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Strategic Chabahar transit deal soon, will bolster trade ties with India: Afghan ambassador

most naitons are against us sanctions on Iran and on some occasions even india also voted against Iran.
For example these are words of former Indian PM rao, we do not need another islamc country with nuke capability in a meeting with the delegation lead by delhi imam moque. this reflects policy. the good relations are busines and commercial.

The business and commercial ties are better as india needs oil and iran provides. india even planned to lessen its dependency on iran's oil jsut sometimes back and buy iraq. the relations are typically commercial.

If there is will it can be done at the earliest instead of years or decade.

Mr. Rao is known for his positive diplomacy on Iran!! India did not join the western chorus on Iranian ‘non-compliance', India was keen that Iran should resolve its differences through negotiations within the IAEA. It was in the very same year India built the chabar port
 
Would they? Cross multiple borders, just to get access to a new cargo route? Seems impractical. Until it's complete, and I've said this about Gwadar as well, we won't know the full economic impact. It's easy to speculate, but hard to predict.
Any way India and China is also aagreed that.Dont know its economic impact.
 
PA will not attack Yemen so not sure why Iran would have any animosity. For entire region to develop people have to trade so hopefully Afghanistan can learn how to make money.
 
See, a parallel needs to be drawn here.

Iran getting chummy with India = No problem and Iran's right.

Pakistan going cozy with Saudi Arabia causes Iran to go all PMS !
Saudi is against Iran
so Pakistan supporting Saudi will mean Pakistan going against Iran
On the contrary,Iran's relationship with India is not Pakistan centric

India maintains good relations with Iran and Israel at the same time and both are good allies....
Pakistan can do the same with KSA and Iran

I don't think Iran will mind Pakistan having good economic relations with Saudi.....they just want Pakistan to remain neutral
 
Saudi is against Iran
so Pakistan supporting Saudi will mean Pakistan going against Iran
On the contrary,Iran's relationship with India is not Pakistan centric

India maintains good relations with Iran and Israel at the same time and both are good allies....
Pakistan can do the same with KSA and Iran

I don't think Iran will mind Pakistan having good economic relations with Saudi.....they just want Pakistan to remain neutral

Wrong.
Saudi is against Iran = India is against Pakistan.

What Iran wants is everything for her own self.
This is why they have had their noses in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, Lebanon.
At the same time, they claim to be at war with Israel, USA, UK etc but they have business with France and other European nations.

Iran is the ultimate personification of hypocrisy and corruption.

PA will not attack Yemen so not sure why Iran would have any animosity. For entire region to develop people have to trade so hopefully Afghanistan can learn how to make money.

Again

It is only Iran's right to make money and move forward, all others shall be subservient to Iran

Because

Ayatooooooooulah says so.
 
Good Good. Afghanistan is vast and blessed with huge natural resources. If the people of Afghanistan unite and restore peace in their country they can turn their country into a major hub of economic activity.

It is an era where people should decide things and build their own future.
Otherwise these governments will not do anything good to them.



Pakistan is fooling china on gwadar and India is fooling Iran on Chahbahar.

Both China and Iran should be active and ask their respective partners to take revolutionary steps and make the deal practical. Otherwise the stories will continue in another decade too.

Both china and Iran have to play smart and to make this all possible and earlier otherwise pak+india will waste time.

Chahbahar is more practical than Gwadar for china too as arabs have filled up the china corridor with trouble makers powered by petro dolalrs.

Both ports should function and good for the region and all non sense of competition among ports should be discarded.
As far as Pakistan is concerned Work on Gawadar port is underway and it will soon be complate. No idea about Chabahar though, Irani members can help here.
And as for Benefit to china. First, Iran choose india to develope chabahar and by that means did not invited china for this purpose so Its Iran's call. And second Pakistan have much deeper ties to china then Iran ,also Pakistan is not Plagued by Uncle sam and its sanctions like iran(Thats not Iran's fault though). China can get trade at more favourable terms through Pakistan as compared to Iran.
Chabahar and Gawadar are two very different things. They have same purpose but different strategic importance and influence for different players.

All i am happy about is both will bring prosperity to our war ravaged neibour
 
As far as Pakistan is concerned Work on Gawadar port is underway and it will soon be complate. No idea about Chabahar though, Irani members can help here.
And as for Benefit to china. First, Iran choose india to develope chabahar and by that means did not invited china for this purpose so Its Iran's call. And second Pakistan have much deeper ties to china then Iran ,also Pakistan is not Plagued by Uncle sam and its sanctions like iran(Thats not Iran's fault though). China can get trade at more favourable terms through Pakistan as compared to Iran.
Chabahar and Gawadar are two very different things. They have same purpose but different strategic importance and influence for different players.

All i am happy about is both will bring prosperity to our war ravaged neibour

Tch Tch .. what you don't understand is Ayatoolah

so long as Khomeni says so .. chaharbar is the greatest port in the world.
 
Another few cents on the topic:

1. The Chabahar port is not a deep water port - that limits it's utility as far as serving as a gateway to a trade corridor.

2. The Delaram-Zaranj runs through areas that are and will continue to be influenced by Pakistan.

3. The route is much longer than the comparable routes to Karachi and Gawdar.

4. If anyone thinks he Iranians will offer more favorable terms than the Pakistanis they are smoking something - the Iranians are tenacious negotiators (the Nuclear wrangling is a prime example).
 
A bit off topic but as far as transit corridor to Arabian sea for Chinese usage is concerned, here is another idea that involves corridors through India.

If India can propose to connect one of 3 existing trading posts with China (Nathu La in Sikkim, Shipki La in Himachal or Lipulekh pass in Uttarakhand) to Vadodara/Kandla on Gujarat coast using one of the Dedicated Freight Corridors (link below for details) that already being completed, it would be a game changer!

There are numerous advantages of trade routes through India (through Kandla port, Gujarat Coast)
- The corridors are almost ready. Only last mile connectivity to Chinese border posts is needed.
- The Chinese have already built significant trade infrastructure on their side of the border (e.g. across Nathu La).
- Kandla already is a major port and provides similar advantages as Gwadar since the distance between Gwadar and Kandla is insignificant - especially for marine freighters.
- Of course, the entire corridor is free of trouble unlike Gwadar and passes through major industrial hubs of India.

I would even propose a new EAST-WEST Freight corridor that connects Kolkata directly to Mumbai that also passes through all mineral/coal rich states of Eastern/Central India! This can further be used to connect Nathu La to Kandla much more directly!

Read more about Dedicated Freight Corridors in India:
Western Dedicated Freight Corridor
Eastern Dedicated Freight Corridor

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