Putin mercs surrounded the third Turkish army base in Greater Idlib

[Elvin]

So what? are these mercs going to fire upon the bases? and start a war between TR and RU? I don't think so.

 

[dBSPL]

@CAN_TR @dBSPL @MMM-E @cabatli_53

The Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits is a 1936 agreement that gives Turkey control over the Turkish Straits (the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits) and regulates the transit of naval warships. The Convention gives Turkey full control over the Turkish Straits and guarantees the free passage of civilian vessels in peacetime. It restricts the passage of naval ships not belonging to Black Sea states. The terms of the convention have been the source of controversy over the years, most notably about the Soviet Union's military access to the Mediterranean Sea.

http://sam.baskent.edu.tr/belge/Montreux_ENG.pdf

Ironically, although the Straits Convention was created with the support of the USA due to the rapidly increasing Soviet threat in eastern Europe; nowadays, it restricts the access of the USA to the Black Sea. Thanks to this control over the straits, it is the only region over world seas where the US navy is not active. In this respect, the Straits Convention is the only Sea contract in the world that has the feature of demilitarization on entire sea. Today, this climate of peace property at Blacksea has supported with Blackseafor, which is common and strong initiative lead by TR and Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Naval_Force

For the same reasons NATO's leaving from TR and direct settle to romania as eastern border is just an empty dream. Because no country without a land in the Black Sea can bring warships over a certain tonnage and over a certain period of time.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

The Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits is a 1936 agreement that gives Turkey control over the Turkish Straits (the Bosporus and Dardanelles straits) and regulates the transit of naval warships. The Convention gives Turkey full control over the Turkish Straits and guarantees the free passage of civilian vessels in peacetime. It restricts the passage of naval ships not belonging to Black Sea states. The terms of the convention have been the source of controversy over the years, most notably about the Soviet Union's military access to the Mediterranean Sea.

http://sam.baskent.edu.tr/belge/Montreux_ENG.pdf

Ironically, although the Straits Convention was created with the support of the USA due to the rapidly increasing Soviet threat in eastern Europe; nowadays, it restricts the access of the USA to the Black Sea. Thanks to this control over the straits, it is the only region over world seas where the US navy is not active. In this respect, the Straits Convention is the only Sea contract in the world that has the feature of demilitarization on entire sea. Today, this climate of peace property at Blacksea has support with Blackseafor, which is common and strong initiative lead by TR and Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Naval_Force

For the same reasons NATO's leaving from TR and direct settle to romania as eastern border is just an empty dream. Because no country without a land in the Black Sea can bring warships over a certain tonnage and over a certain period of time.

Sea belongs to wildlife. Sea does not belong to humans. Only way Turkey can stop Russian ships on Bosporous is either:

1. Sink Russian ships on Bosporous

2. Build wall on Bosporous

 

[Messerschmitt]

So what? are these mercs going to fire upon the bases? and start a war between TR and RU? I don't think so.

It is the Syrian Arab Army that besieges the bases, not the Russian Armed Forces, so attacking them won't lead to a war between Turkey and Russia. Also, those aren't actually army bases but Turkish observation points.

 

[Timur]

Sea is international area. Turkey cannot stop anyone from sailing on it.

if there is a will then there is a way.. lets build bridges wich dont allow ships to pass and connect the lands .. a canal build araound can be controlled..

it should be possible to connect 700m

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

It is the Syrian Arab Army that besieges the bases, not the Russian Armed Forces, so attacking them won't lead to a war between Turkey and Russia. Also, those aren't actually army bases but Turkish observation points.

It's a sizable base with dozens of army vehicles. They do let supplies in but the soldiers in there won't leave until Erdogan is out of power which should be around 2040.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Sea does not belong to humans. Turkey can't stop Russians sail on Bosphorous strait.

If theoretically Turkey did stop Russia in the Black Sea, do you seriously think any NATO state would stop them? Clearly NATO wouldn't get into a war with Russia for anybody, let alone Turkey, but they would probably stay silent.

Moot point anyway because Turkey isn't going to close the Bosphorus.

They have other leverages to exert.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

if there is a will then there is a way.. lets build bridges wich dont allow ships to pass and connect the lands .. a canal build araound can be controlled..

it should be possible to connect 700m

There is already a bridge across Bosporous. If they don't allow ships to pass, then Russian ramming ship rams down the bridge and pass.

If theoretically Turkey did stop Russia in the Black Sea, do you seriously think any NATO state would stop them? Clearly NATO wouldn't get into a war with Russia for anybody, let alone Turkey, but they would probably stay silent.

Moot point anyway because Turkey isn't going to close the Bosphorus.

They have other leverages to exert.

No one can close the Bosporous. Humans don't live on water. Humans cannot claim water such as:

1. rivers

2. lakes

3. sea

 

[masterchief_mirza]

There is already a bridge across Bosporous. If they don't allow ships to pass, then Russian ramming ship rams down the bridge and pass.



No one can close the Bosporous. Humans don't live on water. Humans cannot claim water such as:

1. rivers

2. lakes

3. sea

I don't understand your point in the context of nautical territory. I was under the impression that all nation states claimed, counter claimed and even fought over nautical territory.

 

[Timur]

There is already a bridge across Bosporous. If they don't allow ships to pass, then Russian ramming ship rams down the bridge and pass.



No one can close the Bosporous. Humans don't live on water. Humans cannot claim water such as:

1. rivers

2. lakes

3. sea

what a fart use your imagination I am talking about to connect two landmasses just use something massive beton...

ramming a civil bridge with humans is an act of war.. russia would have to deal with whole nato..

 

[Big Tank]

No one:

Pakistani kids at every war thread: PaKiStAn shOuLd jOIn

Kids, things aren't call of duty in real.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I don't understand your point in the context of nautical territory. I was under the impression that all nation states claimed, counter claimed and even fought over nautical territory.

They can claim. But they cannot live nor control.

ramming a civil bridge with humans is an act of war.. russia would have to deal with whole nato..

If Turkey blocks strait with a concrete wall then that mean ramming down the wall.

 

[kingQamaR]

Time to help our brother Turkey strong ally

Egypt, Syria, Iran we can live without, Saudis might need working on but they to need us. Being a pointless useless spectator like us doesn’t further or help our interests. Being a Muslim with higher moral ground is a joke for us. Of not fighting in internal Muslim states nothing Islamic about these above countries except Saudis

 

[American Pakistani]

No one:

Pakistani kids at every war thread: PaKiStAn shOuLd jOIn

Kids, things aren't call of duty in real.

I don't care about any other country except Turkeye and China. Pakistan should stand with only these 2.

 

[Timur]

If Turkey blocks strait with a concrete wall then that mean ramming down the wall

good luck

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

No one:

Pakistani kids at every war thread: PaKiStAn shOuLd jOIn

Kids, things aren't call of duty in real.

The best we can do is cut recruitment to Liwa Zanabiyoun from Pakistan. Then we can work with Afghans to cut Liwa Fatimayoun.

The best way to isolate Assad is to stop Iranian proxies which support him.

Second, directly take action against PKK. Pakistan should help in this endeavor. Our troops could learn from that experience also.