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The fourth prototype Т-50 fifth generation jet fighter (RIA Novosti)


In 2016, the Russian military will start deploying two advanced weapons, the fifth-generation fighter jet PAK FA and the long-range surface-to-air missile systems S-500, chief of the Russian Air Forces said.

Lieutenant General Viktor Bondarev gave an outline of his branch's modernization plans, including the build-up of Arctic infrastructure, in a radio interview with the Russian News Service station on Sunday.

The flight trials of PAK FA (T-50) will soon be over, and in 2016 the Air Force is planning to start commissioning the aircraft into service, the general said.

PAK FA is Russia's first fifth-generation fighter jet built by the Sukhoi Corporation. So far five prototypes have been completed and are undergoing various tests. The fighter is scheduled to eventually replace Sukhoi Su-27s.

“It took part in the [international pilot competition] Aviadarts twice and performed aerobatic flights in pair. I believe the aircraft has a brilliant future,” the general said.



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T-50 fifth-generation multirole fighter (RIA Novosti / Alexander Vilf)



Another new addition to the ranks planned for 2016 is S-500, a state-of-the-art long-range air defense system developed by Almaz Antei, Bondarev said. The producer is finalizing new missiles for the system, which would have advanced homing electronics.

“The missiles will have a build-in intelligence system, which will analyze the aerial and radar environment and take decisions about its altitude, speed and direction of the flight,” the general said.

S-500 is an advanced version of S-400 with dedicated components designed to intercept ballistic missiles at a height of up to 200 km. The system is expected to be able to shut down up to 10 incoming ballistic missiles simultaneously. It also has an extended radar range compared to S-400.



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Anti-aircraft missile system S-400 "Triumph" (RIA Novosti / Grigoriy Sisoev)



Gen. Bondarev confirmed the previously reported schedule for the development of PAK DA, a new Russian strategic bomber. So far little has been made public about the aircraft, which is to replace Tupolev Tu-95s and Tu-160s as the backbone of Russia's aerial nuclear capability. It's rumored to be a sub-sonic flying wing design and may have a new nuclear-capable cruise missile developed for armament.

The general confirmed that the Air Forces expect Tupolev to produce first prototypes of PAK DA by the end of the decade and launch series production in 2021-2022. In the meantime, modernization programs for Tu-95s and Tu-160s are enough to keep the Russian strategic bomber fleet in good shape and sufficient for the renewed long-range flight missions, he said.

Arguably the biggest modernization effort required from the Air Forces is focused on the Arctic infrastructure. Back in Soviet times the military maintained a massive network of airfields and radar stations in the north, but they were neglected in the years following the USSR’s collapse. With rich Arctic resources becoming more accessible and a potential for a conflict in the area growing, the Russian military are rebuilding the Arctic bases.

“We don't see any rivals in the Arctic now, but if a challenge comes, we must be prepared to defend this region. The presence in the Arctic will be increased,” General Bondarev said.

Russia this year reopened the Temp airfield on Kotelny Island north of eastern Siberia, the general announced. There are plans to enlarge the bases in Tiksi, Alykel, Vorkuta and Anadyr. In the future, full-strength divisions and regiments of the Russian Air Force will be deployed in the north.
 
well thats Idiotic wishful hope of you. it is better for u to keep ur mouth shut

How about you contribute to the thread rather than play the typical, Indian undergrad. Here's a start, if you disagree with the year of induction which I posted why don't you tell us all when the FGFA will be inducted into the IAF.
 
How about you contribute to the thread rather than play the typical, Indian undergrad. Here's a start, if you disagree with the year for induction which I posted why don't you tell us all when the FGFA will be inducted into the IAF.

It is the PMF not FGFA and it will inducted into IAF by 2019-2020.
 
..:: India Strategic ::. Air Force: IAF decides on 144 Fifth Generation Fighters

The first squadron or so is expected to be an off the shelf puchase. The early possible induction is said to be in 2017 off the shelf. So Max delay for off the shelf can go to 2019.

The article is dated October 2012.

From your article:

"Notably, a figure of 200-plus of two-seater version for India was considered earlier with possible induction from 2017 with an initial lot from Russia. Development in that time frame however is not happening.

To cut down on the development costs and the timelines, IAF has plans to begin their induction from 2020 onwards, Air Chief Marshal Browne said.

Discussions with Russia are on to sign the first R&D phase, and the first prototype is likely to be delivered to India in 2014 followed by two more in 2017 and 2019. "

It does not say, as you have posited, that the FGFA will be inducted by 2019-2020. It also does not say that there will be early induction of the FGFA by 2017. The IAF considered inducting a batch of two-seater variants by 2017 but decided not to in order to cut down on development costs and timelines.

Any more sources for your claim?

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The fact is that Sukhoi was meant to deliver a prototype FGFA to HAL by 2014 followed by another one in 2017 and one more in 2019 for flight testing and as technological demonstrators, after which the first batch was meant to role out of HAL in 2022. The program has hit snags, and is now considerably delayed. 2014 is about to end and the first prototype has yet to be delivered:


5th-generation fighter plan hits hurdle as Russia hikes cost - The Times of India - July, 2013:

"India's biggest defence project in the making, the critical joint development of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) with Russia, has flown into some rough weather.

