PDF under Investigation

[Oublious]

Appreciate your answer, but my account was deleted (Bilal99) without even contacting me.

That is a bit harsh. I am assuming any mod (i.e. Nilgiri) can delete any account - correct? Without assigning any reason whatsoever.

That is what happened to my account and is just creepy and wrong.

If you don't violate any rule as a user - and some mod just decides to delete an account, what kind of an outfit is being run?

Is it just do whatever you want as a mod ?? Why even expect people to sign up as members then?

I mean - I respect that you have rules and can enforce them, but there should be rules to add or delete accounts. Who watches the mods?

With this sort of "admin" practices, I doubt you will get any folks from PDF to sign up there.

Without an account - I cannot approach that forum's,

They have reacted to your question, conservation about religion is not allowed and they say they have warned you.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Logged in after more then a year just to say few things about my fellow Pakistanis.

Never in the history where such a large and diverse bunch (220 million) have been held hostage by very few rats who managed to sneak into the power corridors. Pakistan right now is the living example of the pipe piper story, where every one is being led into the abyss by one man. These are not egos of few, this is not the case of personal petty interests , rather THIS IS THE AGENDA, to subdue Pakistan beyond any repair or revival. Why its been allowed to carry on unabetted on the whim of few that can counted on the finger tips, that is the real paradox.

One of the few ones who used to post on pakistani def dotcom donkey years ago. Joined pdf out of rage watching so many trolls from the east having a field day. Got banned few times and last one was when the penny drop and decided to give it a rest for good. PDF has been a great source of information, a one stop shop for the news around the world and back home Pakistan. You will be missed!

May Allah save Pakistan and bring us back our glory that was stolen from us by traitors within, May Allah remove these clutches of the Dajjal system that is squeezing Pakistan and its people.

 

[VCheng]

@Jungibaaz, @Chak Bamu, and @Arsalan were personal friends; @waz and @WAJsal were not merely friends, but, much like the other three, active guardians against very hostile attacks from other members. I am amused to reflect on the fact that these attacks were from both sides of the border; it may be said that perhaps I was an equal opportunity offender. Several of them, and including @VCheng and @RAMPAGE and the one and only @Kaptaan, were friends inside and outside the forum. Let me explain; during my career that spanned thirty five years with long stretches working for the military, I have met a lot of people; these whom I mention above are among those whom I would be delighted to ask home to tea. In some circles, that is a closer relationship than those merely invited to a meal of some other sort.

Now THAT is a tea party I would love attending!

 

[Joe Shearer]

Now THAT is a tea party I would love attending!

Wouldn't that be fun?

 

[VCheng]

Wouldn't that be fun?

Absolutely. Because of my background, I am never going to get an Indian visa, but please do give me a shout out if you ever head out this side of the pond. Tea's on me.

 

[saiyan0321]

Utterly brilliant summary.

I would like to add some words, from a very individual perspective.

My icons were, and are, @niaz Sahib, @fatman17 and Oscar, now, I think, identifying himself as @SQ8 ; though maybe a decade or more younger than I, he was always a person whose opinion had enormous weight for me, almost as much as the other two lofty personalities.

@Jungibaaz, @Chak Bamu, and @Arsalan were personal friends; @waz and @WAJsal were not merely friends, but, much like the other three, active guardians against very hostile attacks from other members. I am amused to reflect on the fact that these attacks were from both sides of the border; it may be said that perhaps I was an equal opportunity offender. Several of them, and including @VCheng and @RAMPAGE and the one and only @Kaptaan, were friends inside and outside the forum. Let me explain; during my career that spanned thirty five years with long stretches working for the military, I have met a lot of people; these whom I mention above are among those whom I would be delighted to ask home to tea. In some circles, that is a closer relationship than those merely invited to a meal of some other sort.

I am not mentioning Indian members, including some very good friends both inside and outside the forum, because it would rob the remarks of Pakistani members about them of their full flavour. They deserve to be applauded in full measure, beyond the words of mere friends. For that reason, I am leaving out all mention of Indian figures, except for one.

What about frenemies? I had to start this to salute @M. Sarmad and @SecularNationalist, who alternately enthrals and enfuriates me; enthrals by his logic, enfuriates by his insistence that I am a Sanghi (he said something rude even today! ). Thanks to Sarmad Sahib's very sharp and scholarly interpretation of his nation's stand on controversial matters, I was forced to sharpen my thinking by a focussed reading of whatever was available, and of some astonishing by-ways that we shall leave out on this re-telling.

In terms of military matters, historically speaking @AUSTERLITZ was in a class all of his own; I was stunned to find after returning after an absence that he had lost his head and used astonishing language and been permanently banned. It was like the earth opening up in front of me. So, too, when @Nilgiri lost his cool and went under the axe. Then there were the almost professional, @Signalian and @Irfan Baloch (I never could figure out where he was coming from), who filled in all the available gaps, but at the head was the serving officer who illuminated so very many obscure spaces, including how one of our Indian war heroes met his death, not, as we had thought, in criminal circumstances, but in battle, and without deliberate malice. It was a feeling of great relief, as that was in the alternate belief an unbearable burden, an unforgivable act of the opposing armed people.

The last fascinating thing I was engaged in was the very beginning of a light-hearted exercise, that brought home several strategic lessons very sharply, lessons that remain relevant. It was a team effort, and my other three Indian colleagues were co-parceners, so to speak.

Now I look forward to seeing many of you again, elsewhere, and also assure you that @Bilal9's annoyance with other places is not beyond amelioration.

