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Pakistan PM seeks int'l intervention in India violence

1192 is the date Islam really entered India. Though Sindh was invaded in 712, in 738, Chalukyas defeated Muslims decisively and ended the threat for some time.

After losing battle of Panipat, Marathas rose again to fight and destroy Muslims across India. In 1771, Marathas massacred Rohilakhand, expelled or killed muslim, attacked Punjab and captured it. Marathas were too big to be destroyed by one single battle.
So you find it an achievement to rule your own land? Its like someone lived in your house for the whole time and you get it back for a year and celebrate it! LOL! We ruled over you and we ruled over your entire land, and we will rule it again!
Marathas recaptured and ruled over their land for 100 odd years and then again got defeated by outsiders! Modern day India is just 75 years old, you can compare todays India with the Maratha empire! Happy now? But remember, you dont have much time remaining, we are coming back!
 
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As India counts dead, brutality of Hindu-Muslim riot emerges

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Associated Press•February 29, 2020


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In this Friday, Feb. 28, 2020, photo, Salman Ansari, 18, cries as he waits for his father's body to be handed over at Guru Teg Bahadur hospital in New Delhi, India. On the eve of U.S. President Donald Trump’s first state visit to India last Sunday, Hindus and Muslims in the Indian capital charged at each other with homemade guns and crude weapons, leaving the streets where the rioting occurred resembling a war zone, with houses, shops, mosques, schools and vehicles up in flames. Ansari said he was sleeping when two strangers dumped his father outside their home early Wednesday. He carted his father 3 kilometers (1.8 miles) on the family's rickshaw to a private clinic. The doctors demanded 5,000 rupees ($69). His pockets were empty. By the time Ansari managed to reach a public hospital, his father was dead. (AP Photo/Aniruddha Ghosal)

NEW DELHI (AP) — The wounded came in waves. First in ones and twos, limping up the steps and staggering through the aluminum doors, and then in wheelbarrows, with bleeding skulls and stabbed necks. Finally, the motorcycles and auto-rickshaws arrived, their seats stained with the blood of as many as they could hold.

As the Mustafabad neighborhood of India's capital was ravaged by communal riots for three days this week, the Al-Hind Hospital turned from a community clinic into a trauma ward.

Doctors like M.A. Anwar were for the first time dealing with injuries such as gunshot wounds, crushed skulls and torn genitals.

“I wanted to cry and scream,” he recalled. “Something inside of me died during those three days.”

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Almost a week after the clashes between Hindus and Muslims began, a clearer picture of the horrors inflicted during New Delhi's worst communal riots in decades has begun to emerge.

On the eve of President Donald Trump’s first state visit to India last Sunday, Hindus and Muslims in the Indian capital charged at each other with homemade guns and crude weapons, leaving the streets where the rioting occurred resembling a war zone, with houses, shops, mosques, schools and vehicles up in flames. At least 42 people were killed and hundreds more wounded.

Authorities have struggled to identify some of the bodies because of the gruesomeness of the injuries.

While both sides behaved brutally, most of the victims were Muslim.

Authorities haven't given an official account of what sparked the riots, though the violence appeared to be a culmination of growing tensions that followed the passage of a new citizenship law in December.

The law fast-tracks naturalization for some religious minorities from neighboring countries but not Muslims. Opponents say it violates India's secular constitution, and further marginalizes the 200 million Muslims in this Hindu-majority nation of 1.4 billion people.

The law spurred massive protests across India that left at least 23 dead.

But what unfolded in Mustafabad this week was far more brutal, with mobs hacking individuals with swords, burning people alive and bludgeoning people to death.

A Hindu intelligence bureau officer was repeatedly stabbed and his dead body thrown into a sewage drain that divides Hindu and Muslim residential areas. A Muslim man had his legs spread so far apart that the lower half of his body tore. His condition remained critical.

Questions have been raised about the role of the New Delhi police and whether they stood by while the violence raged or even aided the Hindu mobs.

A New Delhi police spokesman, Anil Mittal, denied that police had aided rioters.

Al-Hind hospital's doctors said authorities kept ambulances from reaching certain riot-hit places.

A little after midnight on Wednesday — more than 72 hours after the violence began — a New Delhi High Court passed an extraordinary order directing the police to provide safe passage for ambulances.

It was too late for many victims.

With streets taken over by the mobs and no way through for ambulances, Anwar knew early on that his clinic would soon be overcome with wounded.

Some slumped in plastic chairs as they draped gunshot-riddled arms and legs over tables.

Others just lay on the floor, bleeding.

Those who were there described the blood and chaos, but also shared oddly uplifting stories of teamwork and grit.

“We didn’t sleep. We didn’t eat anything. All we wanted to do was save lives. And we did,” said Aanis Mohammad, a volunteer at the clinic. “No patient of any religion was turned away.”

By mid-afternoon Wednesday as the violence came to an end, Anwar and his overwhelmed colleagues had treated more than 400 people and referred almost 100 to larger hospitals. Dozens, however, remained at the clinic in critical condition.

The hospital also gave refuge to those fleeing the violence, providing more than 50 people with food, bedding and safety.

Clean-up efforts in Mustafabad are underway but the scars are still visible.

At Guru Teg Bahadur hospital along New Delhi’s eastern border, 18-year-old Salman Ansari waited for his father's body to be handed over.

