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Surprise most KPK residents dont support ptm and consider it anti state

What Punjab dominance bhai?

I'm not a Punjabi, but I resolutely say that people need to let go of this false illusion of "Punjab dominance".

Please keep in mind that the population of Punjab is over 50% of Pakistan, yet out of around 15 Prime Ministers Pakistan has had, only 2 of them were native Punjabis (not including transitional posts).

Today, the Prime Minister of Pakistan is a Pashtun and the Chief Minister of Punjab is a Baloch, yet people are still yelling out "Punjabi dominance".

For a people that make up half of Pakistan's population, they are actually disproportionately represented.
I am not really Pakhtun as I dont have a real touch to my roots. My paternal and maternal lineage is however extremely Pakhtun.

I do however understand a little about Pakhtun upset. From my perspective, we have a lot of factors OUT of the Government's control that holds our development back.

Taliban and war for instance. It has destroyed KP to some extent. KP being a former war zone is just unfortunate thing to be honest. If Punjab had been a war zone, it would've been less developed too. Pakhtuns are just unlucky to be the poor folks of Pakistan.

You see rich, billionaires, tycoonists, opportunists coming out from Punjab/Sindh. You would rarely see any Pakhtun as such (perhaps Mulana Diesal).

The economy and jobs are in those provinces. Amonst many other better facilities.

Realistically, KP can never be a powerhouse (due to geography). But it never hurts to try? Govt can encourage private companies to move white-collar offices to Peshawar, Mardan, Manshera, Mingora, Abbottabad etc.
 
Pushtoons are the zaalim who think they are mazloom and this is their main problem
I hope KPK gets divided into smaller provinces and we the Hazarewal get rid of pushtoon oppression on us.

Astaghfir Allah. Watch your words.

What Punjab dominance bhai?

I'm not a Punjabi, but I resolutely say that people need to let go of this false illusion of "Punjab dominance".

Please keep in mind that the population of Punjab is over 50% of Pakistan, yet out of around 15 Prime Ministers Pakistan has had, only 2 of them were native Punjabis (not including transitional posts).

Today, the Prime Minister of Pakistan is a Pashtun and the Chief Minister of Punjab is a Baloch, yet people are still yelling out "Punjabi dominance".

For a people that make up half of Pakistan's population, they are actually disproportionately represented.

Let PTI rule for another term and all allegations of evil Punjabiz will vanish, except maybe for Sindh where PPP will stoke the flames over and over.

I am not really Pakhtun as I dont have a real touch to my roots. My paternal and maternal lineage is however extremely Pakhtun.

I do however understand a little about Pakhtun upset. From my perspective, we have a lot of factors OUT of the Government's control that holds our development back.

Taliban and war for instance. It has destroyed KP to some extent. KP being a former war zone is just unfortunate thing to be honest. If Punjab had been a war zone, it would've been less developed too. Pakhtuns are just unlucky to be the poor folks of Pakistan.

You see rich, billionaires, tycoonists, opportunists coming out from Punjab/Sindh. You would rarely see any Pakhtun as such (perhaps Mulana Diesal).

The economy and jobs are in those provinces. Amonst many other better facilities.

Realistically, KP can never be a powerhouse (due to geography). But it never hurts to try? Govt can encourage private companies to move white-collar offices to Peshawar, Mardan, Manshera, Mingora, Abbottabad etc.

This is because of Afghan refugees, many residents of Peshawar and Quetta are legitimately angry with the federal government for letting droves of refugees come into their cities. The economy of KPK is robust (you have Sui gas) and tourist potential is very strong. It can be even bigger than Murree, Abottabad, Islamabad if the security situation is better.

As far as the Northern Pukhtoon areas of Balochistan, they can benefit immensely from CPEC and trade from the next government of Afghanistan. Federal government is having a difficult time dealing with sectarian militias operating in Quetta targeting Hazaras.

Pukhtoons are in the ideal location to benefit immensely from trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan, Iran, CARs, China, KSA/UAE, and eventually Russia.


We already knew of this. Pukhtoons are more loyal and supportive of the Pakistani military and central government than Punjabis. Especially after TTP takeover of Swat and Waziristan and following operations to dislodge them.

