Obama again lectures India on rights

[DragonEmpire]

US aircraft carriers are coming to help Christians in India carve out their own country free from ghar wapsi. Modi miscalculated when he thought USA would sell out Christians.

 

[wolfschanzze]

US aircraft carriers are coming to help Christians in India carve out their own country free from ghar wapsi. Modi miscalculated when he thought USA would sell out Christians.

First worry about the Church conversions in China before worrying about India, China will be a Christian nation soon in some years.
China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years - Telegraph

 

[Viper0011.]

do you even know what you are talking ?

Oh, I KNOW what I am talking about. Do you want me to give you the names of no go areas in India, where Christians and Muslims don't want to go, fearing they might get kill by the "elite" Brahmans? Or do you want me to name your leaders and the areas where Christians and Muslims have been and are being targeted or do you want me to talk about has been happening to Sikhs.....you name it and I shall provide you with details.

India got a way to go

Did the entire Indian community start calling you Pakistani, a Muslim and all that? Because I go through that cycle. If God forbid, you once brought something negative about India, you have to be a Pakistani or a Muslim or whatever else. These guys can't take any productive criticism, but yet, they have the audacity to call out issues with Christianity, Islam and everything else but Hinduism!

 

[C130]

Oh, I KNOW what I am talking about. Do you want me to give you the names of no go areas in India, where Christians and Muslims don't want to go, fearing they might get kill by the "elite" Brahmans? Or do you want me to name your leaders and the areas where Christians and Muslims have been and are being targeted or do you want me to talk about has been happening to Sikhs.....you name it and I shall provide you with details.



Did the entire Indian community start calling you Pakistani, a Muslim and all that? Because I go through that cycle. If God forbid, you once brought something negative about India, you have to be a Pakistani or a Muslim or whatever else. These guys can't take any productive criticism, but yet, they have the audacity to call out issues with Christianity, Islam and everything else but Hinduism!

no. i try to be non bias on here. i have been accused of being Indian though
india has faults pakistan has faults usa has faults we all have faults, but clearly something is going on India with them attacking Christians

 

[Viper0011.]

Look who is talking FAT *** American .................USA seriously needs to stop wiping others ***..........I mean there are so many people in America who are harassed everyday just because they are black,Muslims and Hindus..........And you still want to lecture India .................
Number of people killed in America by law enforcement just because they were black :-
Rumain Brisbon, 34, Phoenix, Ariz.—Dec. 2, 2014
Tamir Rice, 12, Cleveland, Ohio—Nov. 22, 2014
Akai Gurley, 28, Brooklyn, NY—Nov. 20, 2014
Kajieme Powell, 25, St. Louis, Mo.—August 19, 2014
Ezell Ford, 25, Los Angeles, Calif.—August 12, 2014
Dante Parker, 36, San Bernardino County, Calif.—August 12, 2014
Michael Brown, 18, Ferguson, Mo.—August 9, 2014
John Crawford III, 22, Beavercreek, Ohio—August 5, 2014
Tyree Woodson, 38, Baltimore, Md.—August 2, 2014
Eric Garner, 43, New York, N.Y.—July 17, 2014
Victor White III, 22, Iberia Parish, La.—March 22, 2014
Yvette Smith, 47, Bastrop, Texas—February 16, 2014
McKenzie Cochran, 25, Southfield, Mich.—January 28, 2014
Jordan Baker, 26, Houston, Texas—January 16, 2014
And many many more....................................

Please post a source telling us that there are minorities being harrassed in the US on daily basis, Blacks, Hindus, Muslims, etc. Outline the way your post suggests. Give us proofs outside of "Times of India" please.

Also, you realize that threatening the police and getting into a fight would more than likely get the aggressor party shot right? Its how law enforcement works. No matter what color you are, can't fuk with the system. I will speak for the Black community on here. Some of our brothers have the decency to carry drugs, weapons and all and get tough with the police and, unfortunately, that would bring bad news. Now have there been a few killed wrongly? I am sure there are, that's why as have a JUSTICE system and we let that work and take care of these mistakes. But our ELECTED officials aren't trying to make USA a 100% Christian country, we allow everyone to live here peacefully. Millions of Indians is an example of it. Look at the wealth your country gets from the Indians living here......and the transformation the US has brought to India....and you'd bitc*h about something as small as a few people killed in police action?

