Russia stuns India, invokes UN resolutions on Kashmir

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[SingHee]

So it was a vague statement, sometime you tell a very long joke and no one laughs

Absolutely no sense in what he's saying, unless he was present at the meeting.

Appears more like he's trying to find a way to prove another one of his theories concerning China and Russia not being aligned, while saying they could in fact be aligned due to Russia not using a veto.

 

[war&peace]

This BS already debunked by Pro-China/Pak author of Russian origin Andrew Korybko today:


It’s A Wrong Interpretation That Russia Supported Pakistan At The UNSC
Written by Andrew Korybko on 2019-08-17

Contrary to what’s being widely reported among some segments of the Alt-Media Community, Russia didn’t support Pakistan at the UNSC meeting about Kashmir, with this wrong interpretation being debunked by an objective reading of the official statements made by Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov and Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN Polyanskiy.

It’s been widely reported among some segments of the Alt-Media Community that Russia supported Pakistan at the UNSC meeting about Kashmir, but this is a wrong interpretation based off of well-intended wishful thinking that also conforms to classic confirmation bias. The narrative being spread is that Russia’s decision not to prevent the meeting itself from taking place implies some tacit form of support for the Pakistani stance that the issue is a multilateral one that requires the UN to resolve. That’s not true at all, however, since an objective reading of the official statements made by Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov and Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN Polyanskiy debunk this notion.

The Russian Foreign Ministry published the following press release on its official website about Lavrov’s recent conversation last week with his Pakistani counterpart (bolded emphasis is the author’s own):

“On August 14, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov had a telephone conversation with Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan Shah Mahmood Qureshi, on Pakistan’s initiative. The two ministers discussed the situation in South Asia amid the deterioration in relations between Pakistan and India after New Delhi decided to change the legal status of the state of Jammu and Kashmir. Sergey Larvov emphasised the need to de-escalate tensions and the absence of an alternative to resolving the differences between Pakistan and India on a bilateral basis by political and diplomatic means. Russia’s representatives in the United Nations also adhere to this consistent position.”

Lavrov, in his capacity as Russia’s top diplomat, very clearly articulated his country’s official position that there is no alternative to resolving the issue on a bilateral basis and that its UN representatives hold the same views.

This was confirmed a few days later by Russia’s Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN Polyanskiy who published the following three tweets reaffirming his country’s position (bolded emphasis is the author’s own):

“#Russia continues to consistently promote normalisation of #India – #Pakistan ties. We hope that existing divergences around #Kasmir will be settled bilaterally by political and diplomatic means only on the basis of Simla Agreement of 1972 and Lahore declaration of 1999, in accordance with UN Charter, relevant UN resolutions and bilateral agreements between India and Pakistan. We are friends and good partners with both #India and #Pakistan and both peoples. We have no hidden agendas. So we will open-heartedly continue to engage with Islamabad and New Delhi in order to help both of them come to terms and have good neighbourly relations #Kashmir”

Not only did he reiterate what Lavrov said about Russia’s belief that the issue must be settled bilaterally, but he also referenced the 1972 Simla Agreement in support of this position.

The USSR, of which Russia is the legal successor state, shared the Indian viewpoint that this agreement forever resulted in the issue being a bilateral one, which is different from the Pakistani position. Nevertheless, the invocation of the Simla Agreement by Polyanskiy was wrongly interpreted through the wishful thinking lense of confirmation bias by some commentators who believed that this signaled support of the Pakistani position by its very mentioning. Advocates of this interpretation also point to the inclusion of “relevant UN resolutions” in his tweet as supposedly returning Russia’s position back to the USSR’s original one back in 1948 when UNSC Resolution 47called for a plebiscite to be held in determining Kashmir’s future political status.

