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Pakistan spied on German officers in Afghanistan: paper

Oh come on, we both know the truth.

Yes indeed you know that truth if u know that it is not Pakistan that is responsible for all the **** going around the world.Its the **** created by Superpowers for their own use .

Pakistan have shown bit of eyes to American and all this No more loans from IMF, All the BS propoganda started against Pakistan esp ISI (coz it is proving to be pain in the a** of CIA and others) , they tighten everything around Pakistan , just coz they were denied doing operation in NW.

I think i can see alot is conneted and if u think without being an indian then u will know otherwise good for u think whatever u like. Its not of our issue.
 
They make it sound like ISI is on the payroll of Taliban. The first and foremost interest of ISI is Pakistan national security, and Taliban were once part of the same chain. Not the other way around!
 
If they have hard evidence, why don't they present it in the same shows they broadcast?

It is the responsibility of the accuser to establish and prove guilt - so where is the evidence supporting these allegations by the accuser?

We heard all this nonsense in the US media about 'US has evidence ISI supported Haqqani attacks against US', and when Clinton visited Pakistan and was asked this directly, she said the US had no evidence.

Same drama and BS here.

That was my question actually. If they do not have evidence then why they're accusing in the first place? Like you mentioned Mrs Clinton, why all the people are accusing you.. don't you think that there has to be something.. may be they can't prove ISI wrong in the court of law but there has to be something which is making them accuse you. Last time it was France (if I'm not wrong) and now Germany. You see, these 2 countries normally don't comment like this.

I'm not saying that we should believe them just because they don't do it normally, but there has to be something if US, UK, France, Germany and of course India is blaming you guys.
 
ISI is a spy agency and what is the purpose of spy agency ? SPYING and what else you people expect from a spy agency
If ISI was spying on Germans then what is wrong in it ? Afghanistan is a battle ground between NATO and Taliban so ISI has duty to see what is going on in our neighbor and for that it has to spy on both NATO and Talibans ..... After few NATO strikes on Pakistani check posts and attack from Afghan side made it essential that we should know what is going on there ......
If NATO decided to do any unilateral strike in Pakistan tribal areas then we have to get this information in advance so that we can take some counter measures
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every spy agency spying on others like Mossad spies arrested in USA .. they are friendly countries but they still spying on each other ...... RAW spying in Pakistan ........ ISI spying in India and Afghanistan
there is nothing new in it .......
 
Guys..in a w@r..there is not any reason that is perfect..everything is logically correct wrt to the respective sides..so it is a waste of time to convince each other who is correct and not...
 
Our 'allies' don't trust Pakistan, provide safe havens to TTP terrorists in Eastern Afghanistan, and Baluch terrorists in Kabul - they carry out illegal and unsanctioned raids in Pakistan, hide intelligence from Pakistan despite Pakistan sharing intelligence with them.

Why should Pakistan not intercept information from ISAF?

You can be sure ISAF is doing the same with Pakistan.
Yes! the US and NATO shold not backstab their only ally within the region. We sacrificed so much as being an ally and supported all the US/NATO missions and in the end we get backstabbed like what we are getting through media thats ridiculous and not tolerable.....They shold not mistreat us like that...:smokin:
 
Yes indeed you know that truth if u know that it is not Pakistan that is responsible for all the **** going around the world.Its the **** created by Superpowers for their own use .

You're partly responsible as you supported them.


Pakistan have shown bit of eyes to American and all this No more loans from IMF, All the BS propoganda started against Pakistan esp ISI (coz it is proving to be pain in the a** of CIA and others) , they tighten everything around Pakistan , just coz they were denied doing operation in NW.
Its not that you denied because I remember you guys passed the resolution against drone strikes and we can see what is happening every other day.

I think i can see alot is conneted and if u think without being an indian then u will know otherwise good for u think whatever u like. Its not of our issue.
Its got nothing to do with me being an Indian. Even I can say that you're pakistani that's why you are talking like this.
 
one silly question.

are we that much capable(in technical terms,info and security) that we listen the conversation of some European country?
 
If they do not have evidences then why they accuse you? Why don't they accuse somebody else for a change?

:lol:

WTF? What kind of a post is that?

Why did Bush accuse Iraq of having WMDs without evidence? Why not someone else?

Dude, please don't make such outright stupid posts.

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That was my question actually. If they do not have evidence then why they're accusing in the first place? Like you mentioned Mrs Clinton, why all the people are accusing you.. don't you think that there has to be something.. may be they can't prove ISI wrong in the court of law but there has to be something which is making them accuse you. Last time it was France (if I'm not wrong) and now Germany. You see, these 2 countries normally don't comment like this.

I'm not saying that we should believe them just because they don't do it normally, but there has to be something if US, UK, France, Germany and of course India is blaming you guys.

:lol:

Are you serious?

So if we go by your logic, since all these countries were accusing Iraq of having WMDs, those accusations must be true, because even though they can't prove them wrong in court of law, there must be something that they must have to accuse Iraq. :lol:

According to your logic, claiming that US/UK/Spain/South Korea, etc were lying about Iraq's WMDs would be a conspiracy theory. But in fact, it was US who was making the conspiracy theories, not the ones who are saying that all these countries were lying. And by your logic, since that many countries are accusing Iraq, those accusations must have something to them. Go look up what's called argumentum ad populum.

Now you asked why would so many countries accuse Pakistan? Since so many countries are accusing Pakistan it must be true. I ask you, why would so many countries lie about Iraq? All these countries may be lying about Pakistan because they may have a common interest - scapegoating someone for their failure in Afghanistan.

Dude, please start making logical posts for once. These kinds of posts are an embarrassment.

You can make accusations all you want, you can have as much support as you want, but if you don't have evidence, those accusations are pointless.

So you see, the ones making the conspiracy theories are YOU and these select westerners here. The ones in denial are you.
 
Why give it to the Taliban?

If the ISI was in fact intercepting it, it would be doing so to better understand German/ISAF operations in Afghanistan and to learn from them and ensure that Pakistani national interests were not being damaged.

well if this (uncorroborated) report is true, then yes that is the only logical reason why they'd do so

Afghanistan is awash with spies from foreign countries anyways, Pakistan isn't the only country. As usual, the media just focuses on what Pakistan allegedly does, just for the sake of sensationalist masala headlines
 
well if this (uncorroborated) report is true, then yes that is the only logical reason why they'd do so

Afghanistan is awash with spies from foreign countries anyways, Pakistan isn't the only country. As usual, the media just focuses on what Pakistan allegedly does, just for the sake of sensationalist masala headlines
But most of the time Pakistan is not even involved in anything and gets blame of involvement for that and without anyreason...its so sad about that...Why the US/NATO is mistreating us?....:smokin:

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This UAV is made by sagem, a deutch company, can anyone dare to explain me what this uAV was doing in quetta ?!!
Spying on our Armed forces and guiding the terrorists to attack on our security posts....:eek:
 
Our purpose on spying on ISAF (if true) would be to see, what the final solution to the Afghan war is going to look like, and make sure that our national security objectives will be achieved. The Tabs have nothing to do with this.
 
So many responses -- not one asking why there are no named sources for this story. Not a single post question the journalistic ethics of such publications - after all, simply making claims, why do we need magazines to that, we can all do that.
 

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