By the way, back to the topic, the Indian government needs to get rid of these Hindu extremists and stop the killing and forceful conversion of its minority by violence and force towards Hinduism. This is NOT justifiable, acceptable and is flat out terrorism. No different than Al-Qaeda. What do Al-Qeda terrorist and Hindu fanatics have in common? Both kill and conduct terrorism to forcefully spread their religion. No difference!

no. i try to be non bias on here. i have been accused of being Indian though
india has faults pakistan has faults usa has faults we all have faults, but clearly something is going on India with them attacking Christians

well, no matter how "unbiased" we try to be, either side that we question blames us to be the other. Its like junior high all over again . Everyone has faults but when the elected officials provide support to religious fanatics in any society, the religious fanatics turn into terrorists and kill others, force others to accept their religion. THAT should never be acceptable. Indian government needs to fix this by ensuring safety and success of its own citizens who are from a minority religion. That's the most basic human right a person can expect from its system, country and the government.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

.....Do you want me to give you the names of no go areas in India, where Christians and Muslims don't want to go, fearing they might get kill by the "elite" Brahmans? ............do you want me to talk about has been happening to Sikhs.....you name it and I shall provide you with details.

LOL. ......... This is how I know you are a Pakistani ............ maybe settled in the US, but a Pakistani never the less.

Brahmins are arguably the most peaceful of all Indians ....... they do not even eat chicken, fish or even egg for fear of hurting an Animal .... and you are saying that Muslims and christians are afraid that "brahmins" will kill them ?

no. i try to be non bias on here. i have been accused of being Indian though
india has faults pakistan has faults usa has faults we all have faults, but clearly something is going on India with them attacking Christians

Atrocity literature as a tool to defang Hindus and Christianize India | IndiaFacts

One of the more effective techniques that the global Evangelical nexus adopts to push its agenda both on the global and local stages is to generate what is known as Atrocity or Outrage Literature.

Atrocity or Outrage Literature can be defined as material—including written, audio and video—produced by the global Christian network that highlights and exaggerates historical, social, political, ideological and other fault lines in non-Christian societies with the deliberate aims to show how:

• These societies are backward, regressive and in a state of perpetual internal conflict.
• Only Christianity has the means and equipment to end such conflict and rescue these societies.
• There is a need for political intervention from powerful White-Christian Western countries to aid the work of these Evangelicals.

The first and only aim of Atrocity or Outrage literature is to completely Christianize non-Christian nations. Both missionary activities on the ground and the generation of atrocity literature go hand in hand. In a way, atrocity literature is both a subset of and a companion to hard core evangelical literature.

Origins of Atrocity Literature

More fundamentally, the Church-inspired atrocity literature against non-Christian cultures in the world from the early days of colonialism share a few common characteristics:

• In the early days of colonialism, around the 17th and 18th Century, the European settlers portrayed the natives of the Americas, Africa and Asia as primitive savages who needed to be civilised by God-fearing Christians.

• All conflicts between colonisers and natives were presented as clashes between native barbarism and civilised Christians. This narrative justified the brutalities inflicted upon the colonised natives.

• These narratives eventually went mainstream and justified racist theories like the Aryan Invasion Theory and the White Man’s Burden. These theories were therefore taken as the justification for their own colonialism because they were “saving” the oppressed Dravidians from the Aryans.

• While the oppressed natives were shown as barbaric, the Western colonisers saw their own ills like racism, misogyny, and slavery as incongruities that can be corrected.

Much later, when the mirror was shown to the justifiers of colonialism, they mounted their defence in the form of whitewashing colonial brutalities—racism, misogyny and slavery—as mere “incongruities that can be corrected” while continuing to uphold the Church-inspired discourse on Dalits and tribals.

 

[airmarshal]

Ever since Modi's Hindu nationalist govt, there is a sense of alienation in minorities as reports filed from India suggest.

A certain point about religion based genocide was made and some Indian with US flags said his smart money will be on Pakistan.

Well smart-as*, there had been a genocide under Modi when was a CM. This was not in the 19th century, it was in modern day, 'secular' India. Not just that, there had been several anti-Muslim pogroms before as well.

The point is India has waste swathes of land under illiteracy and poverty. Its them who are most likely affected by religious bigotry. So with such a huge population of diverse faiths and the govt appearing to be promoting a narrow, nationalist agenda with a religious undertone, the chance of a mishap goes up.

 

[Diggy]

Oh, I KNOW what I am talking about. Do you want me to give you the names of no go areas in India, where Christians and Muslims don't want to go, fearing they might get kill by the "elite" Brahmans? Or do you want me to name your leaders and the areas where Christians and Muslims have been and are being targeted or do you want me to talk about has been happening to Sikhs.....you name it and I shall provide you with details.



Did the entire Indian community start calling you Pakistani, a Muslim and all that? Because I go through that cycle. If God forbid, you once brought something negative about India, you have to be a Pakistani or a Muslim or whatever else. These guys can't take any productive criticism, but yet, they have the audacity to call out issues with Christianity, Islam and everything else but Hinduism!

killed by elite brahmans ?
condition of brahmans is the worst in todays india , so cut your crap

and tell me whats happening with sikhs , tell me what did elite brahmans do to sikhs

 

[pakistanitarzan]

ughhhh just can't wait for Republicans!

