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Alright folks,

how many of you know about the Piravom Church case?
Now Now, don't feel shy, do google it, very interesting, extremely interesting, incredibly disturbing.
The duplicity of commies astounding.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...lement-govt-tells-hc/articleshow/65043991.cms

The SC in 2017 gave judgement in favor of Orthodox faction.
It has been 1 year and 6 months since that SC judgement.

You would think commies under Pinnary who are hounding Lord Ayyappa's devotees and deploying tens of thousands of police in Sabarimala, under the guise of implementing SC order would have done the same in this case?
After all under secular govt a Church is exactly the same importance as a temple.

BUT, the same Commies govt under the same CM Pinnary has not only not implemented the SC order but have done ZERO work towards implementing it.

Another distinction to note. The affected parties in Piravom church are Christians, devoted ones, who are waiting for their right to pray.
In Sabarimala, it's the non hindus who filed the case, it's the non Hindus who are trying to enter.

Pinnary in spite of SC order would not let christians to enter a Church
BUT he will use the same SC to bulldoze his way to desecrate Hindu beliefs.

Btw, have you heard the latest "wisdom" from this commies moron Pinnary?
He claims Lord Ayyappa is a secular god, hence he needs to take muslim and christian beliefs into consideration.
Just wondering, has anyone seen Lord Ayyappa, the "secular god" being worshiped in a single Church or mosque anywhere in the world? One single Church or mosque.

What kind of perverted Hindu hating bigots Kerala people elected?
Glad that hindus have realized these douche bags for what they are.
 
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That Kerala Communists are digging their own grave in the last fort is well known..... People are always blaming BJP for intolerance... But what they fail to understand is that their intolerance is the one which increases BJP strength....
 
That Kerala Communists are digging their own grave in the last fort is well known..... People are always blaming BJP for intolerance... But what they fail to understand is that their intolerance is the one which increases BJP strength....

That's one part of their idiocy based on their agenda.

But their duplicity in handling 2 different SC judgement, exposes their Hindu hating Bigotry.
Just wondering on whose orders are they doing it?
 
https://swarajyamag.com/culture/two...ing-hundred-of-acres-even-as-tenants-flourish

Two Temples Near Kanchi In Ruins Despite Owning Hundreds Of Acres, Even As Tenants Flourish
by MR Subramani - Nov 17, 2018, 12:09 pm
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The entrance of the Kasi Viswanathar Temple at Pappanchatram near Kanchipuram
Snapshot

  • Commercial entities have been profiting off temple lands near Kanchi, while the temple, situated in the area, exists in a dilapidated condition.

    Local priests hope that the land gets restored soon and they get the opportunity to take the temple and its surroundings back to its glory days.
On 16 January 2014, a giant wheel at Queensland Amusement Park in suburban Chennai malfunctioned, leaving 18 persons injured. The father of one of the injured persons filed a complaint with the Nazarathpet police station, under whose limits the amusement park falls. The police station issued a community service register. After that, not much was heard of the case, nor did the media follow up.

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The Queensland Amusement Park on the Bengaluru-Chennai National Highway is operating on temple lands taken on lease for agricultural purposes.

Admitting a petition filed by the temple administration, a local court ruled in 2008 that the lessee had violated the lease agreement by indulging in commercial activities. An appeal against the order was dismissed by the court in 2013.

St John’s International Residential School is a kilometre away from Queensland. In the suit in which the amusement park was restrained from carrying out commercial activities, the school authorities were a party and were directed similarly. The problem with the amusement park and the school, which are prospering, is that lands for both were taken on lease for farming in 1991 – when Sriperumbudur was a far cry from being the “Detroit of Asia” that it is today.

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St John’s International Residential School has been asked to vacate the temple lands.

Just off the Bengaluru-Chennai National Highway between Poonamallee and Kanchipuram is Pappanchatram, where Kasi Viswanathar and Sri Venugopala Swamy Temples present a pathetic sight. Both temples are in one complex that doesn’t even have a compound wall. Cattle – cows, calves, and goats – enter the temple freely, and the locals even use the complex to keep their cattle on a leash.

The temple is in a shambles with structures disintegrating. It would be hard to believe that the temple owns 177.7 acres, including the land on which the Queensland Amusement Park and St John’s International Residential School are operating.

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An aerial view of Kasi Viswanathar and Sri Venugopala Swamy Temples.

