Pak Army Uniform undergoing major redesigning.

[Tiki Tam Tam]

I think u meant pifers

My mistake.

It should be Frontier Force Regiment (popularly known as the "Piffers" or the "FF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontier_Force_Regiment

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

whats a pifer?

Frontier Force Regiment is popularly known as the "Piffers" or the "FF.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

whats a pifer?

The Frontier Force Regiment is Pakistan's third oldest regiment after the Punjab and Baloch. The regiment was raised in 1957 through the amalgamation of three Pakistan Army regiments, all with their origins in two regiments which had been transferred to Pakistan from the British Indian Army at the time of the partition of India in 1947. These two regiments were the Frontier Force Regiment and the Frontier Force Rifles. The third component, the Pathan Regiment, had been raised after partition from elements of the former two. The merger took place when a major reorganisation of regiments was carried out in the Pakistan Army.[1]

The FF battalions took active part not only in battles on Pakistan's borders but also served extensively overseas, in Saudi Arabia, and as part of United Nations peacekeeping operations in Somalia. In Somalia, some of the Piffer battalions also participated in the world renowned operations of Battle of Mogadishu (1993).[3] This battle history earned Piffers two Nishan-e-Haider,[4] the highest gallantry award in Pakistan, and many other awards too.

The battalions are divided under independent formations and are commanded by their formation commander. The training and record keeping is done by the regimental depot, which is usually commanded by an officer of the rank Brigadier. The regiment's highest ranking officer is given the honorary title of "Colonel Commandant" and Colonel-in-Chief, if the highest ranking officer is the Chief of Army Staff.
[edit] Origins
Muhammad Ali Jinnah, the founder of Pakistan, meeting with officers of 6th Bn, Frontier Force Rifles (Now 1st FF).

The Frontier Force Regiment came into being in 1957 with the amalgamation of the Frontier Force Regiment, the Frontier Force Rifles and the Pathan Regiment, all of which had their origins in the British Indian Army. During the 1840s, after the first and second Anglo-Sikh Wars, Colonel Sir Henry Lawrence, the Honourable East India Company's agent to the Lahore Durbar (brother of the later Lieutenant-Governor of the Punjab Sir John Lawrence, 1st Baron Lawrence) sanctioned the raising of the Corps of Guides and a number of infantry regiments by incorporating veterans from the disbanded Sikh Khalsa army. During the early 1850s some of Lawrence's Sikh regiments were designated the "Punjab Irregular Force", giving rise to the "Piffer" nickname which the Regiment carries to the present day, and through a series of reorganisations that culminated in 1922, these units would eventually become the 12th Frontier Force Regiment and 13th Frontier Force Rifles. The use of the pre-fixing regimental numbers was discontinued in 1945, the two regiments becoming the Frontier Force Regiment and the Frontier Force Rifles, and both regiments were transferred to Pakistan by the United Kingdom in 1947, on the granting of independence to British India.[1][5]

The Pathan Regiment was raised after partition from the 4th battalion of the Frontier Force Regiment and the 4th and 15th battalions of the Frontier Force Rifles. Initially the regimental depot was at Dera Ismail Khan but it relocated to Kohat in 1949 and was later merged into the Frontier Force Regiment with its regimental depot at Abbottabad.[6] Fifteen of the modern Frontier Force Regiment's 52 battalions trace their origins back to British Indian Army units.

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[fatman17]

this is a thread about uniforms not regiments. pl stay on the subject

 

[TaimiKhan]

aaahhhh, atlast the news come up, i was eagerly holding to the news for quiet a few months now

Anyway, the new uniform would be coming from reputable organizations, that is and was the proposal, hope its not changed. Lawrencepur & Bonanza brand makers are hopefully gonna be the makers of the uniform. It may be coming in pre-stitched form with different sizes, the soldiers might not need to get plain cloth and then get it stitched, so lets see what's the final outcome.

And digital camo was one of the proposal, but don't know if it has been changed to the current camo scheme as kakgeta mentioned.

This would be the combat uniform or field uniform and hopefully the old Khaki uniform will continue for office / official use and stuff like that.

