Pakistani kingdoms in mythical Mahabharat epic

[Kabira]

Language spread may have happened through trade or migration of certain people, AFAIK Europe was not invaded by eastern people until Huns !

Come with better explanation, so Indian traders spread aryan languages to Europe? lmao

 

[ghoul]

So Indians spread indo-european languages all over europe? I keep repeating it but seem like you don't get it, Kalash are last surviving aryan people in South Asia.

Kalaash are not Aryan in terms of patrilineal descent. R1a, the Y-DNA lineage associated with Indo-Iranians(Aryans) is found among Kalaash at a low frequency compared to some other communities of south-Asia. In my opinion, probably the purest descendants of Aryans are the Punjabi Khatris, despite them having a higher percentage of South-Indian admixture compared to Kalaash etc. Brahmins are also pure, for most of them carry the R1a clade, but are not as pure as Khatris. Khatris also carry a higher Caucasus component than their Jatt and Gujjar neighbours, although the samples sizes might not be enough to make a gospel out of Khatris' Aryan descent. Genetic samples taken from Andronovo culture of Kazakhstan, which is thought to be a distinct Indo-Iranian culture turned out to be R1a 2 out of 3 times. If I'm not wrong, some 70% of Khatris showed the R1a lineage. It would be interesting to see the result of socially high ranking, large scale land owning rajputs of Punjab and Potohar region, who do not intermary with neighbouring tribes. I have a feeling most would belong to R1a too, but there are hardly any samples on the ancestry websites.

As for Kalaash, most of the samples have been found to belong to haplogroup L, which is highest in Tamils. Looks can be deceiving. Kalaash looking people can be found as far south as, I dare say, even Murree. Light eyes and skin is common throughout the himalayan and hindukush mountans. It's the Greek nationalist agenda which makes any distinctions between Kalaash and the rest of Gilgit-Baltistanis.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

You mistake me for a cheap troll, know the context and then talk. My point is, one should be true to his heritage and accept it the way it is. One cannot pretend to be an Arab during the day and a Sindhi or Punjabi during the night.

You are forgetting that Pakistani belong to different ethnicities, castes and tribes and not all of them claim same origin. If some Pakistani claim to be syed then it dont mean all Pakistani would become arabs and similarly origin of Muslim Pakistani rajputs may differ to those Pakistani who have Pashtun or baloch origin. We have some siddi/makrani people who claim their origin in southeast Africa so you guys should not expect from all Pakistani to have same origin.

 

[Kabira]

Kalaash are not Aryan in terms of patrilineal descent. R1a, the Y-DNA lineage associated with Indo-Iranians(Aryans) is found among Kalaash at a low frequency compared to some other communities of south-Asia. In my opinion, probably the purest descendants of Aryans are the Punjabi Khatris, despite them having a higher percentage of South-Indian admixture compared to Kalaash etc. Brahmins are also pure, for most of them carry the R1a clade, but are not as pure as Khatris. Khatris also carry a higher Caucasus component than their Jatt and Gujjar neighbours, although the samples sizes might not be enough to make a gospel out of Khatris' Aryan descent. Genetic samples taken from Andronovo culture of Kazakhstan, which is thought to be a distinct Indo-Iranian culture turned out to be R1a 2 out of 3 times. If I'm not wrong, some 70% of Khatris showed the R1a lineage. It would be interesting to see the result of socially high ranking, large scale land owning rajputs of Punjab and Potohar region, who do not intermary with neighbouring tribes. I have a feeling most would belong to R1a too, but there are hardly any samples on the ancestry websites.

As for Kalaash, most of the samples have been found to belong to haplogroup L, which is highest in Tamils. Looks can be deceiving. Kalaash looking people can be found as far south as, I dare say, even Murree. Light eyes and skin is common throughout the himalayan and hindukush mountans. It's the Greek nationalist agenda which makes any distinctions between Kalaash and the rest of Gilgit-Baltistanis.

Someone have added around 50 jatt samples 23andme on anthrogenica and 64% of them have R1a. And no 70% khatris didn't show r1a, there has never been any khatri specific studies. Bengali brahmins showed 72% R1a. Though so far only 1 punjabi gujjar sample and he is R1a1.

R1a is most common haplogroup in north west subcontinent in all tribes, probably not in low castes. The main difference between Pakistan and north west India is HAP caucasian/ne euro component. In Pakistan caucasian component increases but ne euro lowers.

Kalash have L3a* which has nothing to do with Tamils.

harappadna is dead, but people in anthrogenica keep updating this chart with new samples.

Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free.

Rajputs in Pak should also have 60-70% r1a, there are already 6-7 Pak rajputs samples on HAP and this chart combined. There is also one sample from Murre on that list, he is abbasi.

 

[ghoul]

Someone have added around 50 jatt samples 23andme on anthrogenica and 64% of them have R1a. And no 70% khatris didn't show r1a, there has never been any khatri specific studies. Bengali brahmins showed 72% R1a. Though so far only 1 punjabi gujjar sample and he is R1a1.

R1a is most common haplogroup in north west subcontinent in all tribes, probably not in low castes. The main difference between Pakistan and north west India is HAP caucasian/ne euro component. In Pakistan caucasian component increases but ne euro lowers.

Kalash have L3a* which has nothing to do with Tamils.

harappadna is dead, but people in anthrogenica keep updating this chart with new samples.

Google Sheets - create and edit spreadsheets online, for free.

Rajputs in Pak should also have 60-70% r1a, there are already 6-7 Pak rajputs samples on HAP and this chart combined. There is also one sample from Murre on that list, he is abbasi.

Jatt Sikhs appear to be purer than Pakistan Jatts, but perhaps it's just the sample bias? Khatris have a relatively higher caucasus component than their compatriots judging by the samples we have. And I don't remember my source, but Khatris indeed did have around 70%.

Also what do you think is the reason for elevated caucasus component? Is it an integration with the Scythians or were the original Aryans higher in caucasus component?

 

[Ajai Ghale]

See the difference, you are posting random pictures while I am posting ubber high castes regiments who probably make 10% or lower of Indian population.

So these are not rajput regiments?

rajput regiment, google it

dogra regiment

jaat regiment

fooking mochis look



Read this
Horseplay in Harappa

Your desperation will not make any difference to real historical facts.

LAMO they are average Pakistani weak and inferior and the second pic of paramilitary not rajput regiment.

These are not random pics for example here is your Naval chief

I don't know what is more frightening Pak navy of your pure Aryan Naval Chief

Indian Naval chief

 

[Kabira]

Jatt Sikhs appear to be purer than Pakistan Jatts, but perhaps it's just the sample bias? Khatris have a relatively higher caucasus component than their compatriots judging by the samples we have. And I don't remember my source, but Khatris indeed did have around 70%.

Also what do you think is the reason for elevated caucasus component? Is it an integration with the Scythians or were the original Aryans higher in caucasus component?

If you mean by lower s indian then they have lower s indian then all of Pak tribes east of indus not necerarly just pak jatts. And hindu jaats in haryana seem to have even lower s indian then sikh jatts. I think reason is again mystery ne euro component, Indian punjab jatts/brahmins have mixed with haryana jaats/brahmins thats why they have high ne euro and lower caucasian then west punjabis. Its again depend on tribe since khatris look to have higher caucasian and lower ne euro. Also few sikh jatts also have higher caucasian and lower euro. But as a rule they mostly have higher euro then west punjabis.

I don't think its sampling bias because one don't need thousands of samples. And so far every Pakistani sampled have higher caucasian and lower ne euro. No idea why there is higher caucasian and lower ne euro component in west punjab to be honest.

If aryans had high ne euro in them then current day brahmins and haryana jaats are related to them. If they had higher caucasian then kalash people who have 20% are likely candidate. Remember brahmins spread out from Haryana if I am not wrong, thats why even Bengali brahmins have higher ne euro despite mixing.

LAMO they are average Pakistani weak and inferior and the second pic of paramilitary not rajput regiment.

These are not random pics for example here is your Naval chief

I don't know what is more frightening Pak navy of your pure Aryan Naval Chief
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Indian Naval chief
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seem like you don't like indian high caste regiments photos, lol pure aryan. And you can post neil nitin photo to prove how Indians look, thats will be random selection. I only posted high caste regiments because thats the best India has to offer from their tiny pool of high caste population. and that rajput regiment are rangers or what ever but they are rajputs.

 

[Ajai Ghale]

If you mean by lower s indian then they have lower s indian then all of Pak tribes east of indus not necerarly just pak jatts. And hindu jaats in haryana seem to have even lower s indian then sikh jatts. I think reason is again mystery ne euro component, Indian punjab jatts/brahmins have mixed with haryana jaats/brahmins thats why they have high ne euro and lower caucasian then west punjabis. Its again depend on tribe since khatris look to have higher caucasian and lower ne euro. Also few sikh jatts also have higher caucasian and lower euro. But as a rule they mostly have higher euro then west punjabis.

