Pakistan trained al-Qaeda, says Imran Khan

[Kabira]

And your ISI and Military intel had no clue, right? I doubt even you believe that.

The fact is that Osama found refuge among the people who sympathize with his ideologies.

Yes they didn't have any clue.

 

[randaam janmam]

You are stupid or what? You have slight idea about Pak-afghan border? He was not state guest but entered illegally and was hidden ..Its same like saying that US provided shelter to those who did 9/11 and India provided shelter to those who were involved in Bombay attack....apply same logic to Pulwama attack that how did such a large cache of explosives reach the Pulwama district of South Kashmir?

Did Osama go around shooting at civilians in Pakistan like the Pakistani attackers in Mumbai? What exactly is the comparison here? Pakistanis came to Mumbai and killed civilians, and they were killed by our security forces. Osama lived in a Pakistani military cantonment until American commandos came in and killed him.

He was a welcome guest there. If he was an illegal that Pakistanis didn't want, the US could simply have informed Pakistan and have had him arrested or killed. But the Americans had to secretly fly in and kill him, because they knew that your people were protecting him.

If you believe that Pakistan successfully dodged all of NATO intelligence combined..

They did, until they couldn't. Finally US intelligence found him hiding in your military cantonment, and killed him.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Did Osama go around shooting at civilians in Pakistan like the Pakistani attackers in Mumbai? What exactly is the comparison here? Pakistanis came to Mumbai and killed civilians, and they were killed by our security forces. Osama lived in a Pakistani military cantonment until American commandos came in and killed him.

He was a welcome guest there. If he was an illegal that Pakistanis didn't want, the US could simply have informed Pakistan and have had him arrested or killed. But the Americans had to secretly fly in and kill him, because they knew that your people were protecting him.

You are saying that its impossible for terrorist to be in country without government official knowing about it but you are not applying same logic to terrorists in your own country. Terrorists can cross border and can enter into India easily, take huge explosive stuff with them even in sensitive places without any security checks or anyone stopping them but no person can cross long Pak- afghan border illegally to enter into Pakistan lol

 

[randaam janmam]

You are saying that its impossible for terrorist to be in country without government official knowing about it but you are not applying same logic to terrorists in your own country. Terrorists can cross border and can enter into India easily, take huge explosive stuff with them even in sensitive places without any security checks or anyone stopping them but no person can cross long Pak- afghan border illegally to enter into Pakistan lol

They can't live for years in a military cantonment without the knowledge of the host country. Of course, terrorists can come in and kill innocent people, like the Pakistanis in Mumbai.

Why do you think the Americans launched operation Neptune Spear and sent in their elite seal team six to kill Osama, instead of just informing your authorities? Why did they practice it all for weeks, after the CIA discovered his hideout? Why didn't they ask your military to take him out? Think about it.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

They can't live for years in a military cantonment without the knowledge of the host country. Of course, terrorists can come in and kill innocent people, like the Pakistanis in Mumbai.

Why do you think the Americans launched operation Neptune Spear and sent in their elite seal team six to kill Osama, instead of just informing your authorities? Why did they practice it all for weeks, after the CIA discovered his hideout? Why didn't they ask your military to take him out? Think about it.

You are more stupid than I thought. We have thousand afghan refugees who are living illegally in Pakistan and was not easy to traced them. Well if American was so much informed about Osama then why they invaded Afghanistan and was haunting him in caves if he was state guests of Pakistan. He would be hidden in much safer place if he was state guest and any assets for Pakistan. American and Pakistan dont trust each others

 

[Fawadqasim1]

osama bin laden was trained by isi and cia in the days of afghan jihad he is actually alluding to that. Waysay bhee Hindu aur patwari aik hee train main bathain hain

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

osama bin laden was trained by isi and cia in the days of afghan jihad he is actually alluding to that. Waysay bhee Hindu aur patwari aik hee train main bathain hain

You like true slave keep worshipping him no matter what he say. No Isi did not trained Osama or Alqaida fighers and they were not even locals ..

 

[Fawadqasim1]

You like true slave keep worshipping him no matter what he say. No Isi did not trained Osama or Alqaida fighers and they were not even locals ..

