Owaisi Brothers : Agent provocateurs of BJP/RSS/Hinduwadis

[Galaxy D]

Religious freedom is concept adopted by west and later by India. How can you blame Muslim Indians for secularism adopted my majority Hindus.

Islamic nation don't allow Muslims to convert to other religion because why would you let them abandon true religion and adopt a false one.

India was a rich country during 800 years of Islamic rule. Look at it now.

Your mind is filled with hate. Let's stop the religious discussion here.

I have no intention of discussing religion with you, only debating your hypocricy.

First you claim "religious freedom" for conversion and now you claim its "western concept" unpalatable to you and islam.

India was definitely not a rich country during islamic rule. The average Indian was way more poor than the average european or persian or chinese or Japanese. Worse we Hindus were captured and sold as slaves on a regular basis during the islaimc rule. Our Temples and our educational institutions destroyed and our culture and values made orphans.

Its shocking that you should make such absurd and false claims about Islamic rule and then go on to claim that MY mind is filled with hate. You are one sick guy.

Opposing Islam does not mean, there is a hate..It means, whatever good or bad..we love our religion...Life is much more than just feeling proud about religion...

Let us move on guys..You seems to be a sane guy..I do not want you to be banned by PDF moderator for discussing religious things

You find him sane ?

 

[SIPRA]

Let us move on guys..You seems to be a sane guy..I do not want you to be banned by PDF moderator for discussing religious things

A sane advice; if people have the sense to follow it. This is not an appropriate forum for discussing religion.

 

[Riyaz Syed]

Opposing Islam does not mean, there is a hate..It means, whatever good or bad..we love our religion...Life is much more than just feeling proud about religion...

He is hateful hinduwadi.

If Islamic nations are so hateful then why are crores of Hindus make their living over there.

Islamic nations have their rules. Secular one theirs.

How can we compare the two? He has a sanghi agenda.

 

[Kaniska]

I have no intention of discussing religion with you, only debating your hypocricy.

First you claim "religious freedom" for conversion and now you claim its "western concept" unpalatable to you and islam.

India was definitely not a rich country during islamic rule. The average Indian was way more poor than the average european or persian or chinese or Japanese. Worse we Hindus were captured and sold as slaves on a regular basis during the islaimc rule. Our Temples and our educational institutions destroyed and our culture and values made orphans.

Its shocking that you should make such absurd and false claims about Islamic rule and then go on to claim that MY mind is filled with hate. You are one sick guy.



You find him sane ?

Yes...As long as he does not insult our country and love his religion without insulting mine, i consider him sane..

 

[SIPRA]

@waz
@Arsalan
@Dubious

Posters are doing unnecessary and futile religious discussion on this thread.

 

[Galaxy D]

He is hateful hinduwadi.

If Islamic nations are so hateful then why are crores of Hindus make their living over there.

Islamic nations have their rules. Secular one theirs.

How can we compare the two? He has a sanghi agenda.

WOW ... again with the name calling "Hinduwadi".

Why not just call me Kafir and be done with it ? Why create such tag names for ordinary Hindus ?

Islamic nations were sandy deserts with camels and tents before Hindus (Indians) went there are made it into what you see today. Without the Hindus, they would still be living in tents and riding camels.

Also we are making our working there and making a living, not on charity, but on competence and on sweat and blood.

So spare us your imaginary moral high ground.

Yes...As long as he does not insult our country and love his religion without insulting mine, i consider him sane..

What part of claiming polytheism was wrong is not insulting ? Which part of 'idol worship' instead of Deity worship is not insulting ?

In a previous thread he was claiming that we have a responsibility towards illegal BD because we helped create BD.

That is like claiming that just because you help a rape victim, you are now the father of her child.

Does that sound sane ?

 

[Dubious]

Leave religion out of your discussions

Dont break forum rules if you dont intend to get banned!

 

[Mamadouso]

He is hateful hinduwadi.

If Islamic nations are so hateful then why are crores of Hindus make their living over there.

Islamic nations have their rules. Secular one theirs.

How can we compare the two? He has a sanghi agenda.

WOW ... again with the name calling "Hinduwadi".

Why not just call me Kafir and be done with it ? Why create such tag names for ordinary Hindus ?

Islamic nations were sandy deserts with camels and tents before Hindus (Indians) went there are made it into what you see today. Without the Hindus, they would still be living in tents and riding camels.

Also we are making our working there and making a living, not on charity, but on competence and on sweat and blood.

