Pakistan PM seeks int'l intervention in India violence

[CrazyZ]

The Mughals used their might and intellect to dominate over the subcontinent and convert the inhabitants, some wilfully converted to escape brutal Indian caste system which mistreats Dalits severely. The vast majority of Pakistanis fall into this. This is similar to how North Indians are descended from Aryan conquerers mixing with the local population. Hinduism developed ok the subcontinent in an organic fashion but it was the Aryan invaders who bright the swastika, the oldest depiction of a swastika was found in what is now Ukraine.

Pakistani groups like Punjabi, Sindhi and Muhajir who make up the majority of Pakistan are genetically identical to various North Indian groups. Changing ones religion doesn't change ones DNA.

The descendents of Mughals slowly faded away

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...et-struggles-feed-children.html#ixzz4jxH1GXHg

Indians cannot take any pride in their accomplishments, Pakistanis have the faint link of the conquerers giving them Islam and thus can feel some pride in Mughal Empire. Sadly this is like African Christians feeling pride in the British empire just because the British converted them to Christianity. Fortunately Africans know better than to think they will one day conquer the world again just because Christians conquered the world once...

Pakistani's are not identical to northern Indians nor are the vast majority decedent's of dalits. Take a look at a genetic map of Pakistani's. Pakistani's have far more eurasian/Indo Aryan make up then Northern indians.

 

[El Sidd]

Anyone can become fraud, anyone can become assassin, rapist etc. No matter how many bans or laws one make, there will still be such people. In ancient time, there was Ravana who was a king but was also a rapist. Rapists exist even today regardless of laws. That doesn't mean I approve of that nor have to tolerate that.

Likewise, making laws is never an option to win wars. It is simply that anyone who refuses to accept dharma will be considered at war with dharma and expelled from society and excluded from any protection of society like army, police etc.

I see you are you caught in a perpetual Yudh(Fight/Struggle).

Do you limit this to just a unique geographical area or is this a planet wide plan?

 

[Smarana Mitra]

India is still dependent on outside nations for military hardware, just like Pakistan.

No, India is not dependent on anyone for arms. India just wants to get latest technology - 5th generation ones from the 4th generation ones and hence try to get technology transfers or at least learn from foreign equipment. Nevertheless, India has 4th generation equipment manufacturing capabilities and is not dependent

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Even according to your own hindvta history, that is a LONG time to rule over Hindu majority! Point is, Jihad worked in India before and land of current India, with its monuments and forts and all the historic sites are ample proof of it. Who would deny this?

Jihad did work in the initial days as lot of things depend on psychology. India was having internal turmoil with Buddhism and other forms of spiritual revolution caused due to lack of external enemies. So, when external enemies came knocking, people didn't realize the threat posed. People didn't understand the concept of religion or prophet and holy books as Indians didn't see any sense in them. Moreover, in older times, rapid movement was very hard and hence it was relatively easy to invade when the people are not looking.

It was just like christians defeating and ruling over Muslims for last 1 century. UK conquered Turkey and imposed Ataturk who dismantled the caliphate and made Turkey secular. UK imposed Israel on Middle east and controlled middle east monarchies through arm twisting. Times change and according to that even smaller groups can overwhelm larger groups

 

[CrazyZ]

I don't know how people believe that kind of nonsense, most of Pakistan is genetically identical to North Indian groups, this is because all Pakistanis are descended from Indian who gave up their culture and converted to Islam.

Before Partition the area that is now Pakistan had more Aryan blood, but since then and the ensuing migration, this no longer holds true.

Yes yes genetic testing is non sense.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

India still hasn't developed a proper Military-Industrial complex due to corruption and still relies on Russian and Israel imports.

It has made inroads into developing its own tech but Indian for some reason Indian state arms manufacturers sell the weapons for a profit to Indian government.

India has started making Su30 in India, nuclear submarine, artillery, MLRS, SAM, BMD, missiles, ships etc are also made in India. Only some equipment like AESA radars are imported but that is also nearing indigenisation. Import is only for acquiring latest technology rather than compulsion

 

[CrazyZ]

What is an Indian?? In ancient history the subcontinent consisted of numerous warring states. Most Hindu empires eventually degenerated back into seperate warring states. The longest lasting empires with the most accomplishments in the region were Islamic empires. This is that fact the hindutva can't stomach.

 

[Meengla]

It is hilarious when Pakistanis pretend to be something they are not. Pakistanis are more or less Indians who were considered by Mughals and gave up their traditions. There are some very fair skinned Pakistans just like there are some very fair skinned Indians, but the majority look like this

Meanwhile

Perhaps Pakistani have on average slightly different DNA, just like Brits and Germans have sightly different DNA. But it sure doesn't show without expensive DNA analysis equipment.

You are correct on these things. I don't know why some people are so hung up on taking a mere 10-20% percent of Pakistan's population in K-P and Baluchistan to ignore that the vast majority of people in Sindh/Punjab--who form the bulk of the Pakistani population--are more similar to north Indians than any other ethnic group in the world. And why not? Just because the Partition happened in 1947 people who have been living adjacent to and in between each other would change?
Having said that--culturally Pakistanis are significantly different from Indians--and especially when it comes to using languages. I can't stand listening to Indians speaking in Hindi or English!!

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Jihad did work in the initial days as lot of things depend on psychology. India was having internal turmoil with Buddhism and other forms of spiritual revolution caused due to lack of external enemies. So, when external enemies came knocking, people didn't realize the threat posed. People didn't understand the concept of religion or prophet and holy books as Indians didn't see any sense in them. Moreover, in older times, rapid movement was very hard and hence it was relatively easy to invade when the people are not looking.

It was just like christians defeating and ruling over Muslims for last 1 century. UK conquered Turkey and imposed Ataturk who dismantled the caliphate and made Turkey secular. UK imposed Israel on Middle east and controlled middle east monarchies through arm twisting. Times change and according to that even smaller groups can overwhelm larger groups

Throughout history wars are won , nations have been subjugated, when odds favoured the conquering party. It's nothing new.

India is as divided as it was before, recent events are ample proof of that.