Yes they were imported and he was talking in that context listen to the whole interview and
try to understand it in the contaxt obl was one of the arab commanders in the days of Afghan jihad if you don't know the history please read before you comment IK mentioned the phenomena of gathering foreign fighters from around the world in this very interview before this statement.
and i worship only God.

 

[AZ1]

He explained this in today's press conference what actually he meant.

what can you expect from a person obsessed with imran khan in hate. It wouldnt serve his purpose towards hate for IK.

 

[Falcon26]

Storm in a teacup. The Indians are frustrated they couldn’t bait Trump to say something negative about Pakistan. In fact, he clearly said Kashmir was a bilateral issue and that both countries should resolve the issue.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Yes they were imported and he was talking in that context listen to the whole interview and
try to understand it in the contaxt obl was one of the arab commanders in the days of Afghan jihad if you don't know the history please read before you comment IK mentioned the phenomena of gathering foreign fighters from around the world in this very interview before this statement.
and i worship only God.

No they were not imported by ISI but they took part in Jihad against USSR voluntarily and they are different group than Taliban whom Pakistan trained
Imran khan said same thing what our enemy wanted to hear and they are using his statement to spread propaganda against Pakistan army and to verify their claims against army . Its funny that in love of Ik you guys are supporting this anti army narrative of our enemies( PTM, Indian, western) that Pakistani army and ISI was supporting militancy instead of fighting against it . Alqaia was terrorist organization and they carried out terrorist attack in different countries without any uspport from ISI or Pakistan army. Pakistan only supported Afghan mujiahdeen to stop russian communist expansion but they did not trained any terrorist group like those of al qaida.

Ahmed Shuja Pasha, the head of Pakistan's powerful Directorate of (ISI), conceded that Osama bin Laden's presence in Pakistan had been an "intelligence failure" but denied his ISI could have had any role in hiding Bin Laden. "If we had shielded Osama bin Laden, why would we have killed and arrested so many al-Qaeda leaders?" he stated "Would we have hidden such a large target in such an exposed area? Without any guards or escape route?

what can you expect from a person obsessed with imran khan in hate. It wouldnt serve his purpose towards hate for IK.

I know you cannot think beyond IK and PTI

 

[GriffinsRule]

Its pointless to argue with Indians unless you want to waste away brain cells. Only thing Indians are good at is making a mountain out of a mole hill ... and claims of surgical strikes.
You think Imran Khan said something the US does not know the history of already or acknowledge their role in creation of Taliban and Al Qaida?

 

[hellsingfan]

And your ISI and Military intel had no clue, right? I doubt even you believe that.

The fact is that Osama found refuge among the people who sympathize with his ideologies.

Mullah Omar, leader of Taliban, was living in walking distance to a US base in Afghanistan, so US intelligence and military must have been protecting him right? Intelligence failures are a reality, stop being stupid. 13 Hijackers got visa, trained, Lived, hijacked and attacked various parts of US, it’s called intelligence failure.

 

[tkmd]

I actually dont think its a big deal that IK admitted what we all know to be true. And by the ways, every nation does what is in their interest. India ignores daily lynchings of Muslims/whips up anti Muslim hysteria/supports Baloch terrorists/etc. Pakistan gains nothing from fighting the Afghan taliban and their allies. So Pakistan will do whatever it can to maintain its interest and play all sides. Just like every other effing country on Earth.

I am sick of four foot tall mallus acting outraged over things like this. Yeah we sent people to Mumbai...what are you going to do about it? I thought you're powerful/unstoppable/important and feared. And yet it took you five days to subdue four paindus with guns and grenades. Your policemen hid in their stations with the lights off.

Pakistan is a sovereign state. Every nation does what is in its interest. And we will do that as well. It may mean sanctions. But spare me the self righteous bullshit that somehow India is an angel state and never does anything like this.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Mullah Omar, leader of Taliban, was living in walking distance to a US base in Afghanistan, so US intelligence and military must have been protecting him right? Intelligence failures are a reality, stop being stupid. 13 Hijackers got visa, trained, Lived, hijacked and attacked various parts of US, it’s called intelligence failure.

Also India is doing great efforts to brand freedom fighters or those fighting against occupation as terrorist but we don't need to be apologetics and should tell the world about differences between them. Kashmir is occupied territory and Kashmiri has all right to resist against illegal occupation with all resources they have got and Pakistan should openly declare all sort of support for them if India don't stop its atrocities in Kashmir