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PM Gilani in Iran for a three day visit

If the Iranian are amenable to a deal in Afghanistan that Pakistan can live with, then the upcoming conferences in which the "neutrality" of Afghanistan ( with US presence) can be declared and the US "new Silk Route" project can said to be operational.
 
If the Iranian are amenable to a deal in Afghanistan that Pakistan can live with, then the upcoming conferences in which the "neutrality" of Afghanistan ( with US presence) can be declared and the US "new Silk Route" project can said to be operational.

Afghanistan is the least important issue in this meeting. The most important issues are going to be energy security so vital for Pakistan and transit routes to Turkey and Europe. The other game Pakistan wants to promote there is to teach west a lesson by showing them that if they do not take Pakistan seriously then Pakistan will reconfigure its foreign policy towards Iran. Infact Iran is going to be more and more a bargaining chip for Pakistan during negotiation with west.
 
Afghanistan is the least important issue in this meeting. The most important issues are going to be energy security so vital for Pakistan and transit routes to Turkey and Europe. The other game Pakistan wants to promote there is to teach west a lesson by showing them that if they do not take Pakistan seriously then Pakistan will reconfigure its foreign policy towards Iran. Infact Iran is going to be more and more a bargaining chip for Pakistan during negotiation with west.

Wow, can you elaborate and perhaps offer more data
 
Wow, can you elaborate and perhaps offer more data

The article says it all. See, during Musharraf era, when he was in NewYork at UN, he met Ahmadinejad in corridors and there Ahmadinejad invited Musharraf to visit Iran, the response from Musharraf was very cold and undiplomatic telling Ahmadinejad that he needs to notify him through proper channels and not in person. Basically he told Ahmadinejad to go and f*** himself. Today situation has changed. West is slowly abandoning Pakistan and becoming more and more pro-India. Pakistan needs to balance this behavior so as you can see, once President is going to Iran and then Prime minister is going there. This all means something diplomatically. Since it is Iran, the meaning is clear. More relations and trade with Iran will make west angry and they will have to come to Pakistan for negotiation which means Pakistan will get its opportunity to put up its demands. The world is about give and take. Simple. It is a market where commodities from oil and gold to loyalties and cultures are traded.
 
lets get some gas and electricity should we?

Gas is already done. Electricity is being negotiated though I think Pakistan should get more than 1000 MW since this 1000 MW is nothing really. Maybe something like 7000 MW would be good enough to fight off the load shedding. In any case since only 1 year is left for PPP, I am not sure these projects will be followed up by the next government.
 
Pakistan, Iran to boost bilateral trade to $10bn

* Two sides agree to expedite gas pipeline and 1,000 MW electricity projects

* Gilani says Pakistan wants very close relations with Iran

* Ahmadinejad says Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan should make coordinated efforts to solve problems of security and development

TEHRAN: Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani and Iranian President Mehmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday agreed to boost trade between the two countries, at $1.2 billion dollars, to 10 billion dollars and promised to spare no effort in this regard.

During the meeting at the President’s House, the two leaders said that an increase in collaboration between the two countries was important for enhancing trade volume compatible with their proximity and potential.

The prime minister and the Iranian president agreed that the Gas Pipeline Project and the import of 1000MW electricity from Iran be expedited as Pakistan was facing an acute energy shortage which was hampering the pace of growth of its economy.

The Iranian president said that Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan should make coordinated efforts to solve the problems of security and development.

The prime minister disclosed that a committee jointly headed by the foreign ministers of the two countries and a security committee headed by the interior ministers of the two countries would deliberate upon issues on a regular basis with a view to make their borders safer and to boost economic activities and trade between the two countries.

Prime Minister Gilani said that there was a paradigm shift in Pakistan’s foreign policy and that it now wanted to maintain close relations with neighbours and that Iran was one of those countries with which it would like to have very close relations.

President Ahmadinejad assured Prime Minister Gilani that Pakistan would be given priority in meeting the trade requirements of Iran and that the goods and services in Pakistan would be given preferential treatment.


Both sides agreed that it was not possible to realise the immense potential of trade between the two countries without effective communication and transport links.

Gilani urged the upgradation of rail, road and air links between the two countries. He highly appreciated the gesture by the Iranian government when it donated $ 100 million for flood victims in Pakistan.

Gilani reaffirmed that Pakistan wanted a sovereign, independent, prosperous and stable Afghanistan and that it supported the process of reconciliation which was Afghan-led and Afghan-owned. The prime minister added that his country was part of the solution and not part of problem. He said that Pakistan had suffered from casualties of 5,000 of its troops and that an equal number of them were disabled, while also suffering from casualties of 35,000 of its civilians, which was the price Pakistan had paid in the fight against terrorism.

