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Strategic Chabahar transit deal soon, will bolster trade ties with India: Afghan ambassador

Why would the Chinese use this facility unless they are doing direct trade with China (meaning buying and selling)? It's like saying the US will start to use Mexican ports. That's a crazy idea and out of touch with reality.

The Chinese want to grow to be a super power, they are creating a "string of pearls" all around India, Europe, Japan and Asia for a reason, that is for future competition and to be able to gain military advantage. That won't mean they won't do trade with India, but to expect them to do it at the cost of Pakistan is a foolish idea. They call Pakistan their Israel, and the US will NEVER do anything at the cost of Israel. Hope this makes sense.

In the Chinese circle of trust, there is ONLY one country and its called Pakistan. Everyone else, has a lower tier. This is the difference between the rest of the world and India. In India, money is an actual God and you'll cut anyone or everyone for it.

The rest of the world, obviously wants money, but keeps its strategic relations intact. There is a reason why the French decided to work with Pakistan on avionics, engines and missiles for its JFT platform (initially,they had said no to Pakistan to show India loyalty, which crapped in their face on Rafale). Similarly, there is ALSO a reason why Russia decided to sell its weapons to Pakistan. Primary reason being, they've seen and understood Indian mentality, money is everything, there is no importance to any relationship, so they are dealing with you in the same manner. Tell me ONE country who'd call out India to defend them or who India would call out for a coalition. The mindset in India doesn't have that, its all about India, not who they cut, pick or throw away. Wrong strategy and it will never work.


Wht impressive delusion with petty internet Knowledge.

You know what , you should know more about diplomacy.
Circle of Trust ?:lol: what circle of trust ??.In geo politics there will be no circle of trust and permanent allies and friends , only permanent interests .A few decades ago you boasted about the circle of trust in US.Now what happened.

About french avionics there is no real source in here except a imaginary private talk thread of Admin in here.

About Russia supplied engine.They will supply you after they deal with us.
Now we are in a process of leasing second nuke sub for 1 billion $.

A single engine exports wont be a matter.
And Russians give importance to the money more than anything else.Indians and Chinese ,perhaps also Iran knows the real behaviour of Russians.


Google it you can see that Chinese are also like for trading in Chabhar.

Like I said for Chinese you are just a tool.A mere tool for dealing with us.
Money is also a great matter to China.
Shall I post the links of Chinese monopoly in Pak power sector ?

About string of pearls.Pearl was tiurned in to stone in SL.In fact except Maldives all are clear for us.Maldives willalso clear in near future.

These are all dreams that india will go to that higher level cooperation with Iran.

India is a saudi ally. both pak+india are saudi run countries. Pak is openly while india is not.

india has more interest in chahbahar than lahore to kabul ? ? ? not at all. they are just dreams.

India has also constructed the backup pipeline to transfer for oil+gas to pak from gurjat to amritsar to ensure continuity to supplies and trade to pak. on only amristsar lahore sector is to be constructed in months when neded.
Really ???
Since when did the Saudi got the capability to influence us?
For us entire Arab ,Iran and Israel are equal .Ours is an independent policy.
 
You do not even make sense.

Infact that all is beyond your approach.

This will make sense for you.

now Iran is under pressure.
there is big alliance against iran.
Arabs are uniting and making alliances
Iran is now under pressure
it will seek colloboaration with india
india too wants to access afghan transi troute
India too have oportunity and will hurry to invest in chahbahar
and new alliance in offing, iran chian russia india

this all is bull shit for bull shit people. :rofl:

these all countries are same. pawns of chess.
 
Cutting away all the India Vs Pak bullshit.
I believe a chabahar port leading transit routes into Afghanistan and Gawadar port also linking Arabian Sea to China and Afghanistan will be very good for region. So that neither Iran nor Pakistan hold monoply over such trade and also Afghanis are not always dependent on one country.

Good luck Afghanistan. Earn as much as you can from rivalry in this region. Constructive competition is always good :)
 
Really ???
Since when did the Saudi got the capability to influence us?
For us entire Arab ,Iran and Israel are equal .Ours is an independent policy.

all countries claim to have independent policy.

all are equal. some openly some other way.

