generalization of a nation is the most stupid thing a human can do.

 

[B.K.N]

Ofcourse u know nothing about geography

What is wrong with word opium land?
Is it against forum rules? If not then no one should have any problem with it
Afghanistan hates Pakistan because they or their government is slave of India
India is enemy of Pakistan
Iran and Pakistan are neutral towards each other

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Opium land?? Seriously?? Is that ur way of showing urself as racist? Whats different between u and an RSS goon??? I as a Pakistani pashtun also find it offensive as my forefathers came from current day Afghanistan and so did that of majority pashtuns. How would u feel if we call u and others as ex ganguland?



How ironic, u contradict urself in ur own post and dnt even realize it lolz. U say afghans are in bed with india and then talk about american defeat. If afghans were in bed with india, US would have won the war long ago but its the real afghans that fight for freedom. Just coz a few minority groups are puppet n given power by US, doznt mean they represent all afghans.

That's is why I highlighted the diffrence between the worlds Aghan and kabuli, but racist bigots like @Starlord does not want to use that and resorts for these attacks.

It has nothing to do with racism
He is calling Afghanistan opiumland because Afghanistan is number 1 producer of Opium
You can call Pakistan as rice land sugarcane land etc but Pakistan is not number 1 producer of any of these things

And those people whom you call a minority are ruling Afghanistan not ghairatmand

Does not matter I told everyone to separate their terminology and yet these racists refuse to change and state things like these

I am also a Pashtun and I show a middle finger to Afghan scum. They are our enemies. My loyalties are with Pakistan. Afghanistan claims Pak land. Afghan nationals are involved in terror activities in Pakistan. Afghans are scumbags. They live in Pakistan and hate our country. Your sentiments won't change Afghan behaviour. A cursed land is what opiumland is.

You are an Afghan you bafoon. What type of pakhtoon is not an Afghan? There is a difference between kabuli and Afghans. This is the final time I'm going to explain this to you.

Ta la pakhto darze oh kana da sta neeka cherta pakhtoom wyo?

America lost because of a weakness in the ideological front. If America was really serious about winning in Afghanistan, then they should have pushed for feminism, more democracy, liberalism, diplomacy, buying out politicians, pushing for a more secular Pakistan. America could have destroyed Pakistan like that, but instead they invaded Afghanistan and caused Pakistan to be on high alert.

I won't say they were completely unsuccessful, they did accomplish a couple of things...

America cant do jack shit to Pakistan. All their stooges will have a knife at their throats and they understand that clearly. The only reason Afghanistan fell was because we had to sacrifice a small number to save millions more. Before the invasion Afghanistan was as much under the control of Pakistan as any other province.

 

[Old School]

If Afghanistan is a country, then mosquitoes are also birds ! Afghanistan never should have existed. British created their boundaries to deter the Russian and Persians from attacking colonial British India back in the days when the great game was on among Persia , Britain and Russia.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Hi,

If that’s the case, then you are no different than from a specific group of Pakistanis who get angry upon anti iran remarks considering it a humiliation to religion WHEN IT ACTUALLY ISNT !!!

You are a Pakistani !!! Be a proud Pakistani. All this history and ancestors are the stories of faraghat and nonsense.

All humans descend from Adam AS and where he met Bibi Hawwa, so all this “i come from flan flan” is a plain stupid shit which has no influence in REAL LIFE !!!

Grow up !!!

Secondly, he just mentioned a fact, just like we produce amazinf Mangoes, they produce opium, their opium has always been popular since centuries. Mughals used to bring in opium loaded in carriages for personal use !!! It drove Salim (Jahangir) mad and insane !!!

We are also Afghan! And will not tolerate our name and heritage being dragged through mud by bigots that dont understand the diffrence between kabuli and Afghans

If Afghanistan is a country, then mosquitoes are also birds ! Afghanistan never should have existed. British created their boundaries to deter the Russian and Persians from attacking colonial British India back in the days when the great game was on among Persia , Britain and Russia.

There u go, it's our land being occupied by foreigners. Try explaining that to the racist bigots here who feel threatened by us claiming our own lands.

Nothing wrong in that bro. Donot take it personal.My parents migrated from Indian Punjab.If any body on PDF criticize India or calling India a rape land what does this mean he is criticizing my parents or my race.No not at all.By the way to call spade a spade the whole world calls Afghanistan an opium land.Nothing new in this.

It's not about criticizing india it's about criticizing you being a punjabi. That's will not go well with us and they better keep their mouths shut.

What is wrong with word opium land?
Is it against forum rules? If not then no one should have any problem with it
Afghanistan hates Pakistan because they or their government is slave of India
India is enemy of Pakistan
Iran and Pakistan are neutral towards each other

Nothing wrong with that its the part where u targeted Afghans. Not everyone in Afghanistan is an Afghan but a larger chunk of Pakistan is.

I don't want Pakistan or Pakistani's to have any association with that Country, they are our Enemies, along with India . We need to focus on shutting our borders, send Afghans back before they shed more Pakistani blood in the streets of Pakistan .



There is no Positive about them, its just that they are Law less barbarians , who have nothing else to do so they fight .

That is our land and is occupied by foreigners get this through your racist skull. It's as much of Pakistan as Kashmir is.

 

[maximuswarrior]

That's is why I highlighted the diffrence between the worlds Aghan and kabuli, but racist bigots like @Starlord does not want to use that and resorts for these attacks.