President Ahmadinejad said, “We should increase people to people contacts and cultural cooperation, because we have a lot of commonalities among our people.”

The Iranian president urged a new world order based on humanitarian values and justice. “The world is going through transition at a very fast speed and it is imperative that innovative strategy should be evolved and implemented to offset its negative fall-out on our people,” he said.

The Iranian leader agreed to give serious consideration to Pakistan’s demand for opening a consulate at Bandar Abbas to facilitate person-to-person contact. Gilani said that successive visits of the president and prime minister clearly showed the high importance Pakistan attached to its relations with Iran.

The Iranian president agreed to declare Multan and Rasht (Gilan) as sister cities. Also, Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar met her Iranian counterpart Ali Akbar Salehi in Tehran on Sunday and held substantive discussions on bilateral issues and measures to strengthen bilateral economic ties. Foreign Minister Khar is accompanying Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani on his visit to Iran.

Foreign Minister Khar apprised the Iranian foreign minister of the magnitude of the devastation caused by monsoon rains in southern Pakistan and thanked him for Iran’s immediate assistance.
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I hope he's not begging for money into his bank account because I don't expect the Iranian Regime to be fools.
 
I have said it from the start of the thread - the primary focus of this visit is agreement on Afghanistan and from reading the articles posted thus far, it seems that the Iranian have some reservations or that the positions are not exactly in concorde
 
I have said it before and will say it again: American--especially Panetta's--attempt to run its 'do more' foreign policy viz a viz Pakistan through media 'leaks' after the OBL raid has done incalculable damage to the US-Pakistani relations. Years and years of work went down the drain. Pakistanis have always known that American-backed West is Pakistan's most powerful economic reality at the present but there are very few people left after the 'media trial' of Pakistan who are willing continue the status quo.

Iran is the perfect tool in Pakistani hands to play its card right.
 
The editorial below seems to confirm both Meengla and Longbrained -- and trust me, security intelligence sharing is meaningless without Afghanistan in the mix - What does this do for the Wahabi? It will allow the Wahabi princes to decide whether they will seek greater US presence or decide that enmity with Muslims does not pay



EDITORIAL: Foreign policy paradigm shift

Prime Minister (PM) Yousaf Raza Gilani’s visit to Iran signals, as he himself put it in a meeting with Iranian President Mehmoud Ahmedinejad, a paradigm shift in Pakistan’s foreign policy. Pakistan, the PM added, wanted to maintain close relations with its neighbours and Iran was one of the countries with which it would like to have very close relations. The ‘shift’ referred to may be seen as disillusionment with excessive reliance on the US or the west, traditionally Islamabad’s preferred partners, and a ‘return’ to seeking regional cooperation, particularly in the emerging scenario post-withdrawal of the bulk of US and Nato forces from Afghanistan. One should also bear in mind the present atmosphere of mutual mistrust and suspicion between Islamabad and Washington.

The bilateral relationship between Pakistan and Iran is sought to be strengthened in the areas of trade, economic cooperation, security and intelligence sharing. For example, bilateral trade, currently at $ 1.2 billion, of which Pakistan’s exports to Iran are at a paltry $ 200 million, would be boosted to $ 10 billion. The controversial (in US eyes) gas pipeline and import of 1,000 MW electricity from Iran would be expedited. The gas pipeline in particular, which was originally intended to transit Pakistan to India but has been reduced to a bilateral project after New Delhi withdrew, some say on Washington’s urging, has been a thorn in the side of the US because of its open hostility to the regime in Tehran. If the two neighbouring countries go ahead with this project, as now seems increasingly likely, it will not only bolster Pakistan’s energy needs, it will also indicate that Ahmedinejad’s preference for rooting out foreign influence from the region has been taken on board by Pakistan. In the context of trade and economic cooperation, it stands to reason that the two sides will have to improve communication and transport links, in particular road, rail and air traffic. Two committees have been set up for the new enhanced cooperation, jointly chaired by the foreign ministers and interior ministers of the two countries. The latter committee has been charged with the task of satisfying Tehran vis-à-vis security on the Balochistan-Seistan border, implying a closer watch on the Baloch Jundullah group’s activities. This group has been attacking Iranian security forces inside Iranian Balochistan in the past, and is widely considered a shady and controversial element because of its alleged ties to (some say) both al Qaeda and US intelligence.