This is the cleaned up version; the original canteen song is rather richer, riper

জিগাইতে লাগে নাকি?
কয়েক ঘন্টা হইলো, নাম দিসি।

@jhunghary as well. He would represent the western point of view in a very explanatory manner. I never had the honour of discussing anything but i always read his stuff and it was classy stuff and there were many other posters as well whose names escape me. Alot of them left a big mark in making this forum above par but it will be very hard to recreate those days. There was an air to make genuine effort to research and post topics to further enhance the standard but now it is impossible to bring in that effort and spend time and energy at that level. That level of dedication is hard to bring back. Aeronaut as well. It was a good time. I remember the first time i saw something wrong was when i contacted couple of AJK members about the laws regarding energy production which was to be siphoned to the national grid and they told me that they were well aware of it but didnt want to say anything because they didnt want to bring to highlight such issues that would give ammunition to indian posters and not make things difficult for pakistani members which would bring other problems. I told them that this is their space and such issues should be discussed openly so that solutions could be found but no dice. That was the first time, i noticed things were not right.

Farewell to this place. All things have to end.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Now THAT is a tea party I would love attending!

There was the time when my Dad, old and blind and immobilised by the after-effects of a dangerous cancer that he had fought gallantly, invited a very senior policeman from Assam to come home. That man immediately got on the line to the local Calcutta chief of the SIB, who was from his state cadre, and asked, "The old guy's asked me home. What's the drill?" The very knowledgeable reply came, "What time did he suggest? Before 7, it's Darjeeling tea and tea cake; after 7, it's for drinks. And don't forget to wear a tie!" At that time, the old boy had retired from service 35 years before!

 

[Sugarcane]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1731698154045948146

 

[Maarkhoor]

Now message of shutting PDF gone...... They made another forum and plenty of new users registered there which means it is all drama....topi drama......They are just shedding crocodile tears....instead of making money from one platform now they will made money from two...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1731698154045948146

When they are in wombs of their mothers m@sterbate imagining charsi Imran Khan.....Result is in front of you.

 

[Realtalk108]

Been here on and off since 2010. Man, it's been a while.

Still hoping things will turn out OK. There are millions of posts here from the region and the diaspora from all over the world. Hope mods are taking a copy.

Guess this is my way of saying "I was here."

 

[Olympus81]

Now message of shutting PDF gone...... They made another forum and plenty of new users registered there which means it is all drama....topi drama......They are just shedding crocodile tears....instead of making money from one platform now they will made money from two...


When they are in wombs of their mothers m@sterbate imagining charsi Imran Khan.....Result is in front of you.

You really need to give it a rest man.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Any person or Youtiya abuse armed forces will entitled to get 10X response from us..... @WebMaster and new mod team


Welcome back @Moonlight

 

[RAMPAGE]

Utterly brilliant summary.

I would like to add some words, from a very individual perspective.

My icons were, and are, @niaz Sahib, @fatman17 and Oscar, now, I think, identifying himself as @SQ8 ; though maybe a decade or more younger than I, he was always a person whose opinion had enormous weight for me, almost as much as the other two lofty personalities.

@Jungibaaz, @Chak Bamu, and @Arsalan were personal friends; @waz and @WAJsal were not merely friends, but, much like the other three, active guardians against very hostile attacks from other members. I am amused to reflect on the fact that these attacks were from both sides of the border; it may be said that perhaps I was an equal opportunity offender. Several of them, and including @VCheng and @RAMPAGE and the one and only @Kaptaan, were friends inside and outside the forum. Let me explain; during my career that spanned thirty five years with long stretches working for the military, I have met a lot of people; these whom I mention above are among those whom I would be delighted to ask home to tea. In some circles, that is a closer relationship than those merely invited to a meal of some other sort.

I am not mentioning Indian members, including some very good friends both inside and outside the forum, because it would rob the remarks of Pakistani members about them of their full flavour. They deserve to be applauded in full measure, beyond the words of mere friends. For that reason, I am leaving out all mention of Indian figures, except for one.

What about frenemies? I had to start this to salute @M. Sarmad and @SecularNationalist, who alternately enthrals and enfuriates me; enthrals by his logic, enfuriates by his insistence that I am a Sanghi (he said something rude even today! ). Thanks to Sarmad Sahib's very sharp and scholarly interpretation of his nation's stand on controversial matters, I was forced to sharpen my thinking by a focussed reading of whatever was available, and of some astonishing by-ways that we shall leave out on this re-telling.

In terms of military matters, historically speaking @AUSTERLITZ was in a class all of his own; I was stunned to find after returning after an absence that he had lost his head and used astonishing language and been permanently banned. It was like the earth opening up in front of me. So, too, when @Nilgiri lost his cool and went under the axe. Then there were the almost professional, @Signalian and @Irfan Baloch (I never could figure out where he was coming from), who filled in all the available gaps, but at the head was the serving officer who illuminated so very many obscure spaces, including how one of our Indian war heroes met his death, not, as we had thought, in criminal circumstances, but in battle, and without deliberate malice. It was a feeling of great relief, as that was in the alternate belief an unbearable burden, an unforgivable act of the opposing armed people.

The last fascinating thing I was engaged in was the very beginning of a light-hearted exercise, that brought home several strategic lessons very sharply, lessons that remain relevant. It was a team effort, and my other three Indian colleagues were co-parceners, so to speak.

Now I look forward to seeing many of you again, elsewhere, and also assure you that @Bilal9's annoyance with other places is not beyond amelioration.

This is the cleaned up version; the original canteen song is rather richer, riper

জিগাইতে লাগে নাকি?
কয়েক ঘন্টা হইলো, নাম দিসি।

Not "were friends" but are friends. Dear, dear friends.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Not "were friends" but are friends. Dear, dear friends.

ULP.

Lapsus linguae.

 

[Maarkhoor]

ULP.

Lapsus linguae.

Dear Sir PDF webmaster may have watch full episode of Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahoo thi so be calm nothing would happen....B@lls licker always survive....since he agreed again on TERMS....