PM Imran calls British counterpart to discuss occupied Kashmir situation

[Shahzaz ud din]

PM Imran calls British counterpart to discuss occupied Kashmir situation

 

[Kabira]

 

[war&peace]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1158762021313290241

 

[waz]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1158762021313290241

George is a living legend!

Anyway I feel my country will play it neutral but lean towards the Kashmiris because of the house arrests, democracy being crushed etc. Both expat communities are very large here so I'm not sure that will matter.

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

George is a living legend!

Anyway I feel my country will play it neutral but lean towards the Kashmiris because of the house arrests, democracy being crushed etc. Both expat communities are very large here so I'm not sure that will matter.

The Indian lobby is much stronger than Pakistani lobby in the UK in my opinion.

Sajid Javid vs Priti Patel in the cabinet meetings? But Sajid is a bit of a sell out in Pakistani issues, so I don't think there's any hope with him.

I like Boris Johnson, but I don't think we can afford to take a big stance on this issue, because of the Indian lobby as you mention but also the need to not anger India to ensure a FTA can be reached in the event of a no deal Brexit.

 

[Turingsage]

I think Pakistan definitely has the edge in terms of influence but Sajid has renounced Islam, married a local lass and has children with English names. Pakistan cannot count on Sajid who I like
Priti is a nutter and Boris is as slippery as a eel

UK response so far

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UK foreign secretary Dominic Raab said he had spoken to his Indian counterpart External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar, and received clarity on India's stand on the announcement earlier this week, which proposes that the state be bifurcated into two Union Territories.

"I've spoken to the Indian Foreign Minister twice since my appointment, and I spoke to him earlier today [Wednesday]," said Raab, who took charge at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) recently under a Boris Johnson led British government.

"We've expressed some of our concerns around the situation and called for calm, but also had a clear readout of the situation from the perspective of the Indian government," he said. In a previous statement, an FCO spokesperson had said that the UK was following developments closely and supported calls for the situation to remain calm.

Britain's parliamentarians remain divided over the issue, with some from the All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on Kashmir expressing grave concern and calling for a moratorium on the decision and others hailing the move for paving the way for economic development in Jammu and Kashmir.

The British Kashmiri community is equally divided, with pro-independence outfits holding protests outside the Indian High Commission in London and others welcoming it as a historic move that would lead to peace and prosperity in the region in the long term.

https://www.news18.com/news/world/b...n-of-article-370-reiterates-calm-2262383.html

 

[waz]

I think Pakistan definitely has the edge in terms of influence but Sajid has renounced Islam, married a local lass and has children with English names. Pakistan cannot count on Sajid who I like
Priti is a nutter and Boris is as slippery as a eel

UK response so far

"
UK foreign secretary Dominic Raab said he had spoken to his Indian counterpart External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar, and received clarity on India's stand on the announcement earlier this week, which proposes that the state be bifurcated into two Union Territories.

"I've spoken to the Indian Foreign Minister twice since my appointment, and I spoke to him earlier today [Wednesday]," said Raab, who took charge at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) recently under a Boris Johnson led British government.

"We've expressed some of our concerns around the situation and called for calm, but also had a clear readout of the situation from the perspective of the Indian government," he said. In a previous statement, an FCO spokesperson had said that the UK was following developments closely and supported calls for the situation to remain calm.

Britain's parliamentarians remain divided over the issue, with some from the All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on Kashmir expressing grave concern and calling for a moratorium on the decision and others hailing the move for paving the way for economic development in Jammu and Kashmir.

The British Kashmiri community is equally divided, with pro-independence outfits holding protests outside the Indian High Commission in London and others welcoming it as a historic move that would lead to peace and prosperity in the region in the long term.

https://www.news18.com/news/world/b...n-of-article-370-reiterates-calm-2262383.html

Sajid Javid has not renounced Islam, that interview was a while back regarding faith and his wife. He describes himself as a non-practicing Muslim.


Mr Javid, a non-practising Muslim

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inister-Sajid-Javid-says-capable-UKs-job.html



I am a proud, British-born Muslim

http://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-s...israel-politician-who-just-may-become-pm/amp/

a non-practicing Muslim

http://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/am...m-home-secretary-not-invited-to-trump-banquet

The Indian lobby is much stronger than Pakistani lobby in the UK in my opinion.

