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Why are so many Indians scared of Pakistan when pakistan is much smaller than India???

Pakistan on steroids:rofl:


Author: Rajiv Dogra

Despite being a terror-sponsoring state, Pakistan has America wrapped around its fingers. This means it will be back to the past in Afghanistan.

From the very beginning Pakistan has suffered from a confusion of identities. A single mesmerising bond apart, it is otherwise a mish-mash of conflicting regional interests and contrasting ethnicities. Yet, throughout its short history Pakistan has bewildered its critics by lurching from crisis to crisis, but surviving somehow. Rather, it seems to have emerged militarily charged after every trial. That’s why Pakistan’s Army chiefs and its military dictators have invariably exercised unbridled control over the country.

Pakistan’s current Army chief, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, has gone a step beyond his predecessors; like them he has absolute power within the country, but he adds to that with an awesome aura over the Americans too. They address their most important appeals to him rather the civilian Government. It may have been in recognition of this reality that the former US President George W Bush said in Mumbai recently, “Pakistan is a very dangerous place.”

He added that American patience with it is wearing thin. That may be so, but in so far as Pakistan is concerned that does not deter its current ambitions. Pakistan’s Army, because nothing else is crucial to strategy making there, is determined not to miss their big chance. As Mr Bush also said in Mumbai, “timing is crucial in making history”. The Pakistani Army is convinced that history beckons it now; that its moment in Afghanistan has arrived, that its success there is directly proportional to American withdrawal. And they may not be wrong in that assessment.

There was a time after the USSR’s withdrawal from Afghanistan when the average Pakistani truly believed that it was responsible for the defeat and subsequent disintegration of a superpower. For that reason Pakistan’s Prime Minister of the time, Mr Nawaz Sharif, was often called ‘Fateh Kabul’, the vanquisher of Kabul. As and when America pulls out its troops, largely or completely, from Afghanistan, the people of Pakistan might take it as the final proof that they are directly, or indirectly, responsible for the defeat of two superpowers and their eventual decline. Pakistan would be on steroids then.

That would spur it on to further glory. In that case, Afghanistan may turn out to be just the first step in Pakistan’s larger and more ambitious agenda. Its Taliban surrogates had set their eyes on domination of Central Asia when they had first installed their regime in Kabul. They may even have succeeded then but for 9/11; Tajikistan was engaged in a bloody civil war, the radical fringe there was just a whisker short of victory, and Uzbekistan was balanced uneasily with the Hizb cadre lurking menacingly in Fergana valley. The Central Asian regimes and their security systems have gathered strength since then, but the message of radical Islam is potent among the masses.

Pakistan’s interest in Central Asia is not just religion-driven. The domination of raw material and energy resources figures prominently in its calculations. China has already established a wide network that ensures large amounts of oil and gas supply to it from Central Asia. Once Pakistan is established there the region may well transform into their joint strategic backyard. But why should anyone grudge Pakistan its desire to control fully or partially the energy and raw material resources in its neighbourhood? After all, it will only be putting into practice the tactics that it has learnt from US.

That, indeed, is the irony of the relationship. The US may set the agenda, but Pakistan invariably manoeuvres the results. Despite an outward show of compliance, Pakistan is the decisive factor in this relationship. As the neck is to a face, Pakistan has invariably determined the direction in which America should turn. The latest case in point is Ms **Hillary Clinton’s visit to Pakistan. She had gone there accompanied by the defence and intelligence brass on a mission to force compliance, but Pakistani Generals seem to have stared them down.

This is not the only instance of Pakistani adamancy, in fact in every collaboration it has extracted the maximum — financially, materially and militarily. During their joint operations in the 1980s against the Soviet forces in Afghanistan, Pakistan had ensured that the US flooded it with military equipment of all types, and helped in building up a highly motivated cadre which the world would later come to know as the Taliban.

Since then Pakistan has been in denial; of producing cadre of terror as in a hatchery, of funding them, of selecting targets for them to attack, of nuclear proliferation and of running drugs internationally. Whenever the international society has confronted it with evidence of its complicity, it talks its way out brazenly.

Iraq was bombed mercilessly for far less and Muammar Gadaffi consigned to brutal death for reasons that remain opaque. Now Iran is on watch for its supposed nuclear status. But Pakistan manages consistently to escape censure. It has crossed and re-crossed the nuclear Rubicon at will, it has broken almost every norm of diplomatic behaviour, and it stonewalls all queries about the misdoings of its ISI. Yet it faces no opprobrium.

The question that the international community often asks itself is this: How is it that Pakistan is able to get away with being dangerous to the rest of the world? Its footprint is clearly linked to terror strikes in most parts of the world. As former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown said, “Seventy per cent of terror plots in the UK have their source in Pakistan.” There may be a pause currently in terror attacks, but it is tactical and temporary.