But i do have doubts if this camo scheme is gonna be good in the desert terrain.

I do hope, they give it a good amount of time in designing by keeping all factors infront of them and digital camo should be kept, plus the placing of ranks like the American combat uniform is not advised. The shoulder one is good, just bring in digital pattern and a few other changes.

 

[Icarus]

aaahhhh, atlast the news come up, i was eagerly holding to the news for quiet a few months now

Anyway, the new uniform would be coming from reputable organizations, that is and was the proposal, hope its not changed. Lawrencepur & Bonanza brand makers are hopefully gonna be the makers of the uniform. It may be coming in pre-stitched form with different sizes, the soldiers might not need to get plain cloth and then get it stitched, so lets see what's the final outcome.

And digital camo was one of the proposal, but don't know if it has been changed to the current camo scheme as kakgeta mentioned.

This would be the combat uniform or field uniform and hopefully the old Khaki uniform will continue for office / official use and stuff like that.

But i do have doubts if this camo scheme is gonna be good in the desert terrain.

I do hope, they give it a good amount of time in designing by keeping all factors infront of them and digital camo should be kept, plus the placing of ranks like the American combat uniform is not advised. The shoulder one is good, just bring in digital pattern and a few other changes.

Intensity of colour of the camo changes with the terrain in which it is to be used. In kashmir, everybody wears a uniform similar to the SSG, which is extremely dark, whereas in deserts, the colours are lighter and khaki is more prominent in the desert scheme.

 

[alibaz]

I hope they change the golden sash thingy worn on the waist with SD... Tht looks ugly..

I heard its no more worn now

 

[TaimiKhan]

Intensity of colour of the camo changes with the terrain in which it is to be used. In kashmir, everybody wears a uniform similar to the SSG, which is extremely dark, whereas in deserts, the colours are lighter and khaki is more prominent in the desert scheme.

Well i know we are financially weak, but had it been upto me and pockets allowed, i would have gone for different digital camo uniforms as per the requirement of the terrain, how the Chinese have employed and how the US has done.

And will also definitely bring digital camos as per the requirements of the Navy and Air force, real camo ones not the ones which they use, which is useless in many scenarios.

 

[Xeric]

New uniform note the 3 star rank.

Yup, that;s the new uniform, but the Pakistani Flag and the formation sign are different, they are place on the same strip and attached with velcaro. Also other insignias like Koh Paima, Gliding etc would be on a single strip attached with velcaro on the right arm.

No more shoulder ranks but they would be placed on the front of the shirt. Khaki uniform is also gone.

 

[Xeric]

Changes are expected to take effect by the end of this year.

It is already in effect.

 

[TaimiKhan]

Very disappointed, a disappointing uniform.

Whoever designed this or gave the idea, i wish i could get my hands on him and give him a good thrashing.

Duniya kahan jaa rahi hai and we are still copying others instead of coming with something original.

 

[glad]

looking at the title i thought...pak army was introducing some changes in camos like digi camos.....does pak army use digi camos..?

I thing Pak army used Digi camos.?

 

[Jango]

I thing Pak army used Digi camos.?

sorry to bust your bubble, but they dont.

 

[Xeric]

The Pak Flag was supposed to be green. Previously it was decided that the flag would be in gray color, but concerns were shown and it was decided to keep the flag in green, but i think they still have changed it.

 

[Icarus]

Well i know we are financially weak, but had it been upto me and pockets allowed, i would have gone for different digital camo uniforms as per the requirement of the terrain, how the Chinese have employed and how the US has done.

And will also definitely bring digital camos as per the requirements of the Navy and Air force, real camo ones not the ones which they use, which is useless in many scenarios.

Indeed, I once pointed out to relevant authorities that the Airforce land based force has blue as a part of their camo scheme. Blue, in case you may be wondering, makes pathetic camouflage, but the blue colour is near sacred to them. They would rather have pathetic camo than to omit the colour blue from their uniform.

As far as digital camo like MARPAT goes, it was once considered but it's no surprise that our finances and along with them, our options have gone downhill pretty fast.