Stranded Pakistanis in Ctg owe PDB Tk 300m as bills

[Nilgiri]

That's not your problem now is it? Ur country or should I say the rogue pakistani province is sinking each year.


Curse, kick them out. We have our own issues. Once we solve those we will consider refugees, enough is enough.

Donovan was onto something with "Waaaaay doooooown below the ocean....wheeeeere I wanna be, she may be!"

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/dhak...nce-in-bangladesh.596081/page-5#post-11102964

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Donovan was onto something with "Waaaaay doooooown below the ocean....wheeeeere I wanna be, she may be!"

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/dhak...nce-in-bangladesh.596081/page-5#post-11102964

Nah, they need to worry about our population growth. We make beautiful babies, that turn into beautiful adults. I dont see why anyone would have a problem with it. I guess they wouldn't understand what beauty is, now would they?

 

[Bilal9]

Oh yes it definitely will, the Bengalis here are notorious for their "breeding capabilities"

Breeding-wise Pakistan takes the cake brother, calling a spade a spade. Calling us to be rabbit breeders is a common fallacy in Pakistan as most uneducated impressions are. Now tell me those few Bengalis in Orangi Bustee busted your fertility stats....

It may not sound great, but it is what it is. If Pakistan Govt. did something about this population time bomb - then outsiders like me didn't have to point it out. It is heading toward a catastrophe (avg. fertility or births-per-woman in Pakistan is 3.8, Bangladesh is 2.1 which is lower than India). Hiding things don't make problems go away. By the way anything below 2 is less than replacement rate, which means population is going down severely. Bangladesh is close to lowest in South Asia as a country of any large population and is barely above replacement rate.

Here is avg. South Asia fertility map, now tell me who is breeding like the proverbial rabbits. Again no one cares about this in Bangladesh, except maybe myself. The more uneducated people are, the more they breed like rabbits, and the poorer they are.

Here is the projected fertility rate of Pakistan (from a Pakistani blogger) from existing stats. Scary.

http://observingliberalpakistan.blogspot.com/2017/09/pakistan-census-2017.html

Here is the fertility rate for India, worst offender is cow belt, yes Biharis as well.

@Hamartia Antidote , @nahtanbob

 

[Nilgiri]

And lets come to how Bangladesh claimed fertility rate does not jive that well with a lot of other stuff, now that we are tagging other people too @Talwar e Pakistan :

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ut-of-poverty-un-report.577698/#post-10793374

(Pakistan: Child marriage is 13.1% and teen pregnancy birth rate is 38.3.)

I mean what happens if we look at Bangladeshis in much more developed 3rd party countries?:

http://iussp2009.princeton.edu/papers/93139

So you are correct about your assertion @Talwar e Pakistan , given you likely have seen what Bangladeshi illegals are like in Pakistan. The thing is they don't have SHW/BAL propaganda to make better paper numbers. In fact illegals is how BD manages to help further reduce its TFR on paper as well.

 

[Black_cats]

And lets come to how Bangladesh claimed fertility rate does not jive that well with a lot of other stuff, now that we are tagging other people too @Talwar e Pakistan :

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ut-of-poverty-un-report.577698/#post-10793374

(Pakistan: Child marriage is 13.1% and teen pregnancy birth rate is 38.3.)

I mean what happens if we look at Bangladeshis in much more developed 3rd party countries?:

http://iussp2009.princeton.edu/papers/93139

So you are correct about your assertion @Talwar e Pakistan , given you likely have seen what Bangladeshi illegals are like in Pakistan. The thing is they don't have SHW/BAL propaganda to make better paper numbers. In fact illegals is how BD manages to help further reduce its TFR on paper as well.

I have debunked this so many times. Boy or girl only 2 child per couple has been promoted since 1970s and this the result of it. There are hardly any third world or developing countries high has promoted nation wide policy like this for close to 5 decades and Bangladesh is seeing the result.

Not necessary every data will correlate with all other sample data. If you have any knowledge on Data Science or Machine Learning you should know that.

 

[Nilgiri]

Not necessary every data will correlate with all other sample data. If you have any knowledge on Data Science or Machine Learning you should know that.

Very high frequency data like massive populations reduce anomalies exponentially.

So I don't buy your explanation/"debunking" (especially given BD people socioeconomic data outside BD), especially when occam's razor shows fault with BBS and BD data gathering/analysis on a whole bunch of topics more generally....exacerbated by the attitude many of you have whenever anyone brings up topic of BD illegals....be it their scale or proclivities.

I'm not saying BD domestic TFR is huge amounts higher, but its definitely not as low as BD govt likes to claim it is. Somewhere in the middle of it all...and we dont really know where exactly.

Of course a BD illegal population/foreign based population would not have the exact same TFR as its domestic source....but the UK data cannot be merely explained by "they're sylhetis" either....especially given UK larger level of development....and given other population groups again correlate much better (and frankly in the right direction to begin with vis a vis development) with their 3rd party presence in developed countries, unlike BD for some reason. Occam's razor again suggests something wrong with the developing countries data (that has used and continues to use propaganda for a number concerning its very raison d'etre) rather than the developed country one.

Anyone is free to agree or disagree.