They suffered the most in the imposed war on terror. US and its proxies are still promoting the idea that Pakistan is a traitor for (ironically) joining WOT coalition. They are playing both sides to burn pakistan, but alhamdulilah Pukhtoons are extremely loyal to Pakistan. They will fail.
 
there are many rich people in pakhtons and have own trucking and buses and other logistic business as well as have construction companies they usually do transaction outside banking channel so are unregistered billionaires of Pakistan
 
What Punjab dominance bhai?

I'm not a Punjabi, but I resolutely say that people need to let go of this false illusion of "Punjab dominance".

Please keep in mind that the population of Punjab is over 50% of Pakistan, yet out of around 15 Prime Ministers Pakistan has had, only 2 of them were native Punjabis (not including transitional posts).

Today, the Prime Minister of Pakistan is a Pashtun and the Chief Minister of Punjab is a Baloch, yet people are still yelling out "Punjabi dominance".

For a people that make up half of Pakistan's population, they are actually disproportionately represented.
This Punjab rhetoric has been used by other provinces since existence, well you gotta make someone the scapegoat.
 
31% is still a huge and alarming number; it is in contrast to my friends from KPK who claimed that PTM is mostly disregarded. Their support is only bound to grow as they have launched a successful propaganda campaign and bring up convincing narratives which is hard to counter by uneducated Pakistanis.

If PTM became a party and this 31% were to vote for PTM, then it would be the second largest party in KPK.


No one will vote them. Ofther then some parts of Fata districts. Gone are the days when you can get yourself ellected by using Pashtoon card in KP. Also, i never believed these surveys. You dont know which approach was used in these surveys. Are they collecting data sustematically , or through stratas? Abit the people nit voting for PTM. What other great example can be to prove that then ANP? Unlike the general perception , education system in KP is proving itself . In 5-6 years KO will lead in education that i predict.

PMLN/PPP is responsible for each % of upset Pakhtuns.

No pashtoon is upset. Its just that we all (all ethnicities) want a better Pakistan and are fedup of the day to day issues like loadshedding, health sector issues, lack of schools, hospitals, law and order situation. We all Pakistanis are suffering equally. And we all want it to be improved.

Pushtoons are the zaalim who think they are mazloom and this is their main problem
I hope KPK gets divided into smaller provinces and we the Hazarewal get rid of pushtoon oppression on us.

Hahaha. Ary yar apka baba pechy hat gya apny mutaliby se. Btw i was against this name change from start. I deemed it unnecessary. But phir vote b assembly me apky MPA’s ne he dia. Khair, if someone ask me i would like a separate province out of punjab (south Punjab). Move DI khan to Punjan. Remove Chitral from KP and add it to newly formed Gilgit baltistan province.

About the hazarawal. I agree tm logo ky saath zulm ho raha. Tm logo ko alag province mangne kay lye ye aik he baak kaafi hy ky Punjabi tm logo ko Pathan samajty hy or Pathan Punjabi :lol:

Btw i lived in Hazara , for 5 years.
 
there are many rich people in pakhtons and have own trucking and buses and other logistic business as well as have construction companies they usually do transaction outside banking channel so are unregistered billionaires of Pakistan
Billionaires hmmm
Yaar @RealNapster 10 crore udhar dey dey next month ki 30 ko wapis kardon ga

No one will vote them. Ofther then some parts of Fata districts. Gone are the days when you can get yourself ellected by using Pashtoon card in KP. Also, i never believed these surveys. You dont know which approach was used in these surveys. Are they collecting data sustematically , or through stratas? Abit the people nit voting for PTM. What other great example can be to prove that then ANP? Unlike the general perception , education system in KP is proving itself . In 5-6 years KO will lead in education that i predict.



No pashtoon is upset. Its just that we all (all ethnicities) want a better Pakistan and are fedup of the day to day issues like loadshedding, health sector issues, lack of schools, hospitals, law and order situation. We all Pakistanis are suffering equally. And we all want it to be improved.



