Pakistan's Procrastination over Yemen Crisis

[Sinnerman108]

if Stop finding reasons for bullying and invading others, no one will budge or concern.
Interesting is to see monarch lovers giving reasons to invade other nations.
they can't succeed every time and also the can't fail every time. so they should keep try and try again.

Better send pak troops to yemen, but it should be voluntarily and not mandatory orders for ordinary soldiers who have no concern other than their own country and took oath for its protection. Rest we know well that our shia brothers in yemen will take care of the monarch followers.

btw, ayatollahs are good and better than monarchs. I wish I were an Ayatollah.

I am not equipped to reply to your posts, my hands are bound by logic.

Please do not quote me again, and request the same from other shias also.

 

[B@KH]

I am not equipped to reply to your posts, my hands are bound by logic.

Please do not quote me again, and request the same from other shias also.

Logic ?

The Logic of Might is Right is not the correct path. It cannot not work nowadays.

you can see with this Logic the whole world is prosperous and there is peace and glory everywhere specially my country Pak.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

A certain minority keeps accusing others of "wahabi" influence. Whereas they themselves moan and loathe everything from their "shia" a.k.a Political Ayatoolah view point.

There is plurality in Sunnis in Pakistan. The Barelvis are close to Sufism and folk Islam while Deobandis are more theology oriented. The Shia dislike to hatred of first three Khalifas is bone of contention that brings tension in Muharram. The sectarian issues were manageable until 1979 after the invasion of Afghanistan and Islamic revolution in Iran turned into violent armed clashes. The arming of Afghan Mujahideen brought weapons and money with Saudi support for Sunni militant outfits that attacked Shias. The ISi, Pakistan Army and Pakistani government ignored this terrorism. Saudi Wahhabi regime has encouraged Talibans to attack Shia Hazaras in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Still Saudi fund attacks Shias in Pakistan and on Iranian border guards on Pak-Iran border.

 

[Sinnerman108]

There is plurality in Sunnis in Pakistan. The Barelvis are close to Sufism and folk Islam while Deobandis are more theology oriented. The Shia dislike to hatred of first three Khalifas is bone of contention that brings tension in Muharram. The sectarian issues were manageable until 1979 after the invasion of Afghanistan and Islamic revolution in Iran turned into violent armed clashes. The arming of Afghan Mujahideen brought weapons and money with Saudi support for Sunni militant outfits that attacked Shias. The ISi, Pakistan Army and Pakistani government ignored this terrorism. Saudi Wahhabi regime has encouraged Talibans to attack Shia Hazaras in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Still Saudi fund attacks Shias in Pakistan and on Iranian border guards on Pak-Iran border.

Fine.

You are claiming that "Muharram" was manageable before 1979.

Can you please provide evidence to support that claim.
Are you suggesting that prior to 1979 and Afghans all Muharrams were peaceful ?
Are you suggesting that afghans penetrated almost all sects, and inculcated hate towards shia; which were previously friendly even loving towards shia ?


You are walking a very slippery slope; but do come back with arguments.

 

[SQ8]

Well said. If you are going to make false promises to the Gulf states.. then better live up to them. Whether out of a misplaced sense of religious brotherhood or for money. Time to pay for our "sins".

 

[B@KH]

There is plurality in Sunnis in Pakistan. The Barelvis are close to Sufism and folk Islam while Deobandis are more theology oriented. The Shia dislike to hatred of first three Khalifas is bone of contention that brings tension in Muharram. The sectarian issues were manageable until 1979 after the invasion of Afghanistan and Islamic revolution in Iran turned into violent armed clashes. The arming of Afghan Mujahideen brought weapons and money with Saudi support for Sunni militant outfits that attacked Shias. The ISi, Pakistan Army and Pakistani government ignored this terrorism. Saudi Wahhabi regime has encouraged Talibans to attack Shia Hazaras in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Still Saudi fund attacks Shias in Pakistan and on Iranian border guards on Pak-Iran border.

there are no unmanageable sectarian issues. Shia and Sunni are living here since millennium without any problem.

