People watching in Kashgar, Xinjiang , China

[GriffinsRule]

hmmm, so you meet them in California (USA)... very interesting.

Whats so intereting about that. There are Muslims from all origins in southern California.

 

[royalharris]

Chinese hui muslims and most of the ughur muslims leave much better life than most of the other muslims worldwide

But radical islam is just society cancer，Sometimes we must say USA does right thing dealing with them

 

[GriffinsRule]

As I mentioned we are nice to you as a friend, but you like to turn us as your enemy, I have to admit that China can be very nasty to her enemies sometimes.

Haha, well that is pretty pathetic if all it takes is a few questions that unmasks their narrative they want to push that they will become enemies. In fact, if that is all it takes, Pakistan would be better off not being in any strategic alliance with China, given how fragile and thin skinned you seem.

Chinese hui muslims and most of the ughur muslims leave much better life than most of the other muslims worldwide

But radical islam is just society cancer，Sometimes we must say USA does right thing dealing with them

No need to bring radical Islam in here. I am talking about ordinary every day Muslims going to the mosque to pray, like they do around the world. Are Muslims in Xinjiang free to do so and if so, is there proof of that?

 

[beijingwalker]

people should see that we are here trying to explain things in Xinjiang cause we still believe we are friends, we never try to explain anything to India or US, we use different tones when talking to them, but once trust is completely lost, you'll see no more explanations, only counterattacks, no country in this world is aboslutely clean, that's the only sure thing.

Haha, well that is pretty pathetic if all it takes is a few questions that unmasks their narrative they want to push that they will become enemies. In fact, if that is all it takes, Pakistan would be better off not being in any strategic alliance with China, given how fragile and thin skinned you seem.

How about you start a poll and see how you can represent Pakistan? I actually like to see such a result.

 

[GriffinsRule]

people should see that we are here trying to explain things in Xinjiang cause we still believe we are friends, we never try to explain anything to India or US, we use different tones when talking to them, but once trust is completely lost, you'll see no more explanations, only counterattacks, no country in this world is aboslutely clean, that's the only sure thing.

Well as a friend, we are asking how are fellow Muslims in China treated? Trust is earned, and goes both ways. A simple video of Muslims celebrating Eid this year in Xinjiang should not a huge deal or something extraordinary and would go a long way in building even more trust and stronger friendship

people should see that we are here trying to explain things in Xinjiang cause we still believe we are friends, we never try to explain anything to India or US, we use different tones when talking to them, but once trust is completely lost, you'll see no more explanations, only counterattacks, no country in this world is aboslutely clean, that's the only sure thing.


How about you start a poll and see how you can represent Pakistan? I actually like to see such a result.

Maybe I will, but since you started this thread on Xinjing, lets stick to this topic for now.

 

[Numerous]

No need to bring radical Islam in here. I am talking about ordinary every day Muslims going to the mosque to pray, like they do around the world. Are Muslims in Xinjiang free to do so and if so, is there proof of that?

To these people even fasting or praying or wearing a niqab is radical Islam. They'd happily send Imran Khan's wife to a concentration camp.

 

[beijingwalker]

Well as a friend, we are asking how are fellow Muslims in China treated? Trust is earned, and goes both ways. A simple video of Muslims celebrating Eid this year in Xinjiang should not a huge deal or something extraordinary and would go a long way in building even more trust and stronger friendship

We don't need a friendship pointing fingers at our domestic affairs, I think both country's public opinions towards each other are changing.

 

[GriffinsRule]

We don't need a friendship pointing fingers at our domestic affairs, I think both country's public opinions towards each other are changing.

I beg to differ. If you want to public opinions to change towards positive instead of negative, this is exactly the kind of discussion that needs to be had.

Already Chinese are under a negative light in Pakistan given the recent marriage scams that lead to girls being sold into prostitution in China.

Now if they are subjugating Muslims as well where they cant even pray, that is a big issue for Pakistan. If Chinese value our friendship, these are questions they will need to answer.

 

[beijingwalker]

I beg to differ. If you want to public opinions to change towards positive instead of negative, this is exactly the kind of discussion that needs to be had.

Already Chinese are under a negative light in Pakistan given the recent marriage scams that lead to girls being sold into prostitution in China.

Now if they are subjugating Muslims as well where they cant even pray, that is a big issue for Pakistan. If Chinese value our friendship, these are questions they will need to answer.

Pakistan was also put in negative light in Chinese social media by its many sensationalized reports and statements, it always happen both ways. Non interference of domestic affairs is the corner stone of Chinese foreign policy, the bottomline can not be touched, Pakistan can turn China into an enemy , it doesn't hurt China much, that actually can give China a free hand to do more flexible global politics.

 

[ChinaToday]

Pakistan was also put in negative light in Chinese social media by its many sensationalized reports and statements, it always happen both ways. Non interference of domestic affairs is the corner stone of Chinese foreign policy, the bottomline can not be touched, Pakistan can turn China into an enemy , it doesn't hurt China much, that actually can give China a free hand to do more flexible global politics.

you are wasting your time buddy

 

[atan651]

Its not propoganda. I have actually met a couple of Muslims in California from that region who have family members in concentration camps. There have also been a practice of forcibly having a Han Chinese man live in homes of Muslim families as their "Chinese" uncle so ensure religion is not practiced in the home setting. You can call it Western propoganda as much as you like, but just because Pakistan has a strategic alliance with China does not mean they are not committing atrocities against their Muslim populace.

As for posting videos of the market place as some sort of proof of normalcy, that is laughable. Show me a recent video of Muslims praying in a mosque and I will believe all this is "western propaganda".

As a pre-dominantly Muslim country, founded on the basis of religion, we should be cognizant of what is happening to Muslims in one of our closest allied country.

Why don't you just pay a personal visit to Xinjiang and see for yourself?

 

[python-000]

Whats so intereting about that. There are Muslims from all origins in southern California.

yes yes same like malal etc puppet of American agencies Pak-China relationship & Islam...

 

[terry5]

Surviving China’s Uighur camps documentary


https://www.france24.com/en/20190510-reporters-plus-surviving-china-uighur-camps-repression