Hahaha. Ary yar apka baba pechy hat gya apny mutaliby se. Btw i was against this name change from start. I deemed it unnecessary. But phir vote b assembly me apky MPA’s ne he dia. Khair, if someone ask me i would like a separate province out of punjab (south Punjab). Move DI khan to Punjan. Remove Chitral from KP and add it to newly formed Gilgit baltistan province.

About the hazarawal. I agree tm logo ky saath zulm ho raha. Tm logo ko alag province mangne kay lye ye aik he baak kaafi hy ky Punjabi tm logo ko Pathan samajty hy or Pathan Punjabi :lol:

Btw i lived in Hazara , for 5 years.
Dera bugti,Dera Imail and Dera Ghazi be merged together for a new dera jaat province :D
 
Everyone knows that its just topi drama.
dumd and uneducated afghan refugees just arent smart enough to get azadi.

PTM is the flavour of the month with these uneducated first time facebook users. eventually they will get bored and move on. theres only so many times someone is goign to like your display pic on facebook with a lal topi on. eventually it gets boring and people loose attention.

BUT one thing i agree on is none of the PTM leadership should be allowed to step foot outside of pakistan and be used by foerign agents in other countries.
 
Supporters of pmln change time to time and many people in pti come from pmln unlike ptm which is more than political party and represents only pakthons and one ethnic group and not include any punjabis
tlp aur pmln ka nara halal ptm ka haram na banjo aisey nahi chalay ga same crime same label

No one will vote them. Ofther then some parts of Fata districts. Gone are the days when you can get yourself ellected by using Pashtoon card in KP. Also, i never believed these surveys. You dont know which approach was used in these surveys. Are they collecting data sustematically , or through stratas? Abit the people nit voting for PTM. What other great example can be to prove that then ANP? Unlike the general perception , education system in KP is proving itself . In 5-6 years KO will lead in education that i predict.



No pashtoon is upset. Its just that we all (all ethnicities) want a better Pakistan and are fedup of the day to day issues like loadshedding, health sector issues, lack of schools, hospitals, law and order situation. We all Pakistanis are suffering equally. And we all want it to be improved.



Hahaha. Ary yar apka baba pechy hat gya apny mutaliby se. Btw i was against this name change from start. I deemed it unnecessary. But phir vote b assembly me apky MPA’s ne he dia. Khair, if someone ask me i would like a separate province out of punjab (south Punjab). Move DI khan to Punjan. Remove Chitral from KP and add it to newly formed Gilgit baltistan province.

About the hazarawal. I agree tm logo ky saath zulm ho raha. Tm logo ko alag province mangne kay lye ye aik he baak kaafi hy ky Punjabi tm logo ko Pathan samajty hy or Pathan Punjabi :lol:

Btw i lived in Hazara , for 5 years.
anp still has a votebank that votebank just migrated to ptm
But zero plus zero equals zero even together they cant make government or increase their seats
 
Billionaires hmmm
Yaar @RealNapster 10 crore udhar dey dey next month ki 30 ko wapis kardon ga

O naa kar o. Log sun lety hy. Or tu to banda b NAB ka hy. Office jaa ky baat na kar dena.

Dera bugti,Dera Imail and Dera Ghazi be merged together for a new dera jaat province :D

Janaab. Tusi v kaamaal karty ho. Kahan dera bugti tay kahan DIK DGK ? Ye to phir wo east and west Pakistan wala qisa ho jaana all together.

tlp aur pmln ka nara halal ptm ka haram na banjo aisey nahi chalay ga same crime same label


anp still has a votebank that votebank just migrated to ptm
But zero plus zero equals zero even together they cant make government or increase their seats