Does not matter I told everyone to separate their terminology and yet these racists refuse to change and state things like these


You are an Afghan you bafoon. What type of pakhtoon is not an Afghan? There is a difference between kabuli and Afghans. This is the final time I'm going to explain this to you.

Ta la pakhto darze oh kana da sta neeka cherta pakhtoom wyo?


America cant do jack shit to Pakistan. All their stooges will have a knife at their throats and they understand that clearly. The only reason Afghanistan fell was because we had to sacrifice a small number to save millions more. Before the invasion Afghanistan was as much under the control of Pakistan as any other province.

I am a Pakistani Pashtun. There is a day and night difference between an Afghan Pashtun and Pakistani Pashtun. Our language, behaviour, culture is different. Geography dictates this difference.

A Pakistani Pashtun loyal to Pakistan will never feel any commonality with Pashtun on the other side of the border. This is because we live in different environments. No disrespect to Afghan Pashtun, but we are different.

If an Afghan Pashtun lays claim on my land in Pakistan I am naturally going to resist his claims. Afghans have no say nor any claim to our land. They can piss off to opiumland and live in their own land.

As for commies and traitors on our side, we will deal with them just like we broke the neck of ANP during the elections. We know who PTM is. This group is a mix of disgruntled ANP members who identify themselves as Afghans and Afghan refugees. They cannot survive on our soil. Even if the Indians and Americans come to their aid, we will demolish them. We are in the majority, not the ANP or Afghan refugees.

 

[H. Dawary]

America cant do jack shit to Pakistan. All their stooges will have a knife at their throats and they understand that clearly. The only reason Afghanistan fell was because we had to sacrifice a small number to save millions more. Before the invasion Afghanistan was as much under the control of Pakistan as any other province.

Pakistan did not have control, but they did have influence, much like North Korea and China. However that influence is less now than it was before now that Taliban is being recognized as a power to be reckoned with by other nations like China, Russia, Iran. Pakistan still does have a large influence but its not as much it was before.

I am a Pakistani Pashtun. There is a day and night difference between an Afghan Pashtun and Pakistani Pashtun. Our language, behaviour, culture is different. Geography dictates this difference.

Through all that hate I actually agree with this post... I have an advice for this... Why not create a movement and get about 50,000 to 100,000 for a timed date where Pashtuns in KPK come to the border and have slogans that says "we don't believe in lar o bar", at least then my Afghan brothers get it so we can move past this issue.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Guys @Starlord and @maximuswarrior use word Afghanistanis instead of Afghans

 

[YeBeWarned]

Guys @Starlord and @maximuswarrior use word Afghanistanis instead of Afghans

No I will use the word of my own choosing . No matter what Cunts and b@stards like @Pakhtoon yum says, they will be always be Afghans , they hate Pakistan and Pakistani's so I hate them back, I am glad they are F'd by every Super power who invade them, send them back to those monkey times , once US leave they will once again start killing each other and producing Opium cause this is the best they can do .

That @Pakhtoon yum Chutiya doesn't even live in Pakistan and talk about us taking them in, but I am yet to see him taking any Afghans to Canada ? lol he was joined by another bigot from NL who loved to use multiple colors in his posts, than joined by a French dude, and appreciated by a Racists German/former Pakistan who think his race is some blessed or Martian ones . Afghans turn our own Pakhtoon into barbarians, see the Pathans who settled in Karachi Posh Areas, see the Baloch and Sindhi who spend time with Urdu speaking people ,you will see the visible difference in their life style and mentality . This @Pakhtoon yum i am sure is some Illegitimate child of some Russian soldier lol


by the way @Dubious before you issue me another warning , your beloved @Pakhtoon yum is tagging my name and abusing so my response is once again Justified to that Pakhtoon cunt .

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Pakistan did not have control, but they did have influence, much like North Korea and China. However that influence is less now than it was before now that Taliban is being recognized as a power to be reckoned with by other nations like China, Russia, Iran. Pakistan still does have a large influence but its not as much it was before.



Through all that hate I actually agree with this post... I have an advice for this... Why not create a movement and get about 50,000 to 100,000 for a timed date where Pashtuns in KPK come to the border and have slogans that says "we don't believe in lar o bar", at least then my Afghan brothers get it so we can move past this issue.

Their main problem is they think we are a
-Punjabi Army
-British Agent
-Artificial/fake state to divide two big cultures
-last but not the least 'daalkhor' which reflects their ethnofascism.

None of which is true..and that has developed counter-hate which you see here on the forum, which i dont endorse.

It was not us who signed the treaty of Gandamak nor the treaty of Rawalpindi.Also at the same time we were not the soldiers back then fighting for British even though we had some in our Army like Ayub Khan who have over generations fought for british,WW2 and then joined Pakistan army but that is a fringe minority which faded over time and does not reflect the vast majority nor the state.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Through all that hate I actually agree with this post... I have an advice for this... Why not create a movement and get about 50,000 to 100,000 for a timed date where Pashtuns in KPK come to the border and have slogans that says "we don't believe in lar o bar", at least then my Afghan brothers get it so we can move past this issue.

Pretty sure this has happened a few times, I remember a skirmish not to long ago and hundreds of locals came up to the border with trucks and guns.

Afghans learning from their indian brothers and called it fake news and them paid actors