Defence ministry sources said the inking of the final design and R&D contract for the stealth fighter has been hit by a huge delay, with Russia also jacking up costs for the futuristic project. "It's very unlikely the FGFA final design contract will be concluded in the 2013-2014 fiscal," said a source.

The plan till last year was that India would begin inducting the FGFA from 2022 onwards, with IAF test pilots getting three prototypes in 2014, 2017 and 2019 for trials at the Hindustan Aeronautics manufacturing facility at Ozar.

"The timeframes will now have to be revised. MoD has established a committee of specialists and finance officials to verify the rise in costs. An internal contract negotiation committee is also in progress," said the source."


IAF chief plans more C-17s, admits FGFA delays - IHS Jane's 360 - October, 2013

"The IAF plans to induct 220-250 FGFAs from 2022 but this deadline now stands postponed, ACM Browne conceded."

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FYI: @Echo_419 @The_magnificent

Also, please refrain from being insulting or derogatory, or in general commenting, on topics where you are lacking in knowledge. It does not reflect well on you.

The past experience has shown that Indian estimates are usually way too optimistic.... :coffee:

HAL, particularly.
 
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The article is dated October 2012.

From your article:

"Notably, a figure of 200-plus of two-seater version for India was considered earlier with possible induction from 2017 with an initial lot from Russia. Development in that time frame however is not happening.

To cut down on the development costs and the timelines, IAF has plans to begin their induction from 2020 onwards, Air Chief Marshal Browne said.

Discussions with Russia are on to sign the first R&D phase, and the first prototype is likely to be delivered to India in 2014 followed by two more in 2017 and 2019. "

It does not say, as you have posited, that the FGFA will be inducted by 2019-2020. It also does not say that there will be early induction of the FGFA by 2017. The IAF considered inducting a batch of two-seater variants by 2017 but decided not to in order to cut down on development costs and timelines.

Any more sources for your claim?

______________

The fact is that Sukhoi was meant to deliver a prototype FGFA to HAL by 2014 followed by another one in 2017 and one more in 2019 for flight testing and as technological demonstrators, after which the first batch was meant to role out of HAL in 2022. The program has hit snags, and is now considerably delayed. 2014 is about to end and the first prototype has yet to be delivered:


5th-generation fighter plan hits hurdle as Russia hikes cost - The Times of India - July, 2013:

"India's biggest defence project in the making, the critical joint development of the fifth-generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) with Russia, has flown into some rough weather.

Defence ministry sources said the inking of the final design and R&D contract for the stealth fighter has been hit by a huge delay, with Russia also jacking up costs for the futuristic project. "It's very unlikely the FGFA final design contract will be concluded in the 2013-2014 fiscal," said a source.

The plan till last year was that India would begin inducting the FGFA from 2022 onwards, with IAF test pilots getting three prototypes in 2014, 2017 and 2019 for trials at the Hindustan Aeronautics manufacturing facility at Ozar.

"The timeframes will now have to be revised. MoD has established a committee of specialists and finance officials to verify the rise in costs. An internal contract negotiation committee is also in progress," said the source."


IAF chief plans more C-17s, admits FGFA delays - IHS Jane's 360 - October, 2013

"The IAF plans to induct 220-250 FGFAs from 2022 but this deadline now stands postponed, ACM Browne conceded."

______________

FYI: @Echo_419 @The_magnificent

Also, please refrain from being insulting or derogatory, or in general commenting, on topics where you are lacking in knowledge. It does not reflect well on you.



HAL, particularly.

The FGFA final design contract which is PMF not FGFA

Sukhoi to sign another contract with India on FGFA | Russia & India Report


If Russian Air Force gets first delivery in 2016.
IAF can get off the shelf delivery by 2017 with delays upto 2019 assuming delays remain constant. ( HAL has little to do with off the shelf procurement )
 
The FGFA final design contract which is PMF not FGFA

Sukhoi to sign another contract with India on FGFA | Russia & India Report


If Russian Air Force gets first delivery in 2016.
IAF can get off the shelf delivery by 2017 with delays upto 2019 assuming delays remain constant. ( HAL has little to do with off the shelf procurement )

What are you talking about? There is no mention of an "off-the-shelf" purchase of the PAK-FA by the IAF. Both your sources talk of the FGFA (or the PMF as you would like to call it) and they all say exactly what I've said. Do you even know what the FGFA is? It's an upgraded variant of the PAK-FA designed to carry Indian missiles and avionics.

Here's a timeline for you to understand the topic better.

Intergovernmental agreement on FGFA project signed in 2007

The 18-month PDC worth $295 million for the FGFA with Russia was inked in December 2010.

Prototype 1 in 2014.

Prototype 2, in 2017.

Protoype 3, in 2019.

Production at HAL to begin in 2020.

No induction by IAF before 2022.

It can't be made any simpler than that. If you feel the foregoing is incorrect you are entitled to your opinion. But if you are going to make a factual observation please present sources for your claims.

Claims such as:

Off-the-shelf purchase of the PAK-FA by the IAF.
Induction of the PAK-FA by the IAF in 2017.
Development of the FGFA(PMF) by HAL before 2019.
Induction of the FGFA(PMF) by the IAF before 2019.
 

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