So spare us your imaginary moral high ground.



What part of claiming polytheism was wrong is not insulting ? Which part of 'idol worship' instead of Deity worship is not insulting ?

That is nonsense, Hindus did not develop the Gulf, they are one part of the inmigrant community. I find it surprising that Hindus who hate Islam remain there in the Gulf by the millions, it is a height of hypocrisy to keep earning your money there and spread hate against Islam

 

[Galaxy D]

That is nonsense, Hindus did not develop the Gulf, they are one part of the inmigrant community. I find it surprising that Hindus who hate Islam remain there in the Gulf by the millions, it is a height of hypocrisy to keep earning your money there and spread hate against Islam

World is full of people who hate their job and still do it for the money.

Your surprise is rather ignorant. probably deliberately ignorant.

Also back in the days of recent discovery of oil Hindus from India were the most sought after people in the gulf. In fact for a large part, even the currency of trade in the gulf used to be the Indian rupee. It was the Hindus from kerala who first moved there and built up the region. The arabs prized them for their integrity and hard working nature. Its only later that other communities started working there.

 

[war&peace]

That is nonsense, Hindus did not develop the Gulf, they are one part of the inmigrant community. I find it surprising that Hindus who hate Islam remain there in the Gulf by the millions, it is a height of hypocrisy to keep earning your money there and spread hate against Islam

They are parasites. They go there to earn living but still they harbour animosity against the very people who feed them.

 

[Galaxy D]

They are parasites. They go there to earn living but still they harbour animosity against the very people who feed them.

Indians have very good relationships with the Arabs. And vice versa.

 

[-=virus=-]

What about hindus living in Salafi arab countries? They are more happy over there.

where did you get that ?

some poor non muslim from India gets employment as truck driver or whatever in a place like Saudia will be happy because of the money he can now earn, nothing to do with Salafist Islam.

In Qatar etc the poor from the subcontinent work like slave labour in horrible conditions, Hindus, muslims, everyone..

If a Christian wants to Christianize the whole world, no calls him an extremist. Same for Hindus and Buddhist.

The Hindus and Buddhists are not nearly as obsessed with proselytization as the Abrahamists.

The Christians do it sneakily but peacefully.

Hardcore muslims are violent, they go and blow themselves up, they also follow horrible cultural practices like the Niqab/Burka for women and just do not integrate well into their host cultures.

I know a lot of Christians who use names like Naresh Paul, Ashish Pacheko, Ajay Mascarenhas, Archana D'costa..etc (made up names)

this shows a level of integration.

As a Muslim I want to see the whole world become Islamic, why I become extremist? Don't you believe in religious freedom?

I believe in freedom, religion is a part of it and have no desire to strip muslims of any rights in India. We are all equal in the constitution but it has to be amended, we should trash the Hindu undivided family and Xtian inheritance/succession and the sharia provisions there and make it truly secular. You can keep your beard and bray as much as you want and keep your women in that horrible black thing etc, things I am not a fan of but will defend your right to continue with it.

 

[Galaxy D]

I believe in freedom, religion is a part of it and have no desire to strip muslims of any rights in India. We are all equal in the constitution but it has to be amended, we should trash the Hindu undivided family and Xtian inheritance/succession and the sharia provisions there and make it truly secular. You can keep your beard and bray as much as you want and keep your women in that horrible black thing etc, things I am not a fan of but will defend your right to continue with it.

He also wants separate criminal law for muslims and Hindus in India.

Are you sure you want to continue to defend his mad claims ?

Indians go to absurd lengths to claim to be secular. This seems like one of those moments. Same with the other posters who called this crazy dude sane.

 

[-=virus=-]

He also wants separate criminal law for muslims and Hindus in India.

Are you sure you want to continue to defend his mad claims ?

Hindus go to absurd lengths to claim to be secular. This seems like one of those moments. Same with the other posters who called this crazy dude sane.

ftfy

I like real secularism and am all for it, not this broken appeasement machine filth that people like jihadidi and raul and their ilk have been peddling for decades.

 

[Galaxy D]

ftfy

I like real secularism and am all for it, not this broken appeasement machine filth that people like jihadidi and raul and their ilk have been peddling for decades.

What is "real" secularism and where can I find it ?

rahul and his ilk has been peddling less filth that what this apparently 'sane' individual is peddling. Separate criminal law for muslims and BD muslims to have a free run in India.

Compared to the poster, rahul comes across as a genius.