 

[BountyHunter]

Please post a source telling us that there are minorities being harrassed in the US on daily basis, Blacks, Hindus, Muslims, etc. Outline the way your post suggests. Give us proofs outside of "Times of India" please.

Well what about Tamir Rice, 12 ? you cant arrest a 12 yr old kid ? well thats shame LOL
I cant give you the links cause im new to defence.pk and trust me its not from "Times of India"

 

[Screambowl]

He is just trying to influence Indian Public more over, he has been asked to do so by the sikhs against congress for asylum

 

[Viper0011.]

Article was kinda insulting towards the end with the bowing and scraping before Saudi Arabia part. I'm sure there's some butthurt in India about his comments. However, it does bring up a legitimate point. Saudi Arabia doesn't even pretend to worry about religious rights. We don't have anything to say to them?

@Viper0011. You sure about the assertion that India is the most likely place for a religious genocide, dude? I mean you've got ISIS in Syria and Iraq right now. And if you really just wanted to pick someone in South Asia, smart money would be on Pakistan.

Why are your posts always pro India?? If you are from India, it doesn't hurt to say it. Don't muddy up the waters ( the topic) by bringing in others. Saudi, ISIS don't belong to this thread. Everyone knows the sad human rights situation in Saudi, everyone also know ISIS is a terrorist organization with maniacs running around doing violence.

But the topic shouldn't be derailed to others. Let's focus on India and her religious extremism, the Hindu fanatics doing similar stuff like Al-Qaeda and ISIS, only at a national level. Same goals, such as their religious supremacy on all religion but slightly different tactics, which means AQ, ISIS, BJP, Shive Sena, RSS, although belonging to different religions (Islam vs. Hinduism), pose the same threat to humans and have the same violent agenda. You can't change the terms of terrorism because one kills across many nations, and the other kills within one nations boundaries with different tactics. At the end, innocents are getting killed in India for decades by the Hindu extremists!

And yes, I totally support my assertion that there is the highest risk of mass genocide in India. There have already been mass graves found in Kashmir, dead Muslims killed by the mighty Indian Army due to them being Muslim and asking for their democratic rights (which obviously no one cares about as they are Muslims), Sikhs were killed in scores, Christian villages have been burned down to Ashes with people burnt while sleeping.

So I am not predicting stuff based on a pipe dream, I am predicting stuff based on real events. I think Obama / the US administration has assessed the same risk and that's why they are making these statements as to give wake up calls to the Indian government!

He is just trying to influence Indian Public more over, he has been asked to do so by the sikhs against congress for asylum

Riiiiightttttt, it's about a few Sikhs seeking asylum in the US. The hundreds of thousand dead from all minority religions.....never happened or happens in India....right? Before you make such stupid remarks, realize how many hundreds of thousands of people have been killed by the extremist Hindus over decades. No one deserves to die because they belong to a different religion. Period. People killing others in the name of religion are called terrorists, whether they are Hindu, Muslim, Christians or anyone....

killed by elite brahmans ?
condition of brahmans is the worst in todays india , so cut your crap

and tell me whats happening with sikhs , tell me what did elite brahmans do to sikhs

Your forgot the golden temple massacre? You forgot what happened to thousands of Sikhs, Christians and Muslims (and continues to happen today)? If your government not made up of religious nut cases who have been involved (directly) in many cases of mass minority murders called "riots" to protect Hindus?

Your own PM was directly linked to mass murders of Muslims in Gujrat, your internal investigation determined that..... Don't your leaders today talk about "India will be a one Hindu nation by 2030?" And "everyone will be a Hindu in India by 2030 or they can go elsewhere"?

 

[AugenBlick]

This is our official response

 

[Musafir117]

Okhli mein sar diya hai tou bhukto bhi
Do more do more do more

 

[Diggy]

Your forgot the golden temple massacre? You forgot what happened to thousands of Sikhs, Christians and Muslims (and continues to happen today)? If your government not made up of religious nut cases who have been involved (directly) in many cases of mass minority murders called "riots" to protect Hindus?

sigh
so golden temple massacare & riots was a work of elite brahman hindus ? is this what you are saying
yeah and what happened to thousands of christians ?

Your own PM was directly linked to mass murders of Muslims in Gujrat, your internal investigation determined that..... Don't your leaders today talk about "India will be a one Hindu nation by 2030?" And "everyone will be a Hindu in India by 2030 or they can go elsewhere"?

gujrat riots happened after a train was set on fire , highest courts in india have acquitted modi of any wrongdoing .

shall i give you links about what muslim leaders in india talk , shall i give you links about what few leaders in your country have to say .