The problem started due to alien wahabis who tried to take over all sects thru petro dollars. they targeted all communities. So the problem is not only Pak or Afghan. It is all over the world now due to wahabi menace.

Till these two implanted wahabi and zionists menaces are not removed from the Middle east, peace cannot come.

the process and countdown has already begun for the removal of these two evil signatures from the region. People resistance has grown to astonishing level and the Logic of Might is Right is failing and the Era of Miracles and success is returning.

Well said. If you are going to make false promises to the Gulf states.. then better live up to them. Whether out of a misplaced sense of religious brotherhood or for money. Time to pay for our "sins".

who has done false promises with the gulf states ?

 

[Sage]

there are no unmanageable sectarian issues. Shia and Sunni are living here since millennium without any problem.

The problem started due to alien wahabis who tried to take over all sects thru petro dollars. they targeted all communities. So the problem is not only Pak or Afghan. It is all over the world now due to wahabi menace.

Till these two implanted wahabi and zionists menaces are not removed from the Middle east, peace cannot come.

the process and countdown has already begun for the removal of these two evil signatures from the region. People resistance has grown to astonishing level and the Logic of Might is Right is failing and the Era of Miracles and success is returning.

Don't mind but are you a shia or just a pro-khomenai ?

 

[B@KH]

Don't mind but are you a shia or just a pro-khomenai ?

look what we face today does not happened in 1 second or 1 day or 1 week or 1 month.

both good or bad has reached us thru a process of decades. what we do today will be seen after decades too depending on the size of our actions.

Allama Iqbal judged something and just in 4 decades we saw the result that he was very true. He addressed Iranian nation about their revolution and told them that he have seen it coming from the window of their prison and even said that his soul is their soul. He never talked like this about arabs or his own nation and it proved in just 4 decades. 1937 - 1979. (42 years).

طھران ہو گر عالم مشرق کا جنیوا شاید کرہ ارض کی تقدیر بدل جاۓ

Note it down. All others so-called champions (if they continue to live) will remain lackeys of the East or West While Islamic IRAN ensures defeat of the monarchists, communists, capitalists and all others forms.

Currently there is No rival or competitor of IRAN that can withstand sanctions, wars, terrorism, isolation. If you say it is Pak, for sure it is possible but only after 5 decades if the things start correcting today. yesterday usa, today Saudi, tomorrow china's lap.

So the Leaders like Jinnah or Iqbal or Khomeini or Khamenei if say something then it mean something and is valid and solid and unbeatable. That is why their words have power and nothing could withstand against them.

when a person who read Iqbal or Jinnah or Khomeini or Khamenei or Musa Sadr or Baqir Hakim or Ali Shariati, he cannot be impressed by those who are allied to monarchs or nato or any other who do not know their tomorrow. We know tomorrow thanks to Iqbal, Jinnah, Khomeini and Khamenei. They are the true followers of Quran and Sunnah. Rest is all darkness.

Try to get what Iqbal or Khomeini said. it is marvellous. no one could say it if not linked to Quran or Sunnah.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Don't mind but are you a shia or just a pro-khomenai ?

Are you Wahhabi or Saudi sympathizer ? While we are at it also inform as your sect, mother tongue, political affiliation, your family, blood type, etc

 

[Sage]

look what we face today does not happened in 1 second or 1 day or 1 week or 1 month.

both good or bad has reached us thru a process of decades. what we do today will be seen after decades too depending on the size of our actions.

Allama Iqbal judged something and just in 4 decades we saw the result that he was very true. He addressed Iranian nation about their revolution and told them that he have seen it coming from the window of their prison and even said that his soul is their soul. He never talked like this about arabs or his own nation and it proved in just 4 decades. 1937 - 1979. (42 years).

