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That's because you don't have any and making comments based on your personal world view and not on facts.I am not here to give you proof of anything, believe what you want to believe. Thanks for the conversation.
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That's because you don't have any and making comments based on your personal world view and not on facts.I am not here to give you proof of anything, believe what you want to believe. Thanks for the conversation.
You know that's not gonna happen. The Rohingyas will just be a hinder to our development unfortunately.I'm glad China is offering them the assistance they're currently getting. They have suffered a lot. Hopefully in the future, they can be reintegrated back into their homeland, Myanmar.
Thank you for the sentiment, we appreciate Chinese Humanitarian help. But I don't believe this has to be permanent arrangement.
If you look at post #20, the British take over of Bengal in 1757 started the trouble. The British were not attentive to our near abroad concerns, so our Arakan vassal was attacked and taken over by Bamar/Burmans in 1785. The British waited 41 years to take over Arakan after winning the 1st Anglo-Burmese war. Then in 1947, not only did the British gift our territory to India on the West (please look at the maps) in the name of Hindu majority, they also gifted Arakan to Myanmar. That really is the root of the problem. Just like the West did their magic with Ottoman empire, they did the same here in this part of the world as well.
Note the British did not partition off Burma for its minorities, instead Burma was returned intact as a whole to the majority group together will all other minority areas.
The problem today is we are under Indian aggression and subjugation and they make sure we cannot perform well economically. If we can become a part of NATO like military alliance with China with mutual defense pact, only then India will back off and loose their strangle hold on Bangladesh. Also this will help us get fair share of water from the international common rivers that flow in from India.
Bangladesh has a relatively small land for its population, but most of the land is fairly fertile. So if we have a network of mega cities, most of the population can become urban, they can live and work in these low cost manufacturing hubs. The small land size also mean the infrastructure will not cost too much. An ideal future scenario for us would be to become like a bigger version of Singapore, but instead of one big city, we will have a network of them in different parts of the country. With this kind of development, we should easily be able to accommodate a few million more people, whether they are Rohingya or economic migrants who moved elsewhere due to lack of opportunity. So the first condition is that we need to end Indian interference with help of China some time in the future and then after that we are fairly sure that the economy will take off quickly as we have no other major problems or obstacles on the way.
It would be extremely difficult for them to integrate into chinese society either, this is not a long term solution, on idea why even the islamic countries like Bangladesh, malaysia, pakistan don't want to accepts the Rohingyas.
It's funny those Muslim members here speaks of their so called Ummah all the time regard to the Uighurs( no connection with them what so ever) issue while hunting their Rohingyas brother (genneticly,culturally bonded with them. those hypocrites are nowhere to be found in this thread.I think according to some posters here, Rohingyas are equivalent to the gypsies of east Europe. Opportunists who do not integrate to society, leech off government money and commit petty crimes.
China should just send them back just like they send back N Korean refugees. We have enough of our people to worry about, we don't need more foreigners.
It would be extremely difficult for them to integrate into chinese society either, this is not a long term solution, on idea why even the islamic countries like Bangladesh, malaysia, pakistan don't want to accepts the Rohingyas.
It would be extremely difficult for them to integrate into chinese society either, this is not a long term solution, on idea why even the islamic countries like Bangladesh, malaysia, pakistan don't want to accepts the Rohingyas.
I think according to some posters here, Rohingyas are equivalent to the gypsies of east Europe. Opportunists who do not integrate to society, leech off government money and commit petty crimes.
China should just send them back just like they send back N Korean refugees. We have enough of our people to worry about, we don't need more foreigners.
Rohingya's are not gypsies, I have given enough historical background in this thread, please look at the material closely before making judgement. They are being killed and expelled from their own land because they are ethnic and religious minority.
The reason British did not partition off Burma for its minorities is very simple,Burma was always ruled by Burmese kings,unlike India was ruled by muslims longer than one thousand years,so why should the muslims ruled Hindustan so long time ruled by Hindus,surely it's not make sense.And because countries like China and Burma never ruled by muslims,so in reality,we are different to Indians in the opinion to the muslims,to us,religion is not a big deal here,and we don't fear Islam(I think many Hindus may see Islam as threat to India),even in the case of Burma,I think the issue is more like a ethnic one,not the religious one,we know it very well the Burmese dislike the Hindu immigrants in Burma neitherThank you for the sentiment, we appreciate Chinese Humanitarian help. But I don't believe this has to be permanent arrangement.
If you look at post #20, the British take over of Bengal in 1757 started the trouble. The British were not attentive to our near abroad concerns, so our Arakan vassal was attacked and taken over by Bamar/Burmans in 1785. The British waited 41 years to take over Arakan after winning the 1st Anglo-Burmese war. Then in 1947, not only did the British gift our territory to India on the West (please look at the maps) in the name of Hindu majority, they also gifted Arakan to Myanmar. That really is the root of the problem. Just like the West did their magic with Ottoman empire, they did the same here in this part of the world as well.