About ANP. During 2008 (just before the elections) i remember reading a paid advertisement in newspaper (i read newspaper since i was 9) of ANP earging common people to vote for ANP. The major slogan was (Khpla khawra , Khpal ekhtyaar) apni zameen (soba) pe apna ikhtyaar. That advertisement raised some good points. Like very low royality of electricity , gas to KP, . Despite the major producer of electricity maximum loadshedding was here (thats true for 2008) . And some other pretty good things that was meant to (awake) the pashtoons. The major point which Mian iftikhaar repeated several times in a public gathering in our villige was that “we the pashtoons are in crores, still we never ruled overself and people like NS and Benazir(she was alive in those days) rule us since decades. For a young brain like mine these all were pretty good points to (awake) a person. So i supported the manifesto of ANP. Though i was very young so couldn’t vote. Which turnsout to be good as i saw the major and most brutual bloodshed of pashtoons in that period. I remember a particular incident where there was a blast in Charsada (at ANP jalsa where at that time Asfandyaar wali was on stage) and many were dead. As soon as the bomb blasted, asfandyaar ran for the helicopter, set on it. Went to airport and flew to london. All that haplened in a leriod of 9-10 hours. We used to say a modified (shair) of Rehman baba

Che pa yo daz tar londona pori rasi,
Maa ledali dy raftaar da nationalyaano...

Translation :
Aik damake se jo london tak pohnch jaaty hy, mene deki hy nationalio (ANP walo) ki raftaar. That day, at that particular day i stop supporting ANP and many youngster like me did the same (i assume).

And then came the name changing unnecessary thing.

Such are the incidents that turned ANP into a NO MANS PARTY.

Some pretty old memories there, now... present day..


ANP have no vote bank. Just those who crossed 60-65 (those who have seen the time of Bacha Khan amd then hus Son walli khan) and then those youngsters whose family members are on some party possitions in ANP. About the 2-3 seats of ANP, ary yaar mardan lo lahore bana dia tha sara budget udhr use kia 5 saal. Kuch to uska benefit mily ga na inko. To ba yahe 2-3 seats milti inko mardan sawabi ki. ANP was very strong in my hometown , its major leader mian iftikhaar hussain constituency. And this time he got 200-250 votes from whole town of 1000’s (i guess its 15000+) of voters. Next 5 years amd ANP is no where.
 
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No pashtoon is upset. Its just that we all (all ethnicities) want a better Pakistan and are fedup of the day to day issues like loadshedding, health sector issues, lack of schools, hospitals, law and order situation. We all Pakistanis are suffering equally. And we all want it to be improved.
Hahaha. Ary yar apka baba pechy hat gya apny mutaliby se. Btw i was against this name change from start. I deemed it unnecessary. But phir vote b assembly me apky MPA’s ne he dia. Khair, if someone ask me i would like a separate province out of punjab (south Punjab). Move DI khan to Punjan. Remove Chitral from KP and add it to newly formed Gilgit baltistan province.

About the hazarawal. I agree tm logo ky saath zulm ho raha. Tm logo ko alag province mangne kay lye ye aik he baak kaafi hy ky Punjabi tm logo ko Pathan samajty hy or Pathan Punjabi :lol:

Btw i lived in Hazara , for 5 years.
No one will vote them. Ofther then some parts of Fata districts. Gone are the days when you can get yourself ellected by using Pashtoon card in KP. Also, i never believed these surveys. You dont know which approach was used in these surveys. Are they collecting data sustematically , or through stratas? Abit the people nit voting for PTM. What other great example can be to prove that then ANP? Unlike the general perception , education system in KP is proving itself . In 5-6 years KO will lead in education that i predict.



No pashtoon is upset. Its just that we all (all ethnicities) want a better Pakistan and are fedup of the day to day issues like loadshedding, health sector issues, lack of schools, hospitals, law and order situation. We all Pakistanis are suffering equally. And we all want it to be improved.



Hahaha. Ary yar apka baba pechy hat gya apny mutaliby se. Btw i was against this name change from start. I deemed it unnecessary. But phir vote b assembly me apky MPA’s ne he dia. Khair, if someone ask me i would like a separate province out of punjab (south Punjab). Move DI khan to Punjan. Remove Chitral from KP and add it to newly formed Gilgit baltistan province.

About the hazarawal. I agree tm logo ky saath zulm ho raha. Tm logo ko alag province mangne kay lye ye aik he baak kaafi hy ky Punjabi tm logo ko Pathan samajty hy or Pathan Punjabi :lol:

Btw i lived in Hazara , for 5 years.
Yeah and this was done by your pushtoon police sent from Mardan

https://www.dawn.com/news/848922
 

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