Doraiswamy Gurukkal, who has been the priest for the Kasi Viswanathar Temple since 1974, says the temple had two halls (mandapams) for marriages and events. Both have been damaged, and today, there are no signs of them being the big halls that they were at one time.

“Sri Chandrasekhara Saraswathi Swamigal of Kanchi Kamakoti Mutt used to stay in the mandap at least 15 days in a year. I have seen him come here in the 1980s. He would take a bath in the temple tank early in the morning and then conduct poojas and daily rituals,” reminisces Gurukkal, even as he shoos away a goat trying to enter the Shiva temple.

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This was once a mandap in which the late Shri Chandrasekhara Sarawasthi Swamigal of Kanchi Kamakoti Mutt used to stay for at least 15 days in a year.

The origin of the temple dates back to the 1800s when a zamindar (landowner) called Venkaiah travelled to Varanasi to find a solution to his personal problems. There, he came across a priest who gave him a Shivalinga the size of a football. The priest asked Venkaiah to build a temple for the Shivalinga at a place where he finds the land gold in colour.

On his way back, Venkaiah found that at Pappanchatram the land was gold in colour. He proceeded to buy some 1,750 acres there. He then built the Shiva temple there along with one for Vishnu. In addition to the temple, a quarters was constructed for temple priests to live, while the two big halls also came up.

Before breathing his last, Venkaiah, in his will, wrote in all the lands of two villages – Irunkottai is the other – he owned for the temple so that poojas could be conducted without any hurdle, and the premises could be maintained properly, says S Kanniappan, an elder in Pappanchatram who now heads a devotee sabha (assembly) to retrieve the temple to its old glory.





Kanniappan and Gurukkal say there are three inscriptions in the temple that vouch for the donation of the lands to both temples. “Things turned bad for the temples when the Madras Estates (Abolition and Conversion into Ryotwari) Act, 1948 – popularly known as the Ryotwari Act – was implemented. The surveyor who came to see these lands wrote all these as orphaned, thus making it lose many acres,” says Kaniappan.

“The irony is that of the 1,500 acres he bought, Venkaiah donated nearly 1,000 acres for the lake that is now Sembarambakkam Lake. The rest were the ones donated to these temples, but even that they are unable to take advantage of,” says Gurukkal.

Two things happened when most of the temple lands were taken away in 1951 after the Ryotwari Act was implemented. “One, some of the temple officials were smart and dedicated and got the lands on which the temples existed registered in the deities’ name. Second, the temple management moved the Assistant Settlement Officer, Tirupattur, in 1956 to retrieve the lost lands, but the petition was dismissed,” says Gurukkal.

A move by the Dasaprakash Group to buy 10 acres of land in the village in 1983 proved to be a blessing in disguise. The group wanted to buy the lands behind the 10 acres it had bought near the St John’s International Residential School. It said it would pay the HR&CE Department and take the land on lease.

The temple management opposed this move and filed a petition in the Madras High Court. In 1993, the High Court ruled that the lands belonged to the temple and struck down the Dasaprakash Group deal. An appeal by the group was dismissed by the Supreme Court. “After that, the Dasaprakash Group sold off the land and left the place,” says Kanniappan.

“Some people now enjoy the temple land in the village. But they can only enjoy as long as they are alive,” says Gurukkal, adding that the problem for the temples is that the HR&CE Department is yet to give the management the registration document for these lands.

“We have been time and again reminding the HR&CE Department. We have pointed to the Queensland and St John’s School case. But no government official is willing to act or do the needful to vacate them. They (the amusement park and the school) are thriving, but look at the temples,” rues Kanniappan.

“The Queensland Amusement Park and St John’s School paid the lease rental the first year to avoid paying taxes. After that, they haven’t paid a single paisa as rent to the temple,” regrets Gurukkal.

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The earth has been dug up for the construction of a temple kitchen. Donations for the construction aren’t forthcoming, though.

“It is almost a month since we offered cooked rice to the deity,” regrets Rajagopal, priest of Sri Venugopala Swamy Temple. A kitchen or madapalli is under construction for the purpose. “We have been seeking donations to construct the madapalli, but they have not been forthcoming,” says Kanniappan.

The problem, according to Gurukkal, is that the villagers don’t want the temple to be restored to its former glory. “They fear that they will all be asked to vacate the temple lands if it is restored. So, they have all tightened their purse strings,” he says.