Iran is dealing with all this non-sense. 2 years job if completes in 20 years then problem is there.

and this is not the first time. had india really wanted it would have done it 20 years back.

they all fool people, to each other and to the world.
 
Chinese will also use Chabhar facility.This is business dude.Here Profit is the only God.
Would they? Cross multiple borders, just to get access to a new cargo route? Seems impractical. Until it's complete, and I've said this about Gwadar as well, we won't know the full economic impact. It's easy to speculate, but hard to predict.
 
Cutting away all the India Vs Pak bullshit.
I believe a chabahar port leading transit routes into Afghanistan and Gawadar port also linking Arabian Sea to China and Afghanistan will be very good for region. So that neither Iran nor Pakistan hold monoply over such trade and also Afghanis are not always dependent on one country.

Good luck Afghanistan. Earn as much as you can from rivalry in this region. Constructive competition is always good :)

Good Good. Afghanistan is vast and blessed with huge natural resources. If the people of Afghanistan unite and restore peace in their country they can turn their country into a major hub of economic activity.

It is an era where people should decide things and build their own future.
Otherwise these governments will not do anything good to them.

Would they? Cross multiple borders, just to get access to a new cargo route? Seems impractical. Until it's complete, and I've said this about Gwadar as well, we won't know the full economic impact. It's easy to speculate, but hard to predict.

Pakistan is fooling china on gwadar and India is fooling Iran on Chahbahar.

Both China and Iran should be active and ask their respective partners to take revolutionary steps and make the deal practical. Otherwise the stories will continue in another decade too.

Both china and Iran have to play smart and to make this all possible and earlier otherwise pak+india will waste time.

Chahbahar is more practical than Gwadar for china too as arabs have filled up the china corridor with trouble makers powered by petro dolalrs.

Both ports should function and good for the region and all non sense of competition among ports should be discarded.
 
You are worried!! and Disappointed !!

worried ? :rofl:

these stories are decades old and still we continue to listen such fancy stories.

Only Iran and China can make it practical otherwise pak+india are there to watse time.
 
worried ?

these stories are decades old and still we continue to listen such fancy stories.

Only Iran and China can make it practical otherwise pak+india are there to watse time.

Pakistan May be!! But India aint!! Decades old!! Lol ..
 
:what: ok. time will prove.

What do you think!! India which was involved in building a part of this port way back in the 90's cant modernize it now?? India and Iran share a very good relations and we were some of the few nations who went against the US sanctions on Iran.
 
"$700mn to trillions of dollars" Nothing but dreams and aspirations. Even if Afghanistan was to exploit it's resources to the fullest and sell them to India at the highest price possible, the total trade volume still wouldn't even reach 10 billion, let alone trillions.
That was an exaggeration by the ambassador. He was just trying to prove a point.

But trade between Iran, Afghanistan and India will go up by billions of dollars.



Take for example iron ore....



A more than $1 trillion trove of rare minerals have been revealed under Afghanistan! It may hold 60 million tons of copper, 2.2 billion tons of iron ore, 1.4 million tons of rare earth elements such as lanthanum, cerium and neodymium, and lodes of aluminum, gold, silver, zinc, mercury and lithium. For instance, the Khanneshin carbonatite deposit in Afghanistan's Helmand province is valued at $89 billion!

No wonder there is a scramble to exploit Afghanistan's natural resources with India, China, Iran, Russia, Pakistan, the U.S. and the Central Asian Republics all vying for a slice of the pie.
 
What do you think!! India which was involved in building a part of this port way back in the 90's cant modernize it now?? India and Iran share a very good relations and we were some of the few nations who went against the US sanctions on Iran.

most naitons are against us sanctions on Iran and on some occasions even india also voted against Iran.
For example these are words of former Indian PM rao, we do not need another islamc country with nuke capability in a meeting with the delegation lead by delhi imam moque. this reflects policy. the good relations are busines and commercial.

The business and commercial ties are better as india needs oil and iran provides. india even planned to lessen its dependency on iran's oil jsut sometimes back and buy iraq. the relations are typically commercial.

If there is will it can be done at the earliest instead of years or decade.
 
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