Yaar it wouldn't surprise me Sikhs have always served others. Whether it be British, Hindus, and any other group. Many Indians actually helped the British East Indian company and worked with them to defeat and overthrow Mughal rulers.
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Hi
I offer my thanks to everyone for your guidance.
I have another question which wanted to ask since a long time. The tipping point for the uprisng of 1857-58 was the introduction of gun cartridges covered in pig and cow fat (at least this is what they say in the books I have come across). Now as you are aware many of the history books are biased and full of lies. What did the British have in mind when they thought of introducing such cartridges? They were not silly or inept administrators. As a matter of fact their governance and administration were best of their kinds. So, what really went wrong? Is this "cartridge" story correct? Perhaps, as many of the members above have already pointed out that many among the elite had grudge against the British, so it was quite possible that they added fuel to some rumour which was just a rumour at its best. Was any of the cartridges tested in some kind of laboratory? Please let me know your opinion. Thanks.
And ya, Mir Sadiq was another betrayer!
Regards
Haroon
Hi
I offer my thanks to everyone for your guidance.
I have another question which wanted to ask since a long time. The tipping point for the uprisng of 1857-58 was the introduction of gun cartridges covered in pig and cow fat (at least this is what they say in the books I have come across). Now as you are aware many of the history books are biased and full of lies. What did the British have in mind when they thought of introducing such cartridges? They were not silly or inept administrators. As a matter of fact their governance and administration were best of their kinds. So, what really went wrong? Is this "cartridge" story correct? Perhaps, as many of the members above have already pointed out that many among the elite had grudge against the British, so it was quite possible that they added fuel to some rumour which was just a rumour at its best. Was any of the cartridges tested in some kind of laboratory? Please let me know your opinion. Thanks.
And ya, Mir Sadiq was another betrayer!
Regards
Haroon
On the cartridge issue it was a case of poorly thought & executed logistics / ordnance. Having subdued all of N India and having units of the Bengal Native Infantry ( BNI) commanded by officers with an average age of 55- 60 yrs who had been with their units for decades a sense of complacency / disregard set it wherein each felt that their units were insulated form dissent.
Thanks a lot, third eye.
It is still hard for me that the British chose to use cow and pig fat, especially when they had studied the subcontinent culture and had been there for quite some time. The British officers were very experienced and professional. So, I don't think they had started thinking that their units were insulated from any kind of dissent.
Was coating the cartridges with cow and pig economical as compared to some other method? If using cow and pig fats would have saved them thousands of pounds then I think the Brits would have thought of taking the risk by introducing such 'taboo' cartridges. But if there were no economics involved, then it wouldn't surprise me if someone told me it was just a 'false' rumour fuelled by disgruntled princes, nawabs,etc.
Please let me know your opinion. Thanks.

Sikh helped the british no doubt but that was not against the Muslim but actually because of the probians who revolted against the brits. These probian soldiers helped british capture Punjab in1846. Main muslim families of Punjab also helped the british like the Qizalbash of Lahore, Qureshis of Multan ( Our dear PM and Ex FM family) also helped the brits.
1857 kay hamam mai sub nagay hain. Syed Ahmed Khan was the No 1 supporter of Brits.![]()
the britishers even exploited sectarian tensions in Northern Kurram, near Afghan border.....tried to get Turris to fight the Waziris and Mehsuds --who by nature were very difficult to ''tame''
britishers number-1 talent was divide and conquer.......despite the fact that i am a very patriotic Pakistani who believes in 2 nation theory till the day i turn to dust -- i still sometimes ask what would have happened if all people in the region stood firm and fought the britishers like what Algerian did to the French
India has always been divided. In this mordern day, india can be compared to Europe. Both india and europe have many states of their own which have different language, food and cultures. The difference is that european states are independent while indian states are glued together to form a country
Yaar it wouldn't surprise me Sikhs have always served others. Whether it be British, Hindus, and any other group. Many Indians actually helped the British East Indian company and worked with them to defeat and overthrow Mughal rulers.
How predictable.