“It is not that people don’t come to the temple or celebrate festivals in the premises. Pradosham (the day that comes two days ahead of the full moon and new moon) and Vilakku (lamp) pooja sees many devotees turning up,” says Kanniappan, adding that despite all this the temple continues to suffer.

Asked about the income of the temples, Doraiswamy Gurukkal twirls his wrist and palm to say nothing. “That’s why efforts are being made to retrieve the 177.7 acres and ensure the temples will have a decent income for poojas and maintenance,” he says.

Gurukkal himself draws a meagre salary of Rs 300 per month from the HR&CE Department. “I get my salary on an annual basis, and there are five years of arrears,” he claims, adding that he complements his income by being an astrologer when he is not at the temple.

Rajagopal, on the other hand, is lucky, as he is paid Rs 6,000 a month as salary by the devotee sabha. He even gets Rs 1,000 as allowance to travel 30 km one way every day from his home at Thiruvallur to the Sri Venugopala Swamy Temple.

Lack of proper maintenance is telling on the temple. The walls of the temple are giving way, and plants are growing on the walls. The temples also lack proper lighting, and the inside of both temples are dark with poor lighting.

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Lack of funds has affected temple maintenance.

“The temple has an odd luck. People keep fighting over trivial issues for any temple event. But when the day of the event comes, the most bitter opponent would be the first to attend, and all rivalries are buried. We hope this will happen with the restoration of the temples and their lands,” says Gurukkal, hoping the lands on which the Queensland Amusement Park and St John’s International Residential School exist will be restored.
 
Alright folks,

how many of you know about the Piravom Church case?
Now Now, don't feel shy, do google it, very interesting, extremely interesting, incredibly disturbing.
The duplicity of commies astounding.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...lement-govt-tells-hc/articleshow/65043991.cms

The SC in 2017 gave judgement in favor of Orthodox faction.
It has been 1 year and 6 months since that SC judgement.

You would think commies under Pinnary who are hounding Lord Ayyappa's devotees and deploying tens of thousands of police in Sabarimala, under the guise of implementing SC order would have done the same in this case?
After all under secular govt a Church is exactly the same importance as a temple.

BUT, the same Commies govt under the same CM Pinnary has not only not implemented the SC order but have done ZERO work towards implementing it.

Another distinction to note. The affected parties in Piravom church are Christians, devoted ones, who are waiting for their right to pray.
In Sabarimala, it's the non hindus who filed the case, it's the non Hindus who are trying to enter.

Pinnary in spite of SC order would not let christians to enter a Church
BUT he will use the same SC to bulldoze his way to desecrate Hindu beliefs.

Btw, have you heard the latest "wisdom" from this commies moron Pinnary?
He claims Lord Ayyappa is a secular god, hence he needs to take muslim and christian beliefs into consideration.
Just wondering, has anyone seen Lord Ayyappa, the "secular god" being worshiped in a single Church or mosque anywhere in the world? One single Church or mosque.

What kind of perverted Hindu hating bigots Kerala people elected?
Glad that hindus have realized these douche bags for what they are.


With your blind hatred, I guess you even forgot to read the news properly. It's not any SC order as you are claiming, its a High Court order that too a case between two fractions of the same community. How is it even remotely related to Sabarimala to begin with ????? LOL :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
With your blind hatred, I guess you even forgot to read the news properly. It's not any SC order as you are claiming, its a High Court order that too a case between two fractions of the same community. How is it even remotely related to Sabarimala to begin with ????? LOL :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

What is your view on this ?

Xtian attempt to usurp forest land DEFYING HC, Bonacaud Kurishumala https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/thiruvananthapuram/bonacaud-protest-waves-hit-government/articleshow/62389492.cms …

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What is your view on this ?

Xtian attempt to usurp forest land DEFYING HC, Bonacaud Kurishumala https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/thiruvananthapuram/bonacaud-protest-waves-hit-government/articleshow/62389492.cms …

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Please don't generalize it on entire Christian community, just as some people are trying to generalize the Sabaramala unrest (instigated by Sangh parivar) on entire Kerala Hindus.

It was a protest/attempt by a minority group, and the intention was nothing but an unsuccessful attempt of land grab by erecting two holy Cross. Do you think people won't understand that, huh ????