Note the British did not partition off Burma for its minorities, instead Burma was returned intact as a whole to the majority group together will all other minority areas.
The problem today is we are under Indian aggression and subjugation and they make sure we cannot perform well economically. If we can become a part of NATO like military alliance with China with mutual defense pact, only then India will back off and loose their strangle hold on Bangladesh. Also this will help us get fair share of water from the international common rivers that flow in from India.
Bangladesh has a relatively small land for its population, but most of the land is fairly fertile. So if we have a network of mega cities, most of the population can become urban, they can live and work in these low cost manufacturing hubs. The small land size also mean the infrastructure will not cost too much. An ideal future scenario for us would be to become like a bigger version of Singapore, but instead of one big city, we will have a network of them in different parts of the country. With this kind of development, we should easily be able to accommodate a few million more people, whether they are Rohingya or economic migrants who moved elsewhere due to lack of opportunity. So the first condition is that we need to end Indian interference with help of China some time in the future and then after that we are fairly sure that the economy will take off quickly as we have no other major problems or obstacles on the way.
They are considered trouble makers by the majority. The 2012 Rakhine State riots are a series of ongoing conflicts between Rohingya Muslims and ethnic Rakhine in northern Rakhine State, Myanmar. The riots came after weeks of sectarian disputes and have been condemned by most people on both sides of the conflict.
Recently, the Rohingya are fighting Buddhists.
It appears they are unable to integrate.
The reason British did not partition off Burma for its minorities is very simple,Burma was always ruled by Burmese kings,unlike India was ruled by muslims longer than one thousand years,so why should the muslims ruled Hindustan so long time ruled by Hindus,surely it's not make sense.And because countries like China and Burma never ruled by muslims,so in reality,we are different to Indians in the opinion to the muslims,to us,religion is not a big deal here,and we don't fear Islam(I think many Hindus may see Islam as threat to India),even in the case of Burma,I think the issue is more like a ethnic one,not the religious one,we know it very well the Burmese dislike the Hindu immigrants in Burma neither
Rohingya's are not gypsies, I have given enough historical background in this thread, please look at the material closely before making judgement. They are being killed and expelled from their own land because they are ethnic and religious minority.
You are speaking from limited information. As far as I know there was no plan for integrating them, the plan always has been by the Buddhist majority to declare them as illegal migrants from Bangladesh and kick them out. And they are being kicked out for many decades. Its not difficult to instigate riots among illiterate population and blame the victims for the cause.
This is one of the most important point between China and Muslim nations, China was never ruled by Muslims, so you have no reason to fear Islam/Muslims for historical reasons. The same is not true for parts of West, Russia and India.
You are correct about Rohingya issue, initially it was an ethnic issue, but later Indian intelligence and Zionists have intervened and turned this into a Muslim-Buddhist religious issue. Now no Muslims are safe in Myanmar, non-Rohingya Muslims such as those that migrated from Yunan are also regularly killed in riots by Buddhists every few months.
Then I find your politicians are not smart like the Pakistani elites,nearly all the political parties of Pakistan are pro-China.You can see,the Sino-Pak friendship was started by Ali Bhutto,then Zia ul-Haq overthrowed him,Zia didn't say,Oh this friendship was started by Bhutto,let us change it.No,he deeper the friendship.And When PPP in power again,BB didn't say,oh,the Chinese support the junta and dictator,let's end the friendship,no,she is pro-China too.Just like both Musharaff and Nawaz Sharif are pro-China.You can blame the pakistani elites for corruption and many bad things,but they still care their national interests in some extentTo tell the truth I don't know for sure. From 1975 onward during BNP rule we had fairly close relationship with China. Awami League and Ershad's military rule is associated with closeness to India:
Bangladesh–China relations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Currently Awami League led by Hasina has been in power Since 2009 and just legitimized her rule for next 5 years in a sham election in January under gun point with direct Indian help. The opposition boycotted the election and tried to protest, but thousands were killed and even today they are being hounded and killed and most disappear without trace. A common method of disappearance is to tie cement block with corpse and dump them in nearby lake or river, which is plentiful in Bangladesh. Bangladesh is today a large open air prison like Gaza.
One of the top ten businessman (the richest people in the country) made a comment to his relative (a friend of mine) that Bangladesh is today 100% run by RAW (Indian Intelligence). They protect Hasina and ensure any threat is eliminated. You should also take a look at these posts to see how we got to this situation:
Agartala Conspiracy confession, what does it mean for our history | Page 28
The man who broke Pakistan and created Bangladesh: Serazul Alam Khan | Page 14
There are only two other people in this forum who you can get reliable inside story about what is going on in Bangladesh and what our majority people want for their future @M_Saint and @idune . I would request these two posters to tell you whether and how much Bangladesh would like a full military alliance with China and kick out Indian agents from our soil.