The PM appreciated Iran’s offer of $ 100 million for flood relief and reports say Iran has already dispatched two planeloads of relief goods. President Ahmedinejad in turn wished for greater people-to-people contacts, cultural cooperation, and promised sympathetic consideration of Pakistan’s request for opening a consulate in Bandar Abbas. Iran, he said, was interested in importing wheat, vegetables, fruit and other items from Pakistan. He argued the need for a new world order in which the historical underdevelopment of countries like Pakistan and Iran could be combated and the policies of the developed world that kept them in such straits resisted.

On arguably the most vexed foreign policy issue for the region, PM Gilani said Pakistan supported an Afghan-led and Afghan-owned reconciliation and peace process. He asserted that Pakistan was part of the solution for Afghanistan’s woes, not part of the problem. It is good that the PM clarified his government’s position on this problematic issue, since it distances the civilian democratic government from the military’s hobbyhorse of ‘strategic depth’. On relations with the US, the PM reiterated Islamabad’s position that unilateral actions of the sort that killed Osama bin Laden on Pakistani soil were unacceptable. If Washington has intelligence, it must share it with the Pakistani authorities and leave it to them to act on it. He also repeated the stricture against drone attacks on Pakistani soil, arguing that they were counter-productive.

The new energy in Pakistan-Iran relations is of a piece with the tectonic power shifts taking place in the region as the Afghan endgame approaches. The countries of the region are waking up to the post-withdrawal scenario, in which they will have to manage the fallout of war-torn Afghanistan’s transition to hopefully peace and rehabilitation. As its two closest neighbours, with historic cultural, religious and other ties, Pakistan and Iran are uniquely placed to assist the transition looming, as well as ensure it takes a healthy and acceptable path for the Afghan people, as much as its neighbours
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I have said it before and will say it again: American--especially Panetta's--attempt to run its 'do more' foreign policy viz a viz Pakistan through media 'leaks' after the OBL raid has done incalculable damage to the US-Pakistani relations. Years and years of work went down the drain. Pakistanis have always known that American-backed West is Pakistan's most powerful economic reality at the present but there are very few people left after the 'media trial' of Pakistan who are willing continue the status quo.

Iran is the perfect tool in Pakistani hands to play its card right.

The key word in your statement is playing it right. Unfortunately there are very little Pakistani statement who know what they are doing. Iran can be a very effective counter-balance in Pakistan's foreign policy with respect to US and west.
 
And then there is this -- paradigm shift or not, Pakistan's fundamental economic problems always provide leverage to friend and foe alike :




US likely to persuade Pakistan to abandon Iran gas pipeline project
By Kamran Yousaf
Published: September 14, 2011


ISLAMABAD: The US is likely to persuade Pakistan to abandon the multi-billion dollar Iran gas pipeline project when senior officials from the two sides open talks today in Islamabad to discuss energy cooperation.

The two-day discussion on energy cooperation under the banner of Pak-US strategic dialogue come in the backdrop of recent high-level exchanges between Islamabad and Tehran in which the two neighbours vowed to expedite gas pipeline project.

US Special Envoy for International Energy Affairs Carlos Pascual, who arrived here on Tuesday, will lead the American delegation while Pakistan would be represented by Water and Power Minister Naveed Qamar.

The talks are expected to be tense after Pakistan, despite US objections, renewed this week its commitment to the Iran gas pipeline project.

Washington has long been pushing Islamabad to stay away from the project warning that the economic sanctions on Iran could affect the pipeline. In recent months, Pakistan has reached out to its neighbours including Iran and China in an effort to offset the possible fallout of its strained ties with the US.

Last week, Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani told the visiting Iranian foreign minister that Pakistan has decided to reach out to its neighbouring countries such as Iran, Afghanistan, India, China, Russia and central Asian states to improve its relations in qualitative terms.

Despite PM Gilani’s remarks, the energy dialogue appears to suggest that Pakistan considers the US help key to meeting its future energy demands. Ahead of the talks, US envoy Pascual along with other officials met Qamar to review cooperation between the two countries in the energy sector.

According to an official statement, Pascual told the minister that the US is keen to address the energy issues and to support the future water and power projects in Pakistan. Some programmes are already underway through USAID and more will be discussed for financial and technical cooperation in the Pak-US Energy Dialogue, he added
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During the two-day discussions, the two sides will discuss the possibility of US financing the Diamer Basha Dam.

The US had already agreed to finance part of the project despite Indian objections, which considered northern areas as disputed territory where the proposed dam is being built.

The US move will allow other international financial institutions to finance the mega project.

Naveed Qamar told the US envoy that Pakistan is looking forward to future projects and “the energy dialogue will help both countries to enhance their cooperation keeping in view the future electricity requirements”.
 

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