Note it down. All others so-called champions (if they continue to live) will remain lackeys of the East or West except Islamic IRAN that is changing the world and ensures defeat of the monarchists, communists, capitalists and all others forms.

Currently there is No rival or competitor of IRAN that can withstand sanctions, wars, terrorism, isolation. If you say it is Pak, for sure it is possible be but only after 5 decades if the things start correcting today which currently not seen. yesterday usa, today Saudi, tomorrow china's lap. they all support us.

So the Leaders like Jinnah or Iqbal or Khomeini or Khamenei if say something then it mean something and is valid and solid and unbeatable. That is why their words have power and nothing could withstand against them.

when a person who read Iqbal or Jinnah or Khomeini or Khamenei or Musa Sadr or Baqir Hakim or Ali Shariati, he cannot be impressed by those who are allied to monarchs or nato or any other who do not know their tomorrow. We know tomorrow thanks to Iqbal, Jinnah, Khomeini and Khamenei. They are the true followers of Quran and Sunnah. Otherwise it is all darkness.

Iran can never be the nucleus of Islamic spreading as it had never been so and being shia-centered makes it more difficult for Iran to survive under the same banner ....the recent GCC coalition against the Houthis (Iranian Proxy) is a testament of it ...Iran has become North Korea with their own religion and they only care parts of the world if their likes live in there ...it could have been different ....yes ...but sadly it is not ....Marjah, Hizbullah and Basij have grown to such an extent that Iran may not digest any other notion than 'Marg Barg Israel' or 'Marg Barg Buzurg Shetan' ....!

Are you Wahhabi or Saudi sympathizer ? While we are at it also inform as your sect, mother tongue, political affiliation, your family, blood type, etc

I am neither a wahabi nor a saudi sympathizer not an Iranian one ...
I am a Sunni ALHAMDOLILAH and respect all the Caliphs and Sahabas,
My mother tongue is Pashtu
Last time i voted PTI ....
My blood type is O+ ....

What I asked the question about the sect is because I am feeling that Ahl-e-Tasheegh has got only one perspective about KSA and that nothing is wrong with the policies of Iran ...
To have sect is not bad ...I never hide mine

 

[B@KH]

Iran can never be the nucleus of Islamic spreading as it had never been so and being shia-centered makes it more difficult for Iran to survive under the same banner ....the recent GCC coalition against the Houthis (Iranian Proxy) is a testament of it ...Iran has become North Korea with their own religion and they only care parts of the world if their likes live in there ...it could have been different ....yes ...but sadly it is not ....Marjah, Hizbullah and Basij have grown to such an extent that Iran may not digest any other notion than 'Marg Barg Israel' or 'Marg Barg Buzurg Shetan' ....!

considering the vision of Iqbal you are just mixing things. since when monarchists are considered islamists ? they are natural enemies of Islamic Iran.

If you apply your logic of north korea then you cannot blame Iran for anything in Iraq, Syria, yemen, or anywhere as it should be isolated instead of influencing others.

IRAN power base is the people and masses and that is why it survived sanctions, 8 years of war, economic crises, terrorism etc. what else you need to prove IRAN.

what notion other than mar bar Israel or usa is needed. it was ussr+Taliban+saddam and they are finished.

IRAN Notion is لا شرقيه و لا غربيه

Pakistan should also take this Iranian notion instead of jumping happily on china or saudi aid and LOL some fool even want to die for monarchs as they give them currency. therefore listen to Iqbal and try uderstand IRAN, it is changing the World.

What I asked the question about the sect is because I am feeling that Ahl-e-Tasheegh has got only one perspective about KSA and that nothing is wrong with the policies of Iran ...
To have sect is not bad ...I never hide mine

Look, King of IRAN was shia and was kicked by shias. we are against monarchs because ISLAM is against monarchy.

therefore you standing is not valid that shia are against KSA. we are simply against monarchs.