If you can search and read the followup news and the videos from Youtube etc. you will witness how the Kerala government had reacted and how good trashing all those hooligans got. LOL :lol::lol::lol::lol:

 
Please don't generalize it on entire Christian community, just as some people are trying to generalize the Sabaramala unrest (instigated by Sangh parivar) on entire Kerala Hindus.

It was a protest/attempt by a minority group, and the intention was nothing but an unsuccessful attempt of land grab by erecting two holy Cross. Do you think people won't understand that, huh ????

If you can search and read the followup news and the videos from Youtube etc. you will witness how the Kerala government had reacted and how good trashing all those hooligans got. LOL :lol::lol::lol::lol:


When you are shameless enough to generalize the shabarimala unrest and blame it on the "sangh parivar" and divest it from the rest of the Hindus of kerala, then why should I not return the favor ?

This is clearly a protest by the christian church attempting to usurp forest land the same way it has usurped hindu temples in the past.

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This is a tried and tested formula by the xtians of kerala.

In the past, A cross appeared just like that near a Hindu temple and now there is no temple. only a global pilgrim center of Christianity When you blame Kerala Hindus, it would be good if you can understand why they are economically and politically weak.

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When you are shameless enough to generalize the shabarimala unrest and blame it on the "sangh parivar" and divest it from the rest of the Hindus of kerala, then why should I not return the favor ?

This is clearly a protest by the christian church attempting to usurp forest land the same way it has usurped hindu temples in the past.

DsRVemsUwAAyw-e.jpg

DsRVGwpU0AAf7R6.jpg




This is a tried and tested formula by the xtians of kerala.

In the past, A cross appeared just like that near a Hindu temple and now there is no temple. only a global pilgrim center of Christianity When you blame Kerala Hindus, it would be good if you can understand why they are economically and politically weak.

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Because I'm from Kerala. ALUVA to be precise. And I guess you don't have a clue what is actually going on. LOL :lol::lol::lol:
 
You are not the only one Thomas. lol indeed.

Exactly, I'm not the only Malayali who know what is actually happening.

If possible can you please answer the following questions??

1) Who filed the petition requestion the entry of women of all ages into Sabarimala??

2) Even though the case was there for long 12 Years, why dont any party who are protesting now didn't even care to be party or even respondents in this case??

Any answers, huh ?? :p::p::p:
 
Exactly, I'm not the only Malayali who know what is actually happening.

If possible can you please answer the following questions??

1) Who filed the petition requestion the entry of women of all ages into Sabarimala??

2) Even though the case was there for long 12 Years, why dont any party who are protesting now didn't even care to be party or even respondents in this case??

Any answers, huh ?? :p::p::p:

1. There was no such petition. Petion was from S. Mahendaran, Perunnai, Changanacherry, and it was a complaint about first rice-feeding ceremony of the grand-daughter of the former Devaswom Commissioner Smt. Chandrika that took place in shabarimala.

Those opposing were the kerala govt. controlled Devaswom board.

2. Because the SC will not allow any new respondents in an ongoing case.


This is not kerala where lies are fed by communist Media channels to fool the public.

This is the real world and here you will get Stripped and roasted for peddling lies.
 
1. There was no such petition. Petion was from S. Mahendaran, Perunnai, Changanacherry, and it was a complaint about first rice-feeding ceremony of the grand-daughter of the former Devaswom Commissioner Smt. Chandrika that took place in shabarimala.

Those opposing were the kerala govt. controlled Devaswom board.

2. Because the SC will not allow any new respondents in an ongoing case.


This is not kerala where lies are fed by communist Media channels to fool the public.

This is the real world and here you will get Stripped and roasted for peddling lies.

Sorry buddy. Now you are telling a blatant lie, while the proof is for everyone to see.

1) The PIL in this matter was filed in January 2016 by Indian Young Lawyers Association. You are talking about the same issue but a different case filed before the Honorable High Court of Kerala in 1991 which the petitioner lost back then.

Ironically in both the cases the Government of Kerala then as well as now had taken the same stand (until 2016) in respective courts. And i.e;

The State contended that the Temple's priests have the final authority in this matter. The Travancore Devaswom Board has the legal authority to manage the Sabarimala Temple's administration. Article 26 of the Constitution, guarantees a religious denomination the right to manage its own internal religious affairs. Furthermore, the Sabarimala custom was protected by Rule 3(b) of the Kerala Hindu Places of Public Worship (Authorisation of Entry) Rules, 1965 ("Public Worship Rules"). The rule allowed the exclusion of women from public places of worship, if the exclusion was based on 'custom'.

