SHOCKING. The same template is used for US regime change operation in Pakistan as Chile (CIA DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS). Implemented word to word.

[Patriot forever]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1517561360875331585

Each step in Pakistan is also documented.

Must read.

Their known mouthpiece group of presstitutes are shouting and screaming to validate this American regime change operation. ( National endowment fund, SAATH, sellouts the anti-national group). The desperation to the point where people like Hamid Mir are fed propaganda directly by ISI.

 

[Asimzranger]

Now this is some investigative journalism

 

[Jango]

There may or may not have been US involvement in the regime change, but I am quite surprised at the naivety and historical ignorance of a great many people in Pakistan and especially N league supporters.

Just pick up any book about the history of US involvement in world politics and the tale doesn't stop after the 1950's.

And you will never see a blatant announcement or open support by the US anywhere. It is all covert. Seemingly innocent programs, media agency collaborations, dinners, fundraisers, charity programs, relationship building, brick by brick things progress.

If people expect to get a video of Biden openly saying that yeah we did it, wake up from your dream son.

 

[PakSword]

There may or may not have been US involvement in the regime change, but I am quite surprised at the naivety and historical ignorance of a great many people in Pakistan and especially N league supporters.

Just pick up any book about the history of US involvement in world politics and the tale doesn't stop after the 1950's.

And you will never see a blatant announcement or open support by the US anywhere. It is all covert. Seemingly innocent programs, media agency collaborations, dinners, fundraisers, charity programs, relationship building, brick by brick things progress.

If people expect to get a video of Biden openly saying that yeah we did it, wake up from your dream son.

I have spoken to a few PMLN supporters. They say that if there's a conspiracy today, then surely there was a "minus one" conspiracy in 2017 too.

How do you counter that narrative?

 

[Malik Alpha]

There may or may not have been US involvement in the regime change, but I am quite surprised at the naivety and historical ignorance of a great many people in Pakistan and especially N league supporters.

Just pick up any book about the history of US involvement in world politics and the tale doesn't stop after the 1950's.

And you will never see a blatant announcement or open support by the US anywhere. It is all covert. Seemingly innocent programs, media agency collaborations, dinners, fundraisers, charity programs, relationship building, brick by brick things progress.

If people expect to get a video of Biden openly saying that yeah we did it, wake up from your dream son.

I read a book called Rogue State by William Blum 10 years ago. It has all the details about how US was involved in regime change all over the world since 1950s. I wonder why our people are so naive with the fact that US is ever going to ignore the only Muslim nuclear power country.

 

[Ssan]

I have spoken to a few PMLN supporters. They say that if there's a conspiracy today, then surely there was a "minus one" conspiracy in 2017 too.

How do you counter that narrative?

Because Panama leaks was unprecedented and was no conspiracy. It ended the lives of a dozen or so political leaders around the world. The SC stacked with pro-N judges could not justify the complete lack of money trail.

 

[Jango]

I have spoken to a few PMLN supporters. They say that if there's a conspiracy today, then surely there was a "minus one" conspiracy in 2017 too.

How do you counter that narrative?

Can they deny Panama Leaks? Can they deny any of that? Nawaz Sharif went out on corruption charges as a result of the investigations coming out after Panama Leaks.

Did he not say Alhamdulillah hamaray flats hain? Did he not not provide the money trail? Did Maryam not forge a letter?

What charges has IK gone out on?

Moreover, hasn't NS done a deal with the Army this time around? Why the sudden quiet? Why no more tweets?

On an unrelated note, the longer this drags on, and statements like this NSC release and DG ISPR presser come, more the Army and specifically Bajwa gets ridiculed. Couple this with the uptick in terrorism incidents, things are not looking good for the guy. Will he resign? Most probably not. Should he, I am on the fence about that.

 

[Big_bud]

There may or may not have been US involvement in the regime change, but I am quite surprised at the naivety and historical ignorance of a great many people in Pakistan and especially N league supporters.

Just pick up any book about the history of US involvement in world politics and the tale doesn't stop after the 1950's.

And you will never see a blatant announcement or open support by the US anywhere. It is all covert. Seemingly innocent programs, media agency collaborations, dinners, fundraisers, charity programs, relationship building, brick by brick things progress.

If people expect to get a video of Biden openly saying that yeah we did it, wake up from your dream son.

I had to find very hard to find this video again. Here you go, they do talk about it openly. Biden is clearly talking about regime change in Turkey by supporting opposition members of Turkish parliament. Exactly what they did in Pakistan. Unfortunately it didn't take long in Pakistan at all.

 

[PakSword]

Can they deny Panama Leaks? Can they deny any of that? Nawaz Sharif went out on corruption charges as a result of the investigations coming out after Panama Leaks.

Did he not say Alhamdulillah hamaray flats hain? Did he not not provide the money trail? Did Maryam not forge a letter?

What charges has IK gone out on?

Moreover, hasn't NS done a deal with the Army this time around? Why the sudden quiet? Why no more tweets?

On an unrelated note, the longer this drags on, and statements like this NSC release and DG ISPR presser come, more the Army and specifically Bajwa gets ridiculed. Couple this with the uptick in terrorism incidents, things are not looking good for the guy. Will he resign? Most probably not. Should he, I am on the fence about that.

Sir, I only pointed out what they believe... International conspiracy.. and you can't have a healthy debate after that. Many I know say that corruption is not a problem so you can imagine...

And yes, looks like the more government tries to clarify, the more it will find itself deeply drowned in shit.

I have never seen the kind of criticism on army generals in my whole life. When you see common educated class doing that.. which has defended you in thick and thin.. then you must realize that your respect is no more. You have lost your defenders on current era's platforms.

I don't know what are they thinking.

 

[War Thunder]

Now this is some investigative journalism

Arshad Sharif does a lot of that. He has documented entire cases of Hamza and Sehbaz Sharif and his programs on the subject alone are proof enough to hang them without needing any other evidence.
But then again, the establishment is OK with corruption and corrupts. Yeh to hoti rehti hai.

 

[khansaheeb]

Because Panama leaks was unprecedented and was no conspiracy. It ended the lives of a dozen or so political leaders around the world. The SC stacked with pro-N judges could not justify the complete lack of money trail.

They encourage politicians and people to get dirty and then ruin them at the moment of their choosing.

 

[Acetic Acid]

Arshad sharif have done better investigation than our Lumber one.
Which claimed to have found no evidence

 

[EternalMortal]

Right from the horses mouth.

"However, as the CIA’s head of the Directorate of Intelligence, Ray S. Cline once put it, the key to a successful covert regime change is “supplying just the right bit of marginal assistance in the right way at the right time.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/23/the-cia-says-russia-hacked-the-u-s-election-here-are-6-things-to-learn-from-cold-war-attempts-to-change-regimes/

 

[Ssan]

They encourage politicians and people to get dirty and then ruin them at the moment of their choosing.

The point is that the establishment was not responsible for Panama leaks- I am not so sure who has encouraged who to be corrupt or not.

 

[EternalMortal]

They encourage politicians and people to get dirty and then ruin them at the moment of their choosing.

How can you "encourage" someone to be corrupt? Can you "encourage" someone to drink poison?

These people already had the disease of the heart so let's not make excuses for them. No one forced them to get dirty. No one forced them to continue being corrupt. If they didn't want to then they should have stepped out of politics and exposed whoever was trying to force them.