Pakistan’s current attention is focussed fully on Afghanistan. All terror activity is concentrated there with the single objective of making life difficult for the ISAF. Though Mr Bush maintained in Mumbai that “American patience with Pakistan is wearing thin”, the harsh reality is that Pakistan doesn’t care. It knows that with the presidential election in the US drawing near, President Barack Obama can’t escalate the war in Afghanistan. He will simply not be able to justify an increase in body bags to America. More crucially, Pakistan is convinced that America won’t be able to take it on militarily. The Pakistani Army has been so richly equipped and trained by the US that its soldiers may prove to be an equal match for any military force.

Whether the world likes it or not, Pakistani governorship of Afghanistan is more or less a given. The point to ponder is: What thereafter? Will a Pakistani-Chinese axis lead to further military adventures? In its current state of financial helplessness the Western world may not have either the resources or the will to confront the Pakistan-Chinese juggernaut. Pakistan would be on a confrontational high consequently, crushing dissent internally and menacing all outside. Mr Bush’s assertion that “Pakistan is a dangerous place” may seem like an understatement then.

(The writer is a former Ambassador.)(who are supposed to know a thing or two eh??:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:: :pakistan:

http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/item/50726-pakistan-on-steroids.html
 
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So you accept all this as fact? No denials? You should be pretty worried at the direction your country is taking and not be getting a high after reading that article! Are you proud of the fact that the world is calling Pakistan 'the fountainhead of terror' and 'the most dangerous place on Earth'? Instead of gloating you should snicker away in shame! But you seem to be extremely proud of this adverse world opinion of Pakistan. Can you dub all this as Pakistan's 'achievements' of the 21st century?

And your title needs a change. Nowhere does it say that 'Indian x ambassador scared of pakistan'. Stop trying to sensationalize your titles for getting more eyeballs.

Can we request the mods to please change the title? It really sucks! :tdown:
 
I just skimmed the rest after reading Bush being cited as the paragon of geopolitical wisdom.

There is nothing of substance in the article; just rehashed opinions spiced with silly quotes by Dubya.
 
^^^ dude what do us Indians or western countries know to comment on Pakistan, Those titles are actually supposed to be great achievements for them, They will rule over Central Asia / Afg - victors facing two superpowers.

they are directly, or indirectly, responsible for the defeat of two superpowers and their eventual decline.

Since then Pakistan has been in denial; of producing cadre of terror as in a hatchery, of funding them, of selecting targets for them to attack, of nuclear proliferation and of running drugs internationally. Whenever the international society has confronted it with evidence of its complicity, it talks its way out brazenly.
 
And your title needs a change. Nowhere does it say that 'Indian x ambassador scared of pakistan'. Stop trying to sensationalize your titles for getting more eyeballs.

The title is actually accurate. This clueless ambassador pees in his pants with his fanciful paranoia. Pakistan wants to rule the CARs?

And his ignorance is demonstrated by the fact that drug production declined significantly while the Taliban were in power. It jumped up again after the US invasion, and the biggest drug baron in the region was none other than Karzai's brother in law.
 
The title is actually accurate. This clueless ambassador pees in his pants with his fanciful paranoia. Pakistan wants to rule the CARs?

And his ignorance is demonstrated by the fact that drug production declined significantly while the Taliban were in power. It jumped up again after the US invasion, and the biggest drug baron in the region was none other than Karzai's brother in law.

exactly the point i was making was that you would think that and ambassador?? saying these things?? is he paronoid or what. I actually thought it funny. I mean guys if we had put something like that up you would have laughed us off the forum but this guy-former ambassador???
 
The title is actually accurate. This clueless ambassador pees in his pants with his fanciful paranoia. Pakistan wants to rule the CARs?

And his ignorance is demonstrated by the fact that drug production declined significantly while the Taliban were in power. It jumped up again after the US invasion, and the biggest drug baron in the region was none other than Karzai's brother in law.

The title implies that the ex ambassador is personally scared of Pakistan, when the fact is he is more concerned of the future situation that may develop. It might be paranoia but no where it says he is scared of Pakistan.
 
exactly the point i was making was that you would think that and ambassador?? saying these things?? is he paronoid or what. I actually thought it funny. I mean guys if we had put something like that up you would have laughed us off the forum but this guy-former ambassador???

Considering that a minister was slapped in Public in India.. not all Indian government employees have been good at their job..or known what they are talking about.

Moreover.. what will get an article read, mundane "All's quiet on the western front"... or "WOLF!"??
 
exactly the point i was making was that you would think that and ambassador?? saying these things?? is he paronoid or what. I actually thought it funny. I mean guys if we had put something like that up you would have laughed us off the forum but this guy-former ambassador???

Yeah, I started skimming after the Bush quote.

The title implies that the ex ambassador is personally scared of Pakistan, when the fact is he is more concerned of the future situation that may develop. It might be paranoia but no where it says he is scared of Pakistan.

Oh well. I didn't read it as 'personally scared'. Why would he be scared for his personal safety?
 
^^^ OK what does Indian Ambassador scared of Pakistan mean?

On topic the article does give an insight into where PK already is and where its heading and what is China's role vis a vis PK. Good Read, most is already known. But PK being the center for CAR nations is a new factor, highly unlikely cos of Russia's stronghold.
 
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