Osama Bin Laden 'SHAHEED'? PM Imran Khan Speech in National Assembly

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You should simply do some data mining on PTI fan and vote base before throwing words like jumping and dancing.

I don't need to go into details how controversial views of a PM can get political leverage legally despite heroic efforts of propagandist down the food chain.

Why?

Let me reiterate, "his views on Pakistan joining the WoT are not new - he's been consistent about them (dialog instead of military force) and attracted a lot of criticism.

PTI supporters voted for him knowing those views. It helped of course that FATA & Swat had already been largely stabilized by the time the 2018 elections came around so those views weren't really an issue that voters had to consider."

 

[dbc]

The US was asked for evidence to prove that Ossama was responsible - but they refused to show their evidence, claiming its classified. But it seems Muslims today are ashamed of themselves and don't even need evidence to blame their own and have them executed without charge.

huh!? What are you on about?

 

[Jungibaaz]

Either way, his views on Pakistan joining the WoT are not new - he's been consistent about them (dialog instead of military force) and attracted a lot of criticism.

PTI supporters voted for him knowing those views. It helped of course that FATA & Swat had already been largely stabilized by the time the 2018 elections came around so those views weren't really an issue that voters had to consider.

He had the right view, and he’s been vindicated with the US pulling out. But his stance on operations in our own tribal areas has changed quite a bit. And now in government it’s best this way anyway.

 

[Jinn Baba]

"We in Pakistan always felt that we were an ally of the US and if we had been given the information about Osama Bin Laden, we should have taken him out."

How does that make sense? If "we" should have taken him out - how is he classed as Shaheed? Or is he only shaheed because the US killed him, but would be a terrorist if "we" killed him?

 

[El Sidd]

Why?

Let me reiterate, "his views on Pakistan joining the WoT are not new - he's been consistent about them (dialog instead of military force) and attracted a lot of criticism.

PTI supporters voted for him knowing those views. It helped of course that FATA & Swat had already been largely stabilized by the time the 2018 elections came around so those views weren't really an issue that voters had to consider."

An average PTI supporter advocates for jirga and panchayt justice so there is no ideological issues for them to think about for voting IK.

PTM was also given patronage in this regard to ease the process.

 

[Armchair]

huh!? What are you on about?

Ah the infamous grainy video. We believe this to be a fake video - its grainy and it has a major mistake - him wearing a gold ring. It seems our American friends didn't know that Muslim men are forbidden in Islam to wear gold.

But hey, evidence never got in the way of people who openly say "we lie, we stole"

 

[Psychic]

The US was asked for evidence to prove that Ossama was responsible - but they refused to show their evidence, claiming its classified. But it seems Muslims today are ashamed of themselves and don't even need evidence to blame their own and have them executed without charge.

Terrorism is defined as the act of targeting non-combatants to strike dread and fear. The number of civilians killed by USA and Isreal since 2001 far exceed those killed by Osama. Yet, no one dares to call them even war criminals let alone terrorists. Might is right.

The US at a later date if not us, will eventually confirm that our intel services had OBL in their custody.

2020 and beyond - It's better that they stay silent about our help if any.

The US at a later date if not us, will eventually confirm that our intel services had OBL in their custody.

2020 and beyond - It's better that they stay silent about our help if any.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Look, if you're going to start trolling again, then there is no point in engaging.

You made a comment about his views on Pakistan joining the WoT, and, as is usual, when you can't respond rationally, you start dancing and jumping around.


Has Indian stopped its State terrorism in J&K and decided to abide by her commitment to the UNSC Resolutions to hold a plebiscite in J&K?

No?

Then India is still the problem, as it was when it supported terrorism in East Pakistan, Balochistan and the TTP.

I already said that it unfair to ask only india to follow UN resolution.

It would be better if all parties will agree China - aksai chin, india and Pakistan - pak Kashmir and GB).

If not possible, then its a dead... Thanks

 

[Baghial]

the best speach of imran khan......................... only if u are deaf, u will understand it
otherwise a severe headache, ..............same bla bla bla, from 2015/16/17/18/1920

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I already said that it unfair to ask only india to follow UN resolution.

It would be better if all parties will agree China - aksai chin, india and Pakistan - pak Kashmir and GB).

If not possible, then its a dead... Thanks

Has the Indian government stated this officially?

If not, then what you believe is irrelevant and my previous point stands.

 

[Dil_Pakistan]

@AgNoStiC MuSliM may i suggest changing the title of the thread & the other one too posted by this member. IMO such "sensational" or "catchy" headlines may attract traffic of members but it discourages any fruitful discussion. As can be seen the thread is already derailed by trolling or elsewise and literally a 12 second bit out of 40 odd minute speech is centre of discussion.
People may like or dislike infact hate IK to their guts but he is PM and he gave speech in parliament after long time. I think it requires some decent discussion (or criticism even).

 

[Chandrguptaa]

Pakistan had no threat from Osama Bin Ladin,our main enemy is india so it not matters much for us whether he is regarded as hero or terrorist,real terrorism in Pakistan is due to india and cia

For FATF that matters a lot.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Has the Indian government stated this officially?

If not, then what you believe is irrelevant and my previous point stands.

Very sorry, but I quoted about someone pointed to India for terrorism.

I always try to follow PDF rules... And about UN resolution... I stand with my point, you can stand with your point.

I m not trolling! I just shared my point of view.

 

[RedHulk]

There is a reason behind it War is coming and we need Taliban support. Shhhhh

 

[Baghial]

How does that make sense? If "we" should have taken him out - how is he classed as Shaheed? Or is he only shaheed because the US killed him, but would be a terrorist if "we" killed him?

osama was a billionaire$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. dollars travel to the least unexpected places,

and the drone attacks were complice of pak army and the pak govt,of the time.......
in unethical law, who is the real criminal?
1.......the one bombing with drones
2.........or the one allowing secretly to bomb its soverignty!