I don't think its sampling bias because one don't need thousands of samples. And so far every Pakistani sampled have higher caucasian and lower ne euro. No idea why there is higher caucasian and lower ne euro component in west punjab to be honest.

If aryans had high ne euro in them then current day brahmins and haryana jaats are related to them. If they had higher caucasian then kalash people who have 20% are likely candidate. Remember brahmins spread out from Haryana if I am not wrong, thats why even Bengali brahmins have higher ne euro despite mixing.



seem like you don't like indian high caste regiments photos, lol pure aryan. And you can post neil nitin photo to prove how Indians look, thats will be random selection. I only posted high caste regiments because thats the best India has to offer from their tiny pool of high caste population. and that rajput regiment are rangers or what ever but they are rajputs.

Though i have many other pics of your army both new and old but i didn't posted them as some of you may get offended.... All the rest are are of your regular soldiers during Recent FATA ops,NLI and from Kargil.

Secondly when I post the Rajput regiment pics the insignia is clearly visible it is you who post the pics of paramilitary and call it Army.

Next time be careful what you post

 

[Kabira]

Though i have many other pics of your army both new and old but i didn't posted them as some of you may get offended.... All the rest are are of your regular soldiers during Recent FATA ops,NLI and from Kargil.

Secondly when I post the Rajput regiment pics the insignia is clearly visible it is you who post the pics of paramilitary and call it Army.

Next time be careful what you post

Even in your selective pak army photos they looked better then indian soldiers lol. I searched rajput regiment to get pictures. Google them, they are best India has to offer from tiny pool of high castes aryans.

Hell I am not even posting Pakistan FC or G-B forces photos who are from western Pakistan and much more lighter then aryan indians in these regiments.

And that indian navy chief you posted is punjabi khatri lmao.

 

[Ajai Ghale]

Even in your selective pak army photos they looked better then indian soldiers lol. I searched rajput regiment to get pictures. Google them, they are best India has to offer from tiny pool of high castes aryans.

Hell I am not even posting Pakistan FC or G-B forces photos who are from western Pakistan and much more lighter then aryan indians in these regiments.

And that indian navy chief you posted is punjabi khatri lmao.

I have several pics of FF soldiers believe me no Pakistani want to be see them and regarding the post you pics of your either Fat or 40 kg soldiers,you should know the reason why you lost every war and why we are natural athletes comparable with pak in Running,Long jump,Boxing,Wrestling and other sports where strength and stamina matters.

For example I posted the pic from Kargil war a 40kg NLI inayat Ali and a Indian jat who took bullets on his chest with pics.

 

[halupridol]

So whats up wid martial pendus,,,,got any info of ur mahapind in Mahabharat I guess it must be under foreign occupation even then

 

[Kabira]

I have several pics of FF soldiers believe me no Pakistani want to be see them and regarding the post you pics of your either Fat or 40 kg soldiers,you should know the reason why you lost every war and why we are natural athletes comparable with pak in Running,Long jump,Boxing,Wrestling and other sports where strength and stamina matters.

For example I posted the pic from Kargil war a 40kg NLI inayat Ali and a Indian jat who took bullets on his chest with pics.

They all looked better then mochi look that indian rajput/jat regiments have. Ofcourse its not my opinion but well known fact, hell you even posted some indian punjabi navy chief photo lmao. Out side Indian punjab, differences keep getting bigger. These people are kalash of India, thats how tiny their population is in India.

 

[Ajai Ghale]

They all looked better then mochi look that indian rajput/jat regiments have. Ofcourse its not my opinion but well known fact, hell you even posted some indian punjabi navy chief photo lmao. Out side Indian punjab, differences keep getting bigger. These people are kalash of India, thats how tiny their population is in India.

Scroll back few pages see those Bhangis once again except for the beard nothing is white not too mention weak physique and they even showing their Homo tendency.

 

[Kabira]

Scroll back few pages see those Bhangis once again except for the beard nothing is white not too mention weak physique and they even showing their Homo tendency.

Well you are delusional, simple as that. To you mochis look like aryans, its clear you are trolling.

 

[Peshwa]

No where near aryans? How did aryans look then?

The question is....how does anyone know what an Aryan looked like when everything from their origin to their immigration pattern is shrouded in mystery?
Somehow you seem to be retrofitting your own views of what Aryans looked like to support your cause..
Do explain how you came up with the Aryan prototypical look...