breaking newsAre we forgetting Air lift of Konduz now?
nasa discovered life on mars as well,
whats next? you going to blame us for the insurgencies in india as well?
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breaking newsAre we forgetting Air lift of Konduz now?
We are in the process of mining it. To effectively seal it we need more funds. Secondly the mountainous areas are the Achilles heel. Not that easy.I don't understand why havn't you mine the border and or seal it with a fence at least? Civilians will know not to cross the fence as its mined. The terrorist will try to cross it and that's when they'll get killed.
The civilian government has issued the order and that's why you see the operation. If the military was THAT independent, it would've happened a long time ago. Military again in power means Pakistan will go back to 80's and probably will never become a good strong economy. I can pretty much assure you of that much and the military knows it too. Even in the US, our military leaders would do everything with firepower but they have to get orders from the civilian commander-in-chief. That's where the buck stops, a civilian premier.
PA already knows whats going to happen once the west leaves Afghanistan. The current operation is part of that puzzle.Let the Afghans do what they do, if they require some minor assistance, we should oblige. No need to stick our paddle in again, we should learn from out past, the way to deal with an unstable Afghanistan is not to add a third unstable element of Pakistani backing.
Allow them to put their house in order, while we do ours, if 10 years down the line, after we've watched closely what develops, then we can decide our approach. It's not wise to bet on any approach too heavy handedly before we see what happens there after Western focus shifts.
Secondly, I'm not suggesting a military take over, what I am suggesting is the military does the same like it did for this operation and the Jordanian F16's. Put it's foot down, ask the civilian govt to pull up it's pants / shalwar, and do something for a change!!! How long are we going to turn a blind eye to a serious crisis like this?
You comparing the US to Pakistan doesn't work, in our neck of the woods the politicians are extra ordinarily corrupt. You tell me what you guys do with a politician who had more assets outside the US, than in it?
Thirdly, not that I'm in favor of military rule, but you can't deny the economy was in a much better shape under military rule.
1) Do you really think the military didn't have blessing from the civilian government or involvement from to purchase a state to state fighter jet deal? You don't think the US State Department was involved in it too along with Pentagon and others? And why do you think the deal went through......partly BECAUSE of a democratic system getting strengthened in Pakistan. Its naive to think the military put its pants on and went on a state to state shopping spree. Other countries don't care and don't want to deal with any generals when it comes to state to state deals. It's the government in place that allows for that to happen.
People with X-military or who's family served in the military in Pakistan don't think that's the case.
2) I am not doing any comparisons that are wrong actually. There are a TON of US politicians that get lobby money and all and many have assets outside the US. The US laws allow for it as long as you list them and pay taxes right.
3) Economy was in a "much" better shape....when? Oh wait, the 11 Billion sent for the people was being wasted by a few elected ones and their favorites were running contracts. That's called economy was much stronger? With the exception of shipping and transportation industry (Thanks to the US military), what else happened? Let's write down a list of ALL BIG projects that the generals did and all big projects that the civilian government has undertaken since it started. I'll let the facts speak.
At the end, I am giving up on you guys. It seems as you guys have no care for democracy and don't even understand democratic values. That's why your culture is too intolerant, if you don't like someone, go kill him or turn violent, etc, etc.
That's why, you need two-three cycles of uninterrupted civilian governments finishing up their cycles. At the end, you'll understand the difference of dictatorship vs. civilian governments.
PAF does not use it against it's own people, it uses it against foreign funded terrorists. Didn't the millions of foreign currency recovered in the ongoing operation give you a clue?I find this term "precision strikes" very offensive. Both pak army and ANA shouldnt use air strikes on their own people, it is against geneva convention.
I find this term "precision strikes" very offensive. Both pak army and ANA shouldnt use air strikes on their own people, it is against geneva convention.
obviously we will also launch cross country operations to neutralize. But Armstrong is right. Let these crack heads kill eachother we just need to make sure our borders are properly mined, fenced and protected by armed forces.Agreed.
But if attacks from Kunr continue, there will be strong voices in Pakistan to taken action.
and why should we care? let that be good for them with lots of goodluck from our side.A bunch of A-29s and old mi-35s .. the offensive capability of afghan airforce.. in future.
The new army chief is not capable, he is nalaiq and cruel person. He is ready to bomb some villages in bajaur in reteliation of attack from across the border, even though a simple searching of suspected houses could have served the purpose. This nalaiq general is much like tikka khan, where is counter-insurgency tactics? Winning of hearts and minds?. Knee jerk reaction to taliban attacks aur "eintt sey eintt baja dena" only works for some time. It has adverse affects in long term. In our part of world, people remember the insults and wait even for decades for right oppurtunity to take revenge. Mix this with an ideology and a gurrella group with unconventional tactics, who can easily go into hibernation and create trouble at some other time.Unfortunately, be it civil or military, we don't have the luxury of leaders who have the guts to do that. The current COAS has so far proved himself to be quite capable in putting the impotent civilian leadership in its place. Afghanistan will be the acid test that will define his tenure.
Israel use the same logic, against hamas 'terrorists'Against terrorists its fair game.
The new army chief is not capable, he is nalaiq and cruel person. He is ready to bomb some villages in bajaur in reteliation of attack from across the border, even though a simple searching of suspected houses could have served the purpose. This nalaiq general is much like tikka khan, where is counter-insurgency tactics? Winning of hearts and minds?. Knee jerk reaction to taliban attacks aur "eintt sey eintt baja dena" only works for some time. It has adverse affects in long term. In our part of world, people remember the insults and wait even for decades for right oppurtunity to take revenge. Mix this with an ideology and a gurrella group with unconventional tactics, who can easily go into hibernation and create trouble at some other time.
The new army chief is not capable, he is nalaiq and cruel person. He is ready to bomb some villages in bajaur in reteliation of attack from across the border, even though a simple searching of suspected houses could have served the purpose. This nalaiq general is much like tikka khan, where is counter-insurgency tactics? Winning of hearts and minds?. Knee jerk reaction to taliban attacks aur "eintt sey eintt baja dena" only works for some time. It has adverse affects in long term. In our part of world, people remember the insults and wait even for decades for right oppurtunity to take revenge. Mix this with an ideology and a gurrella group with unconventional tactics, who can easily go into hibernation and create trouble at some other time.
Israel use the same logic, against hamas 'terrorists'