No dhoti, pyjama, slippers; elite clubs keep British legacy alive,

[third eye]

Same here mate............ I know of some elite clubs where sitting Prime Ministers have been refused entrance due to dress code, and also membership...............

All of us sometimes behave more gora than goraz...............

Dont we have a dress code at work ?

Its not a Q being holier than thou but following rules which we are not used to.

 

[Hyperion]

Actually I agree with the rules........... don't have much of a problem with them............ but it has been a problem with one of my cousin, who has missed a lot of business because he refuses to dress up accordingly.......

Dont we have a dress code at work ?

Its not a Q being holier than thou but following rules which we are not used to.

 

[scorpionx]

This is actually a pointless debate. These are private clubs & they have the right to set their rules. I have no idea why a HC judge is making this an issue. Does he wear a dhothi to the High Court? Why do lawyers have to dress in a certain way? Maybe we can have the Chief of Army staff wearing a dhothi.......... Sometimes I wonder whether we are all Arundhati Roy wannabe - a janda in search of an agenda.....

When they are not in office, High court Judges or Chief of Defense staff might prefer to wear any dress they like. I wonder some times, in the name of rules and regulations, if these clubs are trying to be more British than the Britishers themselves.

In the 50's, Calcutta High court's last British advocate Noel Barwell once threatened to sue the club officials when they refused to allow his typing assistant (who became a legendary author and Ramakrishna-Vivekananda researcher later) in the club because he did not have proper shoes. If a sane British can refuse to accept the absurdity of such rules why not it's management?

I agree that clubs are entitled to have their own set of rules but at the same time it must be looked upon if those rules are appropriate to time and places as well.

 

[Bang Galore]

When they are not in office, High court Judges or Chief of Defense staff might prefer to wear any dress they like. I wonder some times, in the name of rules and regulations, if these clubs are trying to be more British than the Britishers themselves.

In the 50's, Calcutta High court's last British advocate Noel Barwell once threatened to sue the club officials when they refused to allow his typing assistant (who became a legendary author and Ramakrishna-Vivekananda researcher later) in the club because he did not have proper shoes. If a sane British can refuse to accept the absurdity of such rules why not it's management?

I agree that clubs are entitled to have their own set of rules but at the same time it must be looked upon if those rules are appropriate to time and places as well.

My point is limited to the fact that the club has a right to choose their dress code just like the courts do. The Club does not have a dress code for its members when they are at home... I have no problems if the club relaxes their dress code but I have no problems if they don't either.

Btw, most Tamilians wear shirts even when they wear dhothi.....shirt now a part of ancient Tamil culture I suppose.....The hypocrisy is astonishing, don't you think?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Same here in Pakistan. You cannot visit the dining halls of Chenab club, Islamabad club and some other clubs in DHA if youre wearing slippers, t shirt or jeans.

Disgusting!

Thts not the same as the thing happenin in india.

 

[scorpionx]

My point is limited to the fact that the club has a right to choose their dress code just like the courts do. The Club does not have a dress code for its members when they are at home... I have no problems if the club relaxes their dress code but I have no problems if they don't either.

Btw, most Tamilians wear shirts even when they wear dhothi.....shirt now a part of ancient Tamil culture I suppose.....The hypocrisy is astonishing, don't you think?

I do not disagree with this either. Clubs can make their own rules,dress codes in what ever manner they want. But the hypocrisy comes more from the clubs in my view. In stead of forcing invitees to wear proper dresses, why don't they change their rules which are in accordance with time. Calcutta Club had relaxed their rules million times before. Why don't they change such a rule that has to be relaxed time to time? And what if Bengal club retained it's "No Indian" policy till today? Would those protests still be called as "Jhanda in every agenda" as well?

 

[Bang Galore]

And what if Bengal club retained it's "No Indian" policy till today? Would those protests still be called as "Jhanda in every agenda" as well?

C'mon man, you are just stretching that point a little too much. Racism & a dress code are not the same. If they make allowances for a dhothi but not for others, wouldn't that be arguable as discrimination too? Where would you stop? I have no issue whether a club has a dress code or it doesn't, only with the type of arguments now being put forward on the issue.

 

[Bombaywalla]

It's all good. Club/gymkhana rules apply.

 

[Koovie]

Thts not the same as the thing happenin in india.

How so?

PS: And if frantically trying to write India without capital "I" makes you feel more badass. keep on doing it

The man was entering private property, of course they can deny him access if they have his own dress code.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

How so?

PS: And if frantically trying to write India without capital "I" makes you feel more badass. keep on doing it

The man was entering private property, of course they can deny him access if they have his own dress code.

Yeah but there is a difference.. i think you guys have deep inferiority complexes about yourself... i dnt know... if dhoti is your national dress etc... it should be allowed in your clubs...


For Example.. In Pakistan ... Some Clubs wont allow T-Shirts,sneakers or denim... but they will allow formal and Qurta etc with a jacket,/waist coat... understand?


Something like this:

No hard feelings just my personal opinion.

 

[Koovie]

Yeah but there is a difference.. i think you guys have deep inferiority complexes about yourself... i dnt know... if dhoti is your national dress etc... it should be allowed in your clubs...


For Example.. In Pakistan ... Some Clubs wont allow T-Shirts,sneakers or denim... but they will allow formal and Qurta etc with a jacket,/waist coat... understand?


Something like this:

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No hard feelings just my personal opinion.

Those clubs are privately owned... They can decide what is to be worn inside their house.

You opinions needs to be directed towards the owners, generalizing as you do is wrong.

 

[Chronos]

Yeah but there is a difference.. i think you guys have deep inferiority complexes about yourself... i dnt know... if dhoti is your national dress etc... it should be allowed in your clubs...


For Example.. In Pakistan ... Some Clubs wont allow T-Shirts,sneakers or denim... but they will allow formal and Qurta etc with a jacket,/waist coat... understand?


Something like this:

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No hard feelings just my personal opinion.

Dhoti is hardly our national dress. I don't think our North-Eastern brethren wears it. And neither a lot of South Indians do as well.

So what if those people want to get in?

There is no national language, there is no national dress, I mean the only thing we have national is our bird and animal. Plus this is not a government sanctioned rule. It is a rule in a private club.

You have to shrug your shoulders about it and move on. Same thing with corporate attire.

If you are looking at deep inferirority complexes from that, you are grasping at straws at this point in this case IMO.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Dhoti is hardly our national dress. I don't think our North-Eastern brethren wears it. And neither a lot of South Indians do as well.

So what if those people want to get in?

There is no national language, there is no national dress, I mean the only thing we have national is our bird and animal. Plus this is not a government sanctioned rule. It is a rule in a private club.

You have to shrug your shoulders about it and move on. Same thing with corporate attire.

If you are looking at deep inferirority complexes from that, you are grasping at straws at this point in this case IMO.

your country ..

 

[Chronos]

Thts not the same as the thing happenin in india.

And you also have people wearing western shirts over lungis now in many states as an example.

Or increasingly in the Middle East, in Asian countries you have people adapting western clothes.

Like it or not, it is becoming the norm. Inferiority complex or not, western influences run pretty deep in almost all the countries of the planet. That's just the reality of it.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

And you also have people wearing western shirts over lungis now in many states as an example.

Or increasingly in the Middle East, in Asian countries you have people adapting western clothes.

Like it or not, it is becoming the norm. Inferiority complex or not, western influences run pretty deep in almost all the countries of the planet. That's just the reality of it.

I hope too much western culture doesnt come to our part of the region... balanced approach.. ppl shouldnt appe foreign culture..