That’s not the case, however, as both Lavrov and Polyanskiy made unambiguously clear when they directly said that the issue must be resolved bilaterally, proving that Russia still adheres to the Soviet Union’s position that the Simla Agreement turned Kashmir into a purely bilateral issue from then on out. As for the claim that Russia tacitly backed Pakistan’s position by virtue of not vetoing the closed door UNSC meeting that was just held, it would be unimaginable for Moscow to disrespect its comprehensive strategic partners in Beijing so brazenly by doing so, which is why Russia let the meeting proceed but used it as yet another opportunity to reaffirm its position on this issue through Polyanskiy’s subsequent tweets.

Due to what transpired last week, there’s no longer any doubt that the Russian and Chinese stances towards Kashmir are totally different and that this will inevitably have an effect on the Alt-Media Community. For now, however, it seems that some are denial about the political divergence between those two on this significant international issue, which partially explains why wishful thinking is still prevalent in wrongly interpreting Russia’s statements as supposedly signaling support for Pakistan’s position on Kashmir. That’s not the case at all, and it’s to the betterment of the Alt-Media Community that its members accept this and understand the reasons behind it in order to return to making realistic assessments of the overall situation and its dynamics.

Desperate Indians clutching at straws...Who is he? More credible than Russia itself? and the Bhindian will disclaim when he posts something that goes against their false narrative.
The article is all whataboutry..

 

[maximuswarrior]

Indians feel betrayed by everyone.

Let's just call a spade a spade. Modi's ill thought move has internationalised Kashmir conflict.

A big bonus for Pakistan is that it can now keep punching Modi in the face.

 

[maverick1977]

No it is NOT!

This is a trap laid by india, but its mastermind is israel. This trap is to lure Pakistan into an all out war. Because Pakistan stands at the cross roads, where it has a government which is cracking down on corruption and focusing on building Pakistan by putting its efforts in education, environment & economy. Because the enemies of Pakistan cannot use the current government to their advantage. Previous governments were more interested in lining their pockets, hence Pakistan was weak lead by corrupt, traitor politicians. Current government is has powerful backers. This is why the indians are shitting its pants, as it will not be able to withstand an educationally and economically powerful Pakistan. Because a economically and acedemically powerful Pakistan is far more deadly and dangerous threat to india, than nukes will ever be.

WAR IS NOT AN OPTION, IT IS END GAME & PEOPLE WITH INTELLECT KNOW THIS!!!

If what you said is true, Pakistan will be attacked soon

 

[Dubious]

Since Russia has said it supports only BILATERAL track, it is a huge win for India.
Rest does not matter.

That is what the world said...So bilateral track includes Pakistan...meaning india cant take unilateral approach as it recently did thus nullifying its annexation of Kashmir!

We hope that existing divergences around #Kasmir will be settled bilaterally by political and diplomatic means only on the basis of Simla Agreement of 1972 and Lahore declaration of 1999, in accordance with UN Charter, relevant UN resolutions and bilateral agreements between India and Pakistan.

that def is no win for india

 

[Nasr]

If what you said is true, Pakistan will be attacked soon

Yes it is true that india will attempt to attack Pakistan in order to capture Azad Jummu Kashmir. This wouldn't mean that the attack would lead to any kind of war, since Pakistan will repel the attack. Pakistan's restraint and defence will gather international recognition. Russia and China will intervene and the United Nations Security Council will issue a clear warning to india.

The war isn't on the battlefield, rather it would be an "Information War" where Pakistan will maneuver with precision. Ensuring that india's lies are exposed, effective analysis of whatever false-flag these zionist-pigs and fascist bjp/rss-dogs orchestrate. This "Information War" is what Pakistan must win, as india's military actions would only garner international condemnation.

 

[beijingwalker]

This is from RT, No one knows which side Russia is on now, Indians see Russia a all weather friend, but I rarely see Russia criticize Pakistan.

Internet cut, thousands arrested as India scraps Kashmir’s autonomy

 

[Haris Ali2140]

This is from RT, No one knows which side Russia is on now, Indians see Russia a all weather friend, but I rarely see Russia criticize Pakistan.