 

[Bilal9]

I have debunked this so many times. Boy or girl only 2 child per couple has been promoted since 1970s and this the result of it. There are hardly any third world or developing countries high has promoted nation wide policy like this for close to 5 decades and Bangladesh is seeing the result.

Not necessary every data will correlate with all other sample data. If you have any knowledge on Data Science or Machine Learning you should know that.

These people (especially unlikely kucks/sycophants for Pakistanis) don't have any clue about Bangladesh' long struggle for poverty reduction since 1971 (for almost fifty years now). Like you said, this is beginning to bear fruit. No amount of analytical mumbo-jumbo will refute that. The facts are right there on the ground and the targetted vendetta by these people against Bangladesh and trying to misle Pakistanis is not going to bear fruit. A lie is a lie, no matter how nice you wrap it up.

Population reduction was central in the strategy for poverty reduction, which led to Bangladesh govt. encouraging industries like garments which led to,

-----> even unskilled women join the labor force, which in turn
-----------> reduced their financial dependence on men and which, again, in turn (whew!).
------------------> reduced the likelihood of them getting impregnated in unplanned manner (reduction in fertility).

It may have taken five decades and as many billions of dollars, but it worked.

Of course, women having their own income through micro-finance was a factor too. When you don't depend on men for income, you control your own wombs and your own destiny.

 

[Al-zakir]

They need to blend in with local and close this waiting game.

 

[Kompromat]

Should deport Bengalis swarming in Karachi and bring our people home.

 

[Nilgiri]

trying to misle Pakistani

What's there to mislead? The Pakistanis know very well for themselves firsthand what the illegal Bengalis are like procreation wise (and general attitude/demeanour wise broadly) in Karachi etc.

Simply can be correlated back to BD, bypassing the BAL govt that loudly brays numbers like 3 million as well (so proving their fundamental unworthiness on statistics+logic).

@Talwar e Pakistan @CHACHA"G" @Major Sam @doorstar @Tps43 @Desert Fox

Should deport Bengalis swarming in Karachi and bring our people home.

This would be ideal way to go about doing it for sure.

 

[Tps43]

hat's there to mislead? The Pakistanis know very well for themselves firsthand what the illegal Bengalis are like procreation wise (and general attitude/demeanour wise broadly) in Karachi etc

not just karachi but islamabad as well

 

[Nilgiri]

not just karachi but islamabad as well

Hence the "etc" ...I remember other members telling me few other places too across Pakistan.

But of course Bangladesh is land of milk and honey and low population growth blah blah...coz its govt sez so (and you should take everything it says super seriously and honest to god's truth OVER what you personally know about Bangladeshis themselves firsthand)...the old concept dont believe what you see from people literally there in front of you....believe what you hear from people that you have never met and who are far far away

Basically none of their people ever flee and multiply like rabbits in other countries....its all fake news! ...and when even adversaries agree on something about Bangladeshis (Esp illegal kind)...its all "misleading" you see

This paranoid sensitive twit literally set a Bengali ABC test for bluesky to prove he is not a fake account of mine. ....and thinks he is credible on anything after that. Misleading stuff FTW!

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Some 8,000 families of stranded Pakistanis

After so many decades, still this state is not taking responsibility for its Bihari minority. Shameful.

Please don’t involve Pakistan in your internal squabbles. We neither want any more Bangalis (Jamat) or Biharis.

Why complain about Burma rejecting its minorities if BD does the same?

I am sure many of those socalled 'Bengali' in Karachi are not actually Bengali but Bihari.

No, they are Bengalis.

Biharis and Bangalis look totally different, having different facial features, hair growth, complexion.

India and Bangladesh need to stop trying to ditch their unwanted populations on Pakistan.

We are not here to take your citizens which you reject. Be human beings and accept your minorities.

Pakistan can’t take in any more, and we need to reduce our population, not increase it, especially with aliens.

We don’t want anymore chances for MQM type foreign spies to hold hostage our population either.

 

[bluesky]

I have debunked this so many times. Boy or girl only 2 child per couple has been promoted since 1970s and this the result of it. There are hardly any third world or developing countries high has promoted nation wide policy like this for close to 5 decades and Bangladesh is seeing the result.

Not necessary every data will correlate with all other sample data. If you have any knowledge on Data Science or Machine Learning you should know that.

No, the 1970s is not the exact year. Family planning, birth control and less number of children were promoted during the mid-1960s when Ayub Khan was the President of Pakistan. However, because of the difference in the mindsets of two groups of people in the east and west, the latter people did not accept it.

East accepted it and gradually the family planning started to take deep root, its growth of population has now slowed down to as low as 2.1 babies per woman. however, all these efforts were initiated in the mid-1960s.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

No, the 1970s is not the exact year. Family planning, birth control and less number of children were promoted during the mid-1960s when Ayub Khan was the President of Pakistan. However, because of the difference in the mindsets of two groups of people in the east and west, the latter people did not accept it.

East accepted it and gradually the family planning started to take deep root, its growth of population has now slowed down to as low as 2.1 babies per woman. however, all these efforts were initiated in the mid-1960s.

You are wrong. Contraception did not take root in Bangladesh until 1980s. Check out Bangladesh's total fertility rate in 1980. It was more than 6 children. Ayub regime started family planning earliest, but was just hogwash and failed to made any influence either in West or East Pakistan.