Panetta: Someone in Pakistan knew about bin Laden's hideout

[VCheng]

yes i got it US blackmail them as they doing it since 60 years . and they will knee down soon i am sure .

Perhaps none of that will be needed at all, and bilateral relations will improve?

 

[Imran Khan]

Perhaps none of that will be needed at all, and bilateral relations will improve?

vcheng sir these are not bilateral relations between two sovereign nations these are some thing else which i hate to write .

 

[VCheng]

vcheng sir these are not bilateral relations between two sovereign nations these are some thing else which i hate to write .

We need to discuss matters politely at all times.

Truth be told, the imbalance in this important relationship has been too asked for the past several years, and some corrective actions could be very positive for the future, if taken with proper thought.

 

[Imran Khan]

We need to discuss matters politely at all times.

Truth be told, the imbalance in this important relationship has been too asked for the past several years, and some corrective actions could be very positive for the future, if taken with proper thought.

and that corrective actions are? operation in wazersatan more CIA agents allowed in pakistan bring back spy trainers ? give free hands to amercan in pakistan let them do whatever they like?let CIA make local spy wings ?open nato supply ?

 

[VCheng]

and that corrective actions are? operation in wazersatan more CIA agents allowed in pakistan bring back spy trainers ? give free hands to amercan in pakistan let them do whatever they like?let CIA make local spy wings ?open nato supply ?

Perhaps none of those?

I am sure that PNSC will take all these under consideration as they decide on the next steps from their side.

 

[Imran Khan]

Perhaps none of those?

I am sure that PNSC will take all these under consideration as they decide on the next steps from their side.

i dont thing something else USA needed from pakistan to do this time .

 

[AbhimanyuShrivastav]

Give me a general process of what should have been done, say in India - if you are not even aware of any general protocols, then what exactly are you basing your argument on?

Well, mostly on common sense.. but let me give an example. Now please remember that this example is from a POV of a commoner and not someone in the know, so please dont nitpick on the specifics now. When Obama visited India and stayed in the Sheraton, I know for a fact that a colony bordering the hotel which is a gated community for high officials of Indian railways was revetted by the IB (since I have relatives, both in Indian Railways living in that colony and IB). Every single House's latest utility bills were crossed checked against the name on the original allotment letter of the bungalow given by the Indian railways. Where ever there was not an exact match, a police verification was sought. Now I am sure (but am not privy to) that any probables thrown up by these 2 steps (which were mostly transparent to the people being vetted) were scrutinized by more intrusive methods. Now the approaches may be different in the 2 countries, but I guess you know what I mean.

Without outlining the kind of 'sterilization protocol' you think the PA should have followed, we cannot progress further in this discussion.

Something on the lines of above would have worked well. BTW, it seems you have taken an offense to the word Sterilization. Trust me, I have not used it with any derogatory intent.

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but in the end the world's most wanted man who wanted others to loose their lives in his cause was eliminated so we accept that the end was in our favour too.

But sir, the treatment of the only Pakistani who was a part of this operation, by Pakistan govt, does not match up to your statement in bold above

 

[Irfan Baloch]

he cleared yesterday that he mean to say OBL network not GOP so matter is over now whats remain to debate on this news item ?

A lot

for some people, they can talk this subject to death but still wont be satisfied.
do note that Panetta has timed these statements with due planning. someone of authority doesnt just choose to give interviews on matters like these. like V Cheng pointed out, its all part of international politics and relations with Pakistan. the US Ebassy was at hand to clarify the very next day.

@AbhimanyuShrivastav
I respect your comment
but the Doctor betrayed his profession. and damned that already WHO, Polio, TB vacine phobic area for times to come. he could have been anyone else. This is our biggest loss. Already his name is mentioned to dismiss the vaccination drives. We have had a lot of health workers and doctors (men and women) killed by Taliban. now they got the licence to kill. Secondly that doctor was the citizen of Pakistan.

he should have contacted the security agencies instead of working for a foreign entity. What he did was out of pure greed nothing else. It had nothing to do with capturing the mastermind of Al Qaeda. It could have been anyone for all he cared. He betrayed tens of thousands of Pakistanis who died and thousands of security personal protecting this country and fighting this war. at one time ISI has suffered the most in these areas when its agents and informers were captured and executed while hunting for Taliban and Al Qaeda.

He is paying for his greed, his betrayal to the country and its people and last but not lest his profession. I am sorry but I cant stress anymore on that and will request people not to engage with me on this point because I feel very strongly about it.
I am only satisfied with the outcome with misgivings about the methods of the USA. Maybe you don’t know but doctors and teachers in these part of Pakistan have given their lives in the face of the death threats and here is a man who sold himself for some dollars.



@Night_Raven
in isolation your statement is valid. but as it happens, Pakistan is borders with a country that is yet again experiencing another Super power's invasion and the people of that country are yet again resisting it. the opportunist and zealots and sympathisers are bound to be attracted to the place just like your own setup in the name of cultural centres in the remote locations along Pak Afghan border. Pakistan and Afghanistan share the Pashton ethnicity and we cant stop the flow of people between the two countries. The determined ones will find the way no matter how many check posts are erected.

People crossed the most heavily guarded Berlin walls and still cross the worlds most militarized border between North and South Kora, the cannons, the machine guns and the landmines never stand in the way of the most determined. So yea, we also get the unwanted guests too. But we will hardly call our places a safe heaven. The number of terrorists killed or captured via drone strikes or ISI / SSG operations hardly make Pakistan a safe heaven. Maybe you want to go up close to KSM or Al Zakawi and ask him nicely “do you think Pakistan is a safe heaven”? I think you can guess what kind of reaction you will get.


I hope you got the context