Shias Marjas supported sunni caliphate which the wahabis toppled in Arabia and ataturk toppled in turkey. now sunnis respect the killers of their caliphate. Shias are opposition to sunni caliphate but not its killers. Even our Imams supported the sunni caliphate as they too spread Islamic kalima.

 

[Sage]

considering the vision of Iqbal you are just mixing things. since when monarchists are considered islamists ? they are natural enemies of Islamic Iran.

If you apply your logic of north korea then you cannot blame Iran for anything in Iraq, Syria, yemen, or anywhere as it should be isolated instead of influencing others.

IRAN power base is the people and masses and that is why it survived sanctions, 8 years of war, economic crises, terrorism etc. what else you need to prove IRAN.

what notion other than mar bar Israel or usa is needed. it was ussr+Taliban+saddam and they are finished.

IRAN Notion is لا شرقيه و لا غربيه

Pakistan should also take this Iranian notion instead of jumping happily on china or saudi aid and LOL some fool even want to die for monarchs as they give them currency. therefore listen to Iqbal and try uderstand IRAN, it is changing the World.

Well ....this comment of yours just proved my previous argument that pro-Iranians cannot digest any other notion ...anyways ...for me it's the end of discussion ....no offense by the way

sunnis respect the killers of their caliphate. Shias are opposition to sunni caliphate but not its killers.

 

[salarsikander]

The problem here is of objective analysis.

A certain minority keeps accusing others of "wahabi" influence.
Whereas they themselves moan and loathe everything from their "shia" a.k.a Political Ayatoolah view point.

considering the vision of Iqbal you are just mixing things. since when monarchists are considered islamists ? they are natural enemies of Islamic Iran.

If you apply your logic of north korea then you cannot blame Iran for anything in Iraq, Syria, yemen, or anywhere as it should be isolated instead of influencing others.

IRAN power base is the people and masses and that is why it survived sanctions, 8 years of war, economic crises, terrorism etc. what else you need to prove IRAN.

what notion other than mar bar Israel or usa is needed. it was ussr+Taliban+saddam and they are finished.

IRAN Notion is لا شرقيه و لا غربيه

Pakistan should also take this Iranian notion instead of jumping happily on china or saudi aid and LOL some fool even want to die for monarchs as they give them currency. therefore listen to Iqbal and try uderstand IRAN, it is changing the World.



Look, King of IRAN was shia and was kicked by shias. we are against monarchs because ISLAM is against monarchy.

therefore you standing is not valid that shia are against KSA. we are simply against monarchs.

Shias Marjas supported sunni caliphate which the wahabis toppled in Arabia and ataturk toppled in turkey. now sunnis respect the killers of their caliphate. Shias are opposition to sunni caliphate but not its killers. Even our Imams supported the sunni caliphate as they too spread Islamic kalima.

Hi,
Your profounding love for Iran is appalling to the length where you went on to say, Pakistan wil be punished for its sins by Iran.

No one is interested in Arab or Irani influence in Pakistan for that matter, If you love being a slave please keep to yourself, otherwise as always you're more than welcome to join them.

But don't dare to spread the influence in this country

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Lets not questions other about sectarian beliefs. I am also a Sunni Barelvi. I have many close friends. We have had close relations with Persian culture with long time. The Azerbaijani Safavi dynasty converted Sunni Shafii Persians to Ithna Ashari Shia. The Persians were humiliated by the Arab occupation and they preferred Shia sect since it distinguished them from Sunni Arabs without leaving Islam. We need to have close relation with both Iran and Saudi Arabia and get involved sectarian strife in Yemen.

 

[B@KH]

Hi,
Your profounding love for Iran is appalling to the length where you went on to say, Pakistan wil be punished for its sins by Iran.

No one is interested in Arab or Irani influence in Pakistan for that matter, If you love being a slave please keep to yourself, otherwise as always you're more than welcome to join them.

But don't dare to spread the influence in this country

Hi,
you keep your religion with you and no need to pass your religion to others who do not like it. you are a failure.