'Pakistan should take Kashmir issue to int'l court'

[ARMalik]

Only the weak go to the Courts. The only way forward for Pakistan to retake Indian kashmir is the use of Force in Kashmir.

 

[HAIDER]

Former chief justice of Gambia says Islamabad should highlight India's rights abuses in UN court

A former chief justice of Gambia has suggested Pakistan to approach the International Court of Justice (ICJ) regarding the continuing rights violations in Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir.

Retired Justice Ali Nawaz Chowhan, according to a statement issued by the Srinagar-based Legal Forum for Oppressed Voices of Kashmir (LFOVK) on Saturday, said Pakistan being an important party to the long-standing dispute should approach the UN court.

Chowhan made the remarks during a three-day moot competition, The Case Pertaining to Kashmir Dispute in Islamabad.

LFOVK, which organized the event, is an international legal organization which defends "the political, social and human rights of Kashmiris."

"If Gambia can approach the ICJ under the section of violation of human rights, why not Pakistan," he was quoted as saying.

Pakistani authorities must explain the reason for the delay, he added.

Chowhan, a Pakistani national, was a judge in the Hague from 2006 to 2009. He later served as chief justice of Gambia between 2014 and 2015.

The former judge urged for efforts to get Kashmiris recognized before the UN the way Palestinian bodies are represented at the international forum.

“There are UN resolutions on Kashmir, they nurture the struggle of Kashmir but when we wish to address the legal aspect of the dispute, one fails to understand why Pakistan as a state and an important party to this dispute fails to approach the ICJ," he said.

At the inaugural session of the moot court, Khalid Rahman, head of the Islamabad-based Institute of Policy Studies (IPS), highlighted Pakistan’s Kashmir policy after India stripped the disputed region of its special autonomous status last year.

Pakistan, he said, needed to improve its policies “because the paradigm shift has changed the dimension of Kashmir dispute".

He urged the Pakistani government to never step back on the issue.

Indian-administered Kashmir has been under a near-complete lockdown since Aug. 5 when New Delhi ended the previously codified constitutional regulations for the Muslim-majority region.

Several rights groups, including the Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, have repeatedly called on India to lift the restrictions such as internet ban, and release political detainees.

Kashmir is held by India and Pakistan in parts and claimed by both in full. A small sliver of the state is also held by China.

Since they were partitioned in 1947, the two countries have fought three wars -- in 1948, 1965 and 1971 -- two of them over Kashmir.

Some Kashmiri groups in the disputed state have been fighting against Indian rule for independence, or for unification with neighboring Pakistan.

According to several rights organizations, thousands of people have been killed and tortured in the conflict since 1989.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/pakistan-should-take-kashmir-issue-to-intl-court/1742287

only through power , no other way. No one is interested

 

[Flash_Ninja]

I've already acknowledged the GoP efforts to utilise diplomatic channels to communicate the issue of Kashmir to the international community. They've been quite successful in this endeavour, all the major powers now know what GoP's stance is and her determination to solve this issue.

Convincing other nations to act on your priorities will require either leverage or allies or a quid pro quo arrangement. The only leverage GoP holds is the threat of nuclear arms use and the ensuring destruction that will follow; a gun to the head does not an ally make.

As regards to change in other nations behaviour, I once again ask you humbly, to point towards executive actions intended to cajole/coerce GoI into undoing it's actions or at the very least punish it for it's deeds.

After all, if all you've gotten are words spoken, with no executive action to solve the issue, then of what benefit are such words ?

How many gangus are my posts triggering

Look i'll spell it out so you and your countrymen are capable of understanding.

Pakistan successfully internationalised Kashmir by broadcasting the issue to governments around the world, and managed to convince many other nations to change their policy regarding Kashmir.

Diplomacy is defined as the established method of influencing the decisions and behaviour of foreign governments and peoples through dialogue, negotiation, and other measures short of war or violence.

Therefore Pakistan conducted succesful diplomacy.

Nowhere in the defintion of internationalising or diplomacy, are hardline actions like sanctions or war required so you and your countrymens sad attempts to keep shifting the goalpost just makes you look foolish.

 

[Krptonite]

How many gangus are my posts triggering

Look i'll spell it out so you and your countrymen are capable of understanding.

Pakistan successfully internationalised Kashmir by broadcasting the issue to governments around the world, and managed to convince many other nations to change their policy regarding Kashmir.

Diplomacy is defined as the established method of influencing the decisions and behaviour of foreign governments and peoples through dialogue, negotiation, and other measures short of war or violence.

Therefore Pakistan conducted succesful diplomacy.

