Tajik town Tashkurgan, the last Chinese town before Pakisan,Afghanistan and tajikistan

[W.11]

Greetings Indian Friend

Borders of Qing Dynasty that existed from 1644 to 1912
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Republic of China from 1912 to 1949
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Peoples Republic of China 1949 - Present
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On the Other hand, This Spaghetti of states in 1836 View attachment 622695

was converted into this by the British which then evolved to India Pakistan Bangladesh Burma Bhutan Nepal and Srilanka
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regards

 

[zhxy]

@ahmadnawaz22 isn't he a Pakistani who dislike Chinese?

Not all Chinese people hate Japan
Not all Jews hate Germany
Not all North Koreans hate America
Not all Pakistani people love China.

 

[W.11]

Greetings Indian Friend

Borders of Qing Dynasty that existed from 1644 to 1912
View attachment 622691

Republic of China from 1912 to 1949
View attachment 622693

Peoples Republic of China 1949 - Present
View attachment 622694



On the Other hand, This Spaghetti of states in 1836 View attachment 622695

was converted into this by the British which then evolved to India Pakistan Bangladesh Burma Bhutan Nepal and Srilanka
View attachment 622696

there is no geographically defined china even to this day, there is how ever a geographically defined india since atleast the period of gautama buddha/buddhism.

for instance the qing empire consisted of non chinese manchu people, the chinese are those who speak chinese language, so it would exclude all the minorities included as part of china and those regions which are not chinese for instance xinjiang, tibet, manchuria, inner mongolia etc.

the last chinese dynasty to rule china was ming chinese dynasty and from their map you can clearly see that the geography of chinese was pretty different back then. Even during the qing period, the chinese geography extended into korea/part of qing dynasty so qing empire maps can be hardly used to define china geographically since korea is not an independent country

people saying that there was no india before the british are forgetting that india was in existence since the very early periods as it was geographically isolated hence well defined, india had naturally defined borders, something whch we cannot speak when it comes to china.

regards

 

[American Pakistani]

there is no geographically defined china even to this day, there is how ever a geographically defined india since atleast the period of gautama buddha/buddhism.

for instance the qing empire consisted of non chinese manchu people, the chinese are those who speak chinese language, so it would exclude all the minorities included as part of china and those regions which are not chinese for instance xinjiang, tibet, manchuria, inner mongolia etc.

the last chinese dynasty to rule china was ming chinese dynasty and from their map you can clearly see that the geography of chinese was pretty different back then. Even during the qing period, the chinese geography extended into korea/part of qing dynasty so qing empire maps can be hardly used to define china geographically since korea is not an independent country

people saying that there was no india before the british are forgetting that india was in existence since the very early periods as it was geographically isolated hence well defined, india had naturally defined borders, something whch we cannot speak when it comes to china.

regards

I know you love your Bihar and India but you don't have to post your Bharti propaganda here. There was no such thing as India before 47. Your India is just an artificial creation of British to keep countries like Pakistan and China occupied in regional mess. Sooner or later your India will break into pieces.

 

[W.11]

I know you love your Bihar and India but you don't have to post your Bharti propaganda here. There was no such thing as India before 47. Your India is just an artificial creation of British to keep countries like Pakistan and China occupied in regional mess. Sooner or later your India will break into pieces.

ABCDs or bhagoras now giving lecture to pakistanis living in their own country on patriotism and declaring them as ''indian''

what the world has come to

regards

 

[beijingwalker]

for instance the qing empire consisted of non chinese manchu people, the chinese are those who speak chinese language, so it would exclude all the minorities included as part of china and those regions which are not chinese for instance xinjiang, tibet, manchuria, inner mongolia etc.

Are Manchus foreigners？Do they have their own country? Manchus are always Chinese, they never think they are foreigners. India was conquered and ruled by foreigners, British are not from India. Not all Chinese are Han Chinese, almost all countries have multiple ethnic groups, but they are not foreigners in their own countries.

 

[W.11]

Are Manchus foreigners？Do they have their own country? Manchus are always Chinese, they never think they are foreigners. India was conquered and ruled by foreigners, British are not from India. Not all Chinese are Han Chinese, almost all countries have multiple ethnic groups, but they are not foreigners in their own countries.

in that case even mongols would be chinese since they form part of modern china

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_dynasty

regards

 

[beijingwalker]

in that case even mongols would be chinese since they form part of modern china

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_dynasty

regards

Some people of Mongolia separated from China after WWII, but Mongol ruling elites were all from Inner Mongolia and there are 3 times ethnic Mongols living in China than republic of Mongolia and Mongol rulers back in Yuan dynasty adopted Chinese governance system and followed Chinese calender, so yes, even Mongols are argubly Chinese, but Manchus are 100% Chinese.

Where do most Mongols live? China, over twice as many Mongols live in China than Mongolia
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/where-do-most-mongols-live-china-over-twice-as-many-mongols-live-in-china-than-mongolia.617973/

 

[W.11]

Some people of Mongolia separated from China after WWII, but Mongol ruling elites were all from Inner Mongolia and there are 3 times ethnic Mongols living in China than republic of Mongolia and Mongol rulers back in Yuan dynasty adopted Chinese governance system and followed Chinese calender, so yes, even Mongols are argubly Chinese, but Manchus are 100% Chinese.

Highly delusional and nationalistic claim based on current geopolitics of china.

regards

 

[beijingwalker]

Highly delusional and nationalistic claim based on current geopolitics of china.

regards

That's the fact, at least Manchus are 100% Chinese, if they are not Chinese, what are they?

 

[W.11]

That's the fact, at least Manchus are 100% Chinese, if they are not Chinese, what are they?

what about tibetans are they chinese, will the empire formed by the tibetans be declared as chinese as well?

it seems like chinese have very nationalistic/skewed idea of what china really is.

regards

 

[beijingwalker]

what about tibetans are they chinese, will the empire formed by the tibetans be declared as chinese as well?

it seems like chinese have very nationalistic/skewed idea of what china really is.

regards

Tibetans are Chinese if they hold Chinese passport, Tibetans in India are not Chinese, simple as that. That's internationally accepted fact/

 

[Song Hong]

No such thing as India. The earlier fake empires are persian, mongol, turks, and court language is persian.

More like tribal conqueror rule over Hindus.

At the very least, Manchu are Sinicized and court language is mandarin.

 

[W.11]

Tibetans are Chinese if they hold Chinese passport, Tibetans in India are not Chinese, simple as that. That's internationally accepted fact/

will tibetan empire be declared as a chinese empire? just like manchu empire and yuan mongol empire being declared as chinese?

regards

 

[beijingwalker]

will tibetan empire be declared as a chinese empire? just like manchu empire and yuan mongol empire being declared as chinese?

regards

There were many empires in Chinese history, even Beijing had its own empire thousands of years ago, but that doesn't matter, we are all China now.