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/163639357/

https://scobserver.clpr.org.in/court-case/sabrimala-temple-entry-case


2) Again either you are ignorant or simply saying a lie. If you don't know apart from the were 4 respondents and all of them joined at different stages of the case.

Travancore Devasom Board
Counsel: Mr Abhishek Manu Singhvi

State of Kerala
Counsel: Mr Jaideep Gupta

Pandalam Royal Family
Counsel: Mr K. Radhakrishnan

Chief Thanthri - Sabarimala Temple
Counsel: Mr V. Giri

Nobody else filed a single application to be respondent to share their views to be rejected by any court to begin with. LOL :lol::lol::lol:

To be honest everyone in Kerala know who is playing petty politics to capatilise on situation.

Now wait and watch how we Keralities, especially the Hindus of Kerala respond to BJP via ballot. LOL :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 
Sorry buddy. Now you are telling a blatant lie, while the proof is for everyone to see.

1) The PIL in this matter was filed in January 2016 by Indian Young Lawyers Association. You are talking about the same issue but a different case filed before the Honorable High Court of Kerala in 1991 which the petitioner lost back then.

Ironically in both the cases the Government of Kerala then as well as now had taken the same stand (until 2016) in respective courts. And i.e;

The State contended that the Temple's priests have the final authority in this matter. The Travancore Devaswom Board has the legal authority to manage the Sabarimala Temple's administration. Article 26 of the Constitution, guarantees a religious denomination the right to manage its own internal religious affairs. Furthermore, the Sabarimala custom was protected by Rule 3(b) of the Kerala Hindu Places of Public Worship (Authorisation of Entry) Rules, 1965 ("Public Worship Rules"). The rule allowed the exclusion of women from public places of worship, if the exclusion was based on 'custom'.

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/163639357/

https://scobserver.clpr.org.in/court-case/sabrimala-temple-entry-case



You asked me who filed the petition and I told you who filed the petition you idiot.

YLA was a later petitioner when the case went up to the SC.

2) Again either you are ignorant or simply saying a lie. If you don't know apart from the were 4 respondents and all of them joined at different stages of the case.

Travancore Devasom Board
Counsel: Mr Abhishek Manu Singhvi

State of Kerala
Counsel: Mr Jaideep Gupta

Pandalam Royal Family
Counsel: Mr K. Radhakrishnan

Chief Thanthri - Sabarimala Temple
Counsel: Mr V. Giri

Nobody else filed a single application to be respondent to share their views to be rejected by any court to begin with. LOL :lol::lol::lol:

To be honest everyone in Kerala know who is playing petty politics to capatilise on situation.

Now wait and watch how we Keralities, especially the Hindus of Kerala respond to BJP via ballot. LOL :omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

All of the respondent are directly responsible for the Sabrimala temple you fool. The petition itself names them as Respondent.

There is no outside Respondent here and neither was there any scope for any outside Respondent as per the SC rules and practices in ongoing cases.

That is why Subramanian swamys case on Ram Mandir was removed from the orginal petitioner and respondents by the SC.


SO your attempt to spread lies FAIL again.

BJP and RSS had no role to Play in the entire matter and your desperate and communally charged attempts to drage them in has only exposed your hate for the Truth and for Hindus.

Shameless communal liar.

Still Laughing ? :sick:
 

You asked me who filed the petition and I told you who filed the petition you idiot.

YLA was a later petitioner when the case went up to the SC.



All of the respondent are directly responsible for the Sabrimala temple you fool. The petition itself names them as Respondent.

There is no outside Respondent here and neither was there any scope for any outside Respondent as per the SC rules and practices in ongoing cases.

That is why Subramanian swamys case on Ram Mandir was removed from the orginal petitioner and respondents by the SC.


SO your attempt to spread lies FAIL again.

BJP and RSS had no role to Play in the entire matter and your desperate and communally charged attempts to drage them in has only exposed your hate for the Truth and for Hindus.

Shameless communal liar.

Still Laughing ? :sick:

BJP's state president himself claimed on record that whatever is happening in Sabarimala was as per their agents. What more proof do you want ?? LOL :bunny::bunny::bunny:

https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...esident-sreedharan-pillai/article25426824.ece

 

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