See now, Iranians should've developed the nuke when they could

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

They are going to be attacked anyway.

Terrorist US forces are hurrying to attack Iran within 8 months because after 8 months weapon embargo will end and we can buy fighter jets and all kind of weapons.

 

[Trango Towers]

You never know if they already have.

Maybe a crude device but to get the yield they need ummm????

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

They are going to be attacked anyway.

They won't. Although not publicly acknowledged, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been VERY damaging to america. Their global power has dissipated considerably. The Americans will however try to get the GCC or others to do something against Iran. But with Iran being so powerful and the GCC militaries being so inferior and retarded, nothing will happen.

 

[khansaheeb]

They won't. Although not publicly acknowledged, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been VERY damaging to america. Their global power has dissipated considerably. The Americans will however try to get the GCC or others to do something against Iran. But with Iran being so powerful and the GCC militaries being so inferior and retarded, nothing will happen.

A few nukes will bring Iran to her knees. All options are the on the table.

 

[raptor22]

Sorry but it is not like baking a cake that you can make nuclear weapons. Iran may have intelligent people but they do not currently have the skill set to do this.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

A few nukes will bring Iran to her news. All options are the on the table.

I understand but how likely is that? However you are correct. The Americans are willing to use nukes on ANYONE who isn't a White Western European.

 

[Paul2]

I understand but how likely is that? However you are correct. The Americans are willing to use nukes on ANYONE who isn't a White Western European.

In US defence plan, China will be bombed preemptively, as a deterrent, invariably of us being a party to the conflict or not, just for the fear of us becoming a party to it.

This is a very stupid plan America have. America dug itself in into an unwinnable scenario the moment the number of credible nuclear adversaries exceeded 1.

They can't win, but they will still try.

I believe there is an understanding in the Chinese establishment now that full scale, unrestrained retaliation is the one and only reaction to such scenario invariably of the preemptive strike scale and intent.

If there is 0 chance to dull enemy's commitment to win at any cost, and the enemy is highly confident that he has the "trick" that will grant him victory in the end, your best bet is to make him understand that his "trick" was rendered useless on day one.

I think this is very similar to how one deals with blackmail: if you got hit, don't wait for the enemy to demand ransom, spend all money you have on killing him instead. His "victory" is unrealisable now, and his well prepared plan goes to waste from the start, but this way you get a chance at it on your own.

 

[YeBeWarned]

A destabilize and destroyed Iran will create more Problems for Pakistan, I was telling this to Iranians and got critics for it, Iran should have got Nukes long time ago, or At least make a pact with China to put few Nukes in their Air fields , Like US did with Turkey .. I don't hope for a war between any country the region has seen a lot of destruction and blood .. US could have avoid this , they could have strike some other targets to deliver a message .

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

In US defence plan, China will be bombed preemptively, as a deterrent, invariably of us being a party to the conflict or not, just for the fear of us becoming a party to it.

This is a very stupid plan America have. America dug itself in into an unwinnable scenario the moment the number of credible nuclear adversaries exceeded 1.

They can't win, but they will still try.

I believe there is an understanding in the Chinese establishment now that full scale, unrestrained retaliation is the one and only reaction to such scenario invariably of the preemptive strike scale and intent.

If there is 0 chance to dull enemy's commitment to win at any cost, and the enemy is highly confident that he has the "trick" that will grant him victory in the end, you best bet is to make him understand that his "trick" was rendered useless on day one.

America won't mess with China as China has the ability to wipe America of the face of the planet and they know it.

 

[Paul2]

America won't mess with China as China has the ability to wipe America of the face of the planet and they know it.

No country on the planet has a realistic chance to "wipe" a superpower from the planet, and this wasn't the case even at the peak of cold war.

Even with unrealistic 100% delivery rate, one will possibly need 200-300t of plutonium to tactically defeat a superpower nation in one go. MIRVs will not cut it as all superpowers rely on spacing military assets far enough to deny MIRV advantage. You will need a lot of small boosted tactical warheads which still need as much plutonium as a big staged device to cover so many targets.

 

[Imran Khan]

nukes are for lucky peoples only

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

yes definitly, the Iranian leadership was under the illusion that having just conventional missiles is enough, but what will they do if tomorow we wake up, turn on the TV, and there is breaking news saying "the Pentagon has just declared that 100 nuclear bombs have been dropped on Iran"?, those who think the US would never go that far are sleeping in La La land, Iran has only three options now:-
1-become a province of either China or Russia to gain nuclear protection.
2-aquire nukes & remain an independent state.
3-capitulate to the US & prepare yourself mentaly for your inevitable demise.

If NK can do it in a very short period, then I just don’t see how Iran can’t.

 

[Oublious]

stupid fucking brain-dead spinless turks, China is the one sticking with the Iran, she is still buying Iran's oil even now

you is must stop lying...

 

[Longhorn]

A few nukes will bring Iran to her knees. All options are the on the table.

Do you honestly think the Americans would nuke a non nuclear armed country if the American mainland was not under threat?

 

[VEVAK]

See, there are no way they can make them now under 1.5-2 years.

If Iran was to go to war now, they can't do anything about US resorting to nuke.

My advice, start work while you still can. You can't run industry while American bomber will be zipping in your skies.

Iran can go nuclear in under a year if the leadership truly wanted plus if Iran was to go ahead and start producing and using some of its latest centrifuges like the IR-9 and laser enrichment before they have finished their decade of testing Iran can start building nukes at much smaller better hidden facilities at a much faster pace...
I believe Iran has miscalculated the deterrence value of nuclear weapons and since Iran is already being punished for doing something we aren't even doing we might as well do the deed and build them anyways!!! At this point not building nukes is what makes absolutely no sense....
Although Iran already possess the capability to produce nukes in well under a year that nuclear ambiguity is clearly not enough when fools that don't know any better have their hands on a nuclear trigger