Nowhere in the defintion of internationalising or diplomacy, are hardline actions like sanctions or war required so you and your countrymens sad attempts to keep shifting the goalpost just makes you look foolish.

I'll condense it down for you, international criticism won't affect GoI policies as long as trade continues unhindered.

If simply changing policies which do not translate to any ground change is good enough for you, then congratulations on informing the global community and accolades on the successful "diplomacy". As long as your successful diplomacy doesn't translate into official condemnation followed by coercive action like sanctions, GoI's going to be fine with it.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

I'll condense it down for you, international criticism won't affect GoI policies as long as trade continues unhindered.

Congratulations on informing the global community and accolades on the successful "diplomacy". As long as your successful diplomacy doesn't translate into official condemnation followed by coercive action like sanctions, GoI's going to be fine with it.

Keep your head in the sand while the narrative builds around you, why would I care. The fact that so many random gangus are getting upset means that my comments clearly hit close to home.

Maybe also tell your panicking officials theres nothing to worry about, as their greatest attempts to try and counter Pakistans diplomacy is paying far-right extremists to sit on a guided tour.

 

[Thamizh Puli]

Based on your post I would assume you are either Tamil/Telegu origin? if so, why are you trying to get involved in discussion about Kashmir? Most Pakistanis don't have any interest in your region or your politics. Doesn't make sense for us to discuss something that have no link to your culture or history.

why does it bother you? It is our country.

BTW I only mentioned Telugu because I didn't (and still don't) understand that word. It doesn;t make contextual sense, what gang is he talking about

 

[Krptonite]

Keep your head in the sand while the narrative builds around you, why would I care. The fact that so many random gangus are getting upset means that my comments clearly hit close to home.

Maybe also tell your panicking officials theres nothing to worry about, as their greatest attempts to try and counter Pakistans diplomacy is paying far-right extremists to sit on a guided tour.

I've asked you repeatedly now to showcase any real actions to support your cause. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder, I'm sure your "narrative" will reverse India's actions on Kashmir.

Keep building your "narrative" for the next 70 years, if that's all it takes to call it a success, I wish you a successful century.

Lord knows why I'm trying to get through to someone ignorant of how international exchange works.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

Keep building your "narrative" for the next 70 years, if that's all it takes to call it a success, I wish you a successful century.

Narrative building is clearly something you thickheaded baboons will never understand, the result of internationalising Kashmir among many other initiatives has led to wider reporting in publications which formerly would never have touched the subject:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...atsapp-no-internet-this-is-now-normal-life-in
https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/indias-grand-road-to-nothingness-in-kashmir/
https://www.voanews.com/press-freedom/kashmir-journalists-accuse-indian-police-muzzling-press

As well as formerly Pakistan skeptics changing their tune such as Trumps right hand man Lindsay Graham, and many journalists and regional analysts.

I've asked you repeatedly now to showcase any real actions to support your cause. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder, I'm sure your "narrative" will reverse India's actions on Kashmir.

Lord knows why I'm trying to get through to someone ignorant of how international exchange works.

Oh how ignorant and braindead you people are.

I said that Pakistan succesfully internationalised the issue, you and the call centre brigade get butthurt and try and shift the goalposts asking where are the sanctions?

Completely ignoring the fact the fact that internationalising doesnt depend on hardline actions like sanctions or war, but involves the subtle art of diplomacy to convince other nations to consider or change their policy regarding an issue.

Go learn english first, then go learn the defintion of diplomacy before you make yourself look like a fool.

 

[Krptonite]

Narrative building is clearly something you thickheaded baboons will never understand, the result of internationalising Kashmir among many other initiatives has led to wider reporting in publications which formerly would never have touched the subject:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...atsapp-no-internet-this-is-now-normal-life-in
https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/indias-grand-road-to-nothingness-in-kashmir/
https://www.voanews.com/press-freedom/kashmir-journalists-accuse-indian-police-muzzling-press

As well as formerly Pakistan skeptics changing their tune such as Trumps right hand man Lindsay Graham, and many journalists and regional analysts.



Oh how ignorant and braindead you people are.

I said that Pakistan succesfully internationalised the issue, you and the call centre brigade get butthurt and try and shift the goalposts asking where are the sanctions?

Completely ignoring the fact the fact that internationalising doesnt depend on hardline actions like sanctions or war, but involves the subtle art of diplomacy to convince other nations to consider or change their policy regarding an issue.

Go learn english first, then go learn the defintion of diplomacy before you make yourself look like a fool.

Ok, I understand what you're trying to convey, though I wish you'd understand what I was trying to point out, mere internationalisation won't get the job done.

Clearly you feel the road to taking Kashmir back is through narrative building. I wish you a successful narrative building all around the world for the foreseeable future.