Suddenly, the Chinese Threat to Australia Seems Very Real

[Basel]

You are confusing spying for the military and state secrets with trying to install spies as Members of Parliament in other countries

US have done that in other countries and a Pakistan is also an example of that.

 

[bafxet]

Global realignment in progress.

 

[KungFuLee]

I disagree. I'm old enough to know what's going on. This is exactly what happened 20 years ago with the "all Chinese are spies" Cox report. How did that turn out. People have short memories. All these fear mongering. Right wing talk show calling for the boycott of all things Chinese including American Chinese restaurants. You probably too young to know what happened to Wen ho Lee. Because of all these China phobia, he was arrested with trump up charges in a kangaroo court for spying for China and spend 11 months in solidarity confinement. How did that turn out.

So you disagree that China have an espionage arms? Like the CIA in the US or MI6 in the UK or ASIS in Australia? I mean, if you honestly believe that, then well.....

I don't know who is Lee Wen Ho, but a quick look up in court case file and google the name, it seems like he indeed pled guilty of a charge of misappropriate classified information as a pled bargain, and he was jailed and released. He was awarded 1.6 millions in compensation for unfair treatment during incarceration (including the unusually long solidary confinement, which consistent of violation of his Constitutional Right as Harsh and Unusual Punishment and his name released prior to conviction, which violate his privacy). So in the end, he was neither found guilty nor not guilty of espionage because of the pled deal he have with the DOJ, which he pled guilty on a single charge of misappropriate information.

However, as a law graduate, case law determined that usually when a person pled guilty to a lesser charge is that he did in fact committed those charge but the prosecution did not have enough proof to secure a conviction, simply because if the prosecution have enough evident to convict, they will not offer a pled arrangement, and if the defence have enough evidence to acquit, they won't take the pled bargain, also because US trial court is heavily favoured the defendant.

 

[FedererExpress]

CCP is not just a threat to Australia, they are threat to every freedom loving country in the world. Their repulsive Communist dictatorship run by a genocidal despot is exporting their repression to other countries. We should not have any diplomatic relations with that country. No amount of GDP growth can compensate for our loss of freedoms. We must protect our Western way of life from that dictatorship.

 

[adelphi]

No country is run by angels and International Business has no morals...just interests.

 

[SEAISI]

CCP is not just a threat to Australia, they are threat to every freedom loving country in the world. Their repulsive Communist dictatorship run by a genocidal despot is exporting their repression to other countries. We should not have any diplomatic relations with that country. No amount of GDP growth can compensate for our loss of freedoms. We must protect our Western way of life from that dictatorship.

You need you shut your mouth. Australia is not innocent here and definitely don't have the moral high ground to preach to other. Just ask the Aborigines.

 

[beijingwalker]

We should not have any diplomatic relations with that country.

You are all mouth , aren't you? how about putting the money where your big mouth is?

 

[Georg]

LOL even if you get huge cash injection it requires serious planning and skills to do what China did. Look at your ally India who you helped with every means possible. It is a failed project that is stagnating like a house of cards falling apart.

Just admit it white Nazi boy. China is a miracle.

silly chees roller from the swap lands ... most of the planing was done from extern experts... who u think started large scale car production in China? It was VW... 40years ago.. befor that car production was close to not existant

VW was the first international car producer sign a joint venture with a chinese company founding the Shanghai Volkswagen Motor Company producing VW Santana and Audi 100...within three years it was the largest car producer in china and market leader ...the next company founded was the VW Asia Pacific Ltd. within years it reached 3th place in car sales in china... Today VW dominates the chinese car market, the only car producer able to sell more than 3million vehicles a year there... the next best does not even sell the half of it...
Without the VW investment and the technology tranfer in the 1980´s and 1990´s the chinese car industry would not even be close were it is today

These British white austrailians are illegitimate residents of Austrailia, Austrailia belongs to aboriginals and neighboring south east asians, these British white trash has to go back to where they came from and China should facilitate their return to Britain. So China is doing extremely good job in this case.

according to you get your *** out of Germany and go home...

 

[Globenim]

according to you get your *** out of Germany and go home...

Woooooosh

 

[Georg]

Woooooosh

just gave him his own advice... now call me a NAZI please...

 

[Georg]

You need you shut your mouth. Australia is not innocent here and definitely don't have the moral high ground to preach to other. Just ask the Aborigines.

you are one of the fools here not able to accept that people do not share your silly belive...

 

[DavidsSling]

You need you shut your mouth. Australia is not innocent here and definitely don't have the moral high ground to preach to other. Just ask the Aborigines.

Whataboutism typical comeback from Chinese bootlickers, stooges and lackeys.

 

[Foggy_Bottom]

nvm

 

[Ultima Thule]

commies adopted capitalism, so it doesnt matter if commie was democratic or not, secondly cheap labour. Denying west's role in chinese development is living in denial, chinese used to ride cycles before western investment.

regards

have a some shame they got their Independence after Pakistan and look where we standing and China standing currently

 

[Beast]

the world needs to stop business with commies and force the godfather xi to resign

Go ahead. Australia please stop all business with China.

political instability and establishment hijacking and overtaking govts and international manipulation due to proximity with afghanistan, pakistan was in a much better position than east asia in the 60s, pakistan lost because of bhutto's nationalization policies as well.

as far as india is concerned, it had socialist economy till 1990s, china had developed capitalism in the 70s.

regards

I thought u want to blame all Pakistan problem on China from 60s until now

where am i saying its china's fault, try to comprehend what im saying, japan for instance didn't need any foreign player, they developed their own industry and manufacturing, china got gifted by the west, it takes more to develop oneself independently and less to develop using foreign help. China developed its infrastructure because of mass flow of western help.

regards

Lol.. you are very naive... The Japanese famous Mikasa battleship is made in which countries? Please go Google. Not to mention import industries and assist from England and US initially.

The western shall thank China for lowering their inflation and helps their growth in the 90s and 2000s...

China having all the military sanction and we have a genius claiming it's all the west that helps China? Lol...