Sajid Javid vs Priti Patel in the cabinet meetings? But Sajid is a bit of a sell out in Pakistani issues, so I don't think there's any hope with him.

I like Boris Johnson, but I don't think we can afford to take a big stance on this issue, because of the Indian lobby as you mention but also the need to not anger India to ensure a FTA can be reached in the event of a no deal Brexit.

Both are strong, the Indians slightly edge it ,and Javid in recent times has made more of an effort to connect to his Pakistani side. He was in the country not so long ago on a visit.

The FTA with India isn’t a big one on the horizon and it’s also connected with immigration which is a touchy subject.
The bottom line is the U.K. will be diplomatic but raise concerns about democracy.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

The British Kashmiri community is equally divided, with pro-independence outfits holding protests outside the Indian High Commission in London and others welcoming it as a historic move that would lead to peace and prosp

Nonsense propaganda. Not a single Kashmiri muslim in UK would welcome this move. The tiny minority pandit diaspora population yes, but not the overwhelming diaspora population of kashmiri Muslims.

The official statement from Raab is completely and embarassingly pro-India. Imagine how much they would be crying about human rights if the iranian mullahs locked up a single pro-freedom campaigner in Iran?

Boris and his goons have clearly sided with India by not even questioning the obvious attack on democracy, the amputation of basic liberties, the arrests of political representatives, information blackouts, the unilateral imposition of occupation and centralised rule, and the suppression of political expression in Kashmir. This is a violent, malignant, brutal and now lethal annexation and complete denial of basic human rights and freedom for innocent human beings. We are a step away from ethnoreligious cleansing. "Calling for calm" is a shocking and embarrassing sell out to Hindustan. Britain is happy to pay minimal lip service to its own democratic heritage by "calling for calm".

I wouldn't expect much from saj Jav either. He has to pay his bills.

 

[Turingsage]

We await Mr Johnson's pronouncement with bated breadth. NOT.

Johnson has been brown-nosing every Indian politician he comes across soap selling a huge trade deal and promising close relations including immigration, student visas, vast fortunes to be made etc
Indian diplomats however have been cold so far

 

[Battle of Waterloo]

Both are strong, the Indians slightly edge it ,and Javid in recent times has made more of an effort to connect to his Pakistani side. He was in the country not so long ago on a visit.

The FTA with India isn’t a big one on the horizon and it’s also connected with immigration which is a touchy subject.
The bottom line is the U.K. will be diplomatic but raise concerns about democracy.

In my opinion, Brits have a better view of Indians than Pakistanis (you probably know the negative stereotypes/associations). People don't mind more Indian/commonwealth immigration as long as it is skilled; whereas whilst in the EU we have no say on the level of skill of immigrants. I.e. Brits would prefer skilled Indians to unskilled Eastern Europeans (for example).

I remember when Modi visited England and met with Cameron and Hindu communities in the UK. He had a very large welcome. I don't think a Pakistani leader gets the same welcome (correct me if I'm wrong).

Ultimately, UK doesn't care about Kashmir and is motivated by economic interests and currently UK has more trade with India so it won't interfere in Kashmir for either side.

PS. I say this is as a Brit with no vested interest with India or Pakistan.
PPS. I think India's move to annex occupied Kashmir was anti-democratic and I fear for the ethnic cleansing that may take place.

 

[Dubious]

PM Imran, British counterpart Boris Johnson discuss serious situation in Occupied Kashmir

August 08, 2019

Prime Minister Imran Khan made a telephonic call to his British counterpart, Boris Johnson and discussed serious situation in Occupied Kashmir following Indian illegal action on Kashmir.

According to a statement issued by 10-Downing Street office, both leaders agreed on the importance of maintaining dialogue.

Imran Khan also congratulated his British counterpart Boris Johnson on assuming office as the UK Prime Minister.

Both leaders also underscored their continued commitment to the bilateral relationship between the UK and Pakistan.

http://www.radio.gov.pk/08-08-2019/...discuss-serious-situation-in-occupied-kashmir