Ansari's father had gone out to collect scrap for money as there was no food in the house. After seeing police assurances on the news, he thought it would be safe. It wasn't.

Ansari said he was sleeping when two strangers dumped his father outside their home early Wednesday.

He carted his father 3 kilometers (1.8 miles) on the family's rickshaw to a private clinic. The doctors demanded 5,000 rupees ($69). His pockets were empty.

By the time Ansari managed to reach a public hospital, his father was dead.

For Anwar, the doctor, he said he eventually grew numb to the carnage. Yet he's still coming to grips with how fellow Indians could do what they did to one another.

“It's as if evil had pervaded and housed itself in the hearts of the mob,” he said.

___ Associated Press writer Aniruddha Ghosal contributed to this report.
 
He says in good faith but it will bear no fruit. The whole world is against Muslims and nobody cares about what happens to Muslims. Muslims need to pull their own weight, do it by themselves. No external help will arrive.

So you find it an achievement to rule your own land? Its like someone lived in your house for the whole time and you get it back for a year and celebrate it! LOL! We ruled over you and we ruled over your entire land, and we will rule it again!
Marathas recaptured and ruled over their land for 100 odd years and then again got defeated by outsiders! Modern day India is just 75 years old, you can compare todays India with the Maratha empire! Happy now? But remember, you dont have much time remaining, we are coming back!

They are looking to to create Ashoka's empire. Good luck with that.
 
Afghanistan is a muslim majority country. Afghanistan type jihad won't work in India. If you are so concerned, then take the 20 crores Muslims from India into your country



well you are the ones that stopped immigration from India to Pakistan in the 1970s...
 
Hindus have not been marginalised but the Muslims are a security threat and resource waste. Muslims in India are just foreign agents of Muslim ummah of 2 billion. So, Hindus are considering the 200 million Muslims as part of the 2 billion ummah, not just in isolation

So your solutions is to kill off 200 million people?, how do you sleep at night you racist bigot terrorist.
 
opinions, suggestions...yes, always and from anyone.
criticism and advise ...from qualified parties, yes.
intervention...na, FUggedabodit
As you sow so shall you reap.

Remember East Pakistan Intervention, PTM instigation attempts and what Kulbashan Jadev was upto. India doesnt hold a moral ground in interventions since thats what it did itself.

However the rate things are going Pakistan doesnt need to resort to same tactics and it doesnt need to get involved in any way. Modi and his goons are doing a perfect job of breaking the state.

Hopefully the Kashmirs get to decide their fate as they were promised.
 
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India has 172 million Muslims in 2011 and has 200 million Muslims today. India also has 110 million hindus and 50 million Sikhs, Buddhist, Jain and other indigenous faith people. Muslims just form 15% of population.

Who is the international community? Before any international community even thinks of intervention, they will have to find a way to accommodate 200 million refugees

Pakistan is recent country. Calling it as permanent is a joke. Why such nervousness?
15% as per your own fudged numbers..
int. community the same community that murdered your dreams in Afghanistan.
India is also a recent country..whats wrong with being recent?
 
IK statement is part of the diplomatic onslaught, which Pakistan is currently carrying out, against India. It shall be maintained and continued.
 
Mediation.
Intervention.

What do you think will be next?

Armistice

scales used for Pakistan are different than for India

IK statement is part of the diplomatic onslaught, which Pakistan is currently carrying out, against India. It shall be maintained and continued.

louder Imran gets, surer you can be that IMF has sent a msg. Watch your purses and wallets

As you sow so shall you reap.

Remember East Pakistan Intervention, PTM instigation attempts and what Kulbashan Jadev was upto. India doesnt hold a moral ground in interventions since thats what it did itself.

However the rate things are going Pakistan doesnt need to resort to same tactics and it doesnt need to get involved in any way. Modi and his goons are doing a perfect job of breaking the state.

Hopefully the Kashmirs get to decide their fate as they were promised.

1st para - true
2nd para - ill informed
3rd para - good, don't
4th para - done and dusted. catch up.
 
Hindus have not been marginalised but the Muslims are a security threat and resource waste. Muslims in India are just foreign agents of Muslim ummah of 2 billion. So, Hindus are considering the 200 million Muslims as part of the 2 billion ummah, not just in isolation

If this is really the intellectual position of even 1% of Indian Hindus then May God Save India!

Already, what is going on in India is going to make more and more Indian Muslims alienate from India. A sizable alienated population is a breeding ground for separatists and agents of foreign agencies. Your comment is being read by your fellow Indian Muslims on this forum--a lot of them have been hard on Pakistan. Maybe they are the kind of 'well adjusted' people who in any minority of the world are quite willing to overlook their fellows' misery. Maybe they really believe in India. Maybe they are afraid of speaking their minds. BUT your comments are not helping their position in India or India itself. Any minority of 200 million+ strong is capable of a lot damage to the host country!! What if they do decide to migrate in regions closer to Bangladesh or Pakistan and become majorities there?!!

PS. I used to think that the likes of Zaid Hamid of Pakistan are nut jobs. But there now seems more credence to his narrative that the Right Wing Hindus indeed want to undo some real or perceived harm done to them by the Muslim rule in India.
 
International community won't get involved. Hindutva have been emboldened and will do this again...this caa drama has only started. Muslims in India are gonna have to get organized and ready. Only country that will help you is Pakistan.
 

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