Pakistan is India's part: Mohan Bhagwat

[karakoram]

me from islamabad
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[bongbang]

 

[dil_dil]

@Pakistani shaheens

The issue is not about India (btw its Akhand Bharat ..... there is no r in there) disintegrating.

The issue is that Pakistan is a an unnatural, artificial and a forced construct. Which would disintegrate further before a stable natural equilibrium is achieved.

The first step toward that was Bangladesh. There was zero connect between the Bengalis and the Punjabis.

The next is what we are seeing in terms of the turmoil in Pakistan over the past decade, gradually going worse. Point of fact of the matter being that there is absolutely no connect between the Punjabi and the Pashtun. Or indeed the Punjabi and the Baloch.

The Pashtun belt is naturally and historically and genetically (and dare I say spiritually) aligned with the Afghans, the cusp state between the Indian and the Persian civilizations. While the Baloch are almost wholly Iranic and have zero connect with the Indic Punjabi.

Bottom line is that when you separated from us, what you took with you that was naturally ours (both of us together) ended at the eastern banks of the Indus.

From the western bank and beyond was never really yours. And the equilibrium is in the process of being found.

Bhai only chuhras in Pakistan cluster with Indians genetically. See here, not even north indians cluster with any **** group.

So forget about genetics, and i feel closer to our Bengalis bros then Indians. And no contact between pashtuns and punjabis haha its clear you have no idea what are you writing about.

 

[bongbang]

Bhai only chuhras in Pakistan cluster with Indians genetically. See here, not even north indians cluster with any **** group.

So forget about genetics, and i feel closer to our Bengalis bros then Indians. And no contact between pashtuns and punjabis haha its clear you have no idea what are you writing about.

What is the genetic data source?

 

[bongbang]

WAT does UR NAME MEAN

Nothing
Bong bongo Bengle Bangladesh is our land name
Big bang => Bong bang
Bongbang(ladesh)

 

[doppelganger]

And another bad thing about indians is that they are all under inferiority complex.

I am sorry brother, but I am glad you brought up this point so I got the opportunity to clear my doubt. I have heard this same line from many Pakistanis, and I was like duh, hello! Bro, can you tell me one thing where Indian needs to feel inferior to Pakistanis about? I mean we are guests here so obviously we need to be polite and down to earth and humble, but seriously. Are you as a people or a country even in the same ballpark in any field? I mean, yes we are still a developing country, like you are, but do you even realize the ever growing gulf that separates us? I mean, I did not know you guys spoke English till I came here, having only heard your cricketers and hockey players give interviews on TV. Then I learned from my brother's friend that you also actually have medical colleges in Pakistan. Till then I thought all your doctors were foreign trained. Then I read somewhere about you guys having Pizza Hut and Burger King. I thought it was a hoax or satire, till I discovered that in some places you actually do have these there. Believe me when I tell you that 99.9% of young Indians like me have a certain attitude about you guys. And its very very diametrically opposite to an inferiority complex. Me personally, I look at Pakistan as either very rural very vernacular Punjabis in the Lahore belt or immigrant Sindhis and Biharis in Karachi belt, or the fair skinned bearded types in the NW and Baloch belts.

Peace (to the rest of your post).

 

[Samandri]

O dil jeet liya lalay :-D:-D:-D btw this hindu dont know how many pathans are their on pdf kicking their ***. Meri he misaal laay i am pathan :-D

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Pakthuns are more similar to Pakistanis than afghans. Even if we have any similarities with afghans then its beacuse of the fact that they are our neighbours and plus we were one country under Durrani and other empires. And secondly there is a hell of a difference between Pakthuns and afghans. Their food, customs and even language everything is different. And historically speaking as i said earlier Pakistan and afghanistan were united under many empires in past, so we have abit of same history, If you dont believe me then ask any Pakthun member here on PDF they will clear your misconception.

Thats not true. Pashtuns of both Afghanistan and Pakistan are linguistically, culturally and racially one and same people. The customs , cuisine, dress etc in entire pashtun belt are also remarkably homogenous. I dont know from where you are getting the idea that the pashtuns in two countries are speaking two different versions of Pashto. Who told you that?. There are two main dialects of pashto and they are not distributed as eastern (pakistani) and western (Afghanistan's) but rather northern (hard kheen dialect) and southren (soft sheen dialect). i.e if you go from east in pakistan to west in afghanistan, the pashto dialect would be same but if you go from north to south within pakistan or witin afghanistan, the dialect would change. Not just that, across the entire length of durnad line, mostly people of same tribe are living on both sides of border e.g wazirs live in wana (pakistan) as well as birmal (afghanistan). The tribal customary laws of pashtun society and traditions are same in pashtun areas of both Pakistan and afghanistan. e.g if pashtuns of bannu celebrate "istam" on 27th ramadan. the pashtun of paktiya is also celbreating it. If Pashtun of pakistan has custom of "zairay", the ones of Afghanistan side also have it.
doppelganger

 

[PakGuns]

Sir can I ask you one question?
What's ancient india?

So you guys will gonna invade these areas in future by sending your armies or you guys will rely on proxie wars as your intelligence agencies are already doing in Af-Pak region.


And I will be COAS and will soon declare martial law and will take over as new ruler of Greater Pakistan and will send all yindus into Mars where they belongs!

their history shows that they had traveled through space ...they will be leaving for MARS soon after GREATER PAKISTAN.. for a GREATEST INDIA exist there...

 

[doppelganger]

Thanks you for the contribution @Samandri

My earlier point was very simple, based not only on what I have read or seen (here and on other forums), but also on what I know to be the same about similar strongly fiercely tight knit tribal structures and constructs elsewhere.

Bottom line is that Pakistan is an artificial forced construct based on the oneness of Islam (out of the original Indian people). But in trying to internalize the Pashtun belt, it (the concept of Pakistan) butts heads against a far stronger and much more primal bond. One that has and is always going to have primacy over the oneness of Islam. And that is their tribal code of Pashtunwali. Its ancient, and predates Islam by quite a bit. And that I guess is what we are seeing today in Pakistan.

In a conflict between the concept of Pakistan (single and exclusive Muslim peoplehood of and from within India) and the ties of Pashtunwali, there is always going to be only one victor. And that is before you even consider that the Pashtuns as a people have traditionally never seen themselves as Indic people ever by blood. Politics by conquest in fits and starts down history does not count for anything in such a scenario then .