Internet cut, thousands arrested as India scraps Kashmir’s autonomy

Russia and India's relation is a relation of convenience as of now. India requires Russia for their military spares as most of their military is of Russian origin and Russia is going along for money. Besides S-400 there isn't any major acquisition from Russia. Moreover as India is now in US camp so Russia is in now China camp.
Russia takes China's side and china is supporting Pakistan in Kashmir matter.

 

[Nasr]

Russia stuns India, invokes UN resolutions on Kashmir

The "Rum" which our beloved Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam and the Holy Qur'an speaks of, is Russia. And today, Russia has proven that it does not stand idly in the face of outright oppression. When so-called, benevolent Western powers sit on their rear, twiddling their thumbs like a bunch of mindless buffoons. Too affraid to take action against India's open brutality against the people of Kashmir, so as not to risk their profitability in India's 1.3 billion market. Russia stands head above all shoulders, regardless of it's historical relationship with India, and denounces India's oppression in Kashmir.

There is no God but Allah (Subhanahu Wata'aalah) and Muhammad (Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam) is HIS final Prophet.

"You (Muslims) will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah; and you (Muslims) will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant."

Surah Al-Ma'idah [5:82]

And verily, the evidence is revealed, as clear as daylight for those who have eyes with which to see. That Russia (no longer brutally occupied by the Soviet Bolshevik-Jewish savages) is the "Rum" the Holy Qur'an states.

When the Byzantine Empire was criminally annexed, under the guise of Islamic Jihad by the Turks. It's Orthodox Church fled and sought refuge in Russia and Greece. But it is Russia, which became the heartland of Orthodox Christianity. It is the these, the Orthodox Christians, whom the Holy Qur'an speaks of. For they (Orthodox Christians) are NOT an arrogant people. And this is quite evident today, where the free, Orthodox Christian Russia, is the epitome of restraint even when Turkey shot down it's fighter-jet. Not starting a war against Turkey for it's insolence, blinded by it's Western brain-washed mentality. And not even when it's (Russia's) Ambassador to Turkey Andrei Gennadyevich Karlov was assassinated in Ankara, Turkey. Instead, Russia chose to foster good relations with Turkey and the two countries have reached closer in relationship, in genuine style by Russia.

While, when observes the Western World (America, Britain, France, Netherlands, Canada, Australia, Switzerland and Scandinavia). One can see how their war-mongering, colonialist mentality and greed for resources spreads like wild fire around the world. Look at the way Corporate America, American Clandestine Agencies and their Government destroyed Central and Latin America, both economically and militarily. You do not have to look far, to see how reckless and savage the Western World has been by invading and destroying Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Yemen, Chad and Mali. They (the West) are considered by the pathetic scholarship in Islam, as the "Christians" which the Holy Qur'an speaks of. But they are entirely wrong in their perception, blinded by the filth of Zionism, masked by it's veil that is the Western World.

You do not find Orthodox Christians as arrogant. Nor do you find Russia to be arrogant, or having this "exceptionalist mentality." Russia's overwhelming majority population openly and confidently professes to be Christians. They are not mindless buffoons like the Western World, who permit homosexual marriages. Russia bans homosexuality and calls it as God has declared, "Haram." One finds Russia not engaging in Riba, and the proof of this is that Russia the top accumulator of Gold in the world today. Whereas the Western World continues to practice "Riba" (usury) and pile on mountains of irreversible debt.

Arrogance, is rife in the Western World, who demonize Muslims. Arrogance is widespread in the Western World, whom some in the Muslim scholarship erronously refer to as the "Christians" which the Holy Qur'an speaks of. Arrogance is from the Western World, which openly encourages the disrespect and insult of our beloved Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam, through drawing caricatures and vilifying the character of our beloved Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi Wassallam), while hiding behind "free speech" like a bunch of wicked cowards with zero morality in them. They (Western World) do not profess to being Christians, instead they treat Christianity with disdain, contempt and disrespect.

So those who continue to yap all day about Russia being bad, are but fools. Orthodox Christians ARE the friends of Muslims and we shall establish an alliance with them to defeat the Zionist European - Jewish/Christian alliance, in-sha-Allah!