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New Delhi: Former Prime Minister HD Deve Gowda, DMK chief M Karunanidhi and Samajwadi Party chief Mulayam Singh Yadav can't enter most of the clubs across India. The reason is what they wear is not an appropriate dress for the most of the elite clubs in the country. Fortunately, these leaders are not known for spending their free time at the clubs. No loss for them!

The recent incident of not allowing a Madras High Court judge into Tamil Nadu Cricket Association Club in Chennai has triggered a controversy. It has led to a nationwide debate on the relevance of dress code which is being strictly followed by most of the clubs in India.

The Madras High Court judge Justice D Hariparanthaman was denied entry into the Tamil Nadu Cricket Association Club recently for wearing dhoti. When he alighted from his official car at the club premises to participate in a book release function organised by TS Arunachalam, a former Chief Justice of the High Court, some staff of the club told him that he could not enter the premises wearing dhoti as they had instructions from the office-bearers not to allow anyone in the premises who violated the club's dress code. The judge has termed the incident as "unfortunate". Gnanadesikan said it was "regrettable" that a High Court Judge was denied entry for wearing dhoti.

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The recent incident of not allowing a Madras High Court judge into Tamil Nadu Cricket Association Club in Chennai has triggered a controversy.
Almost all Tamil political parties are opposing the archaic dress code which is a legacy of the British. They want these clubs to end such practices.

The debate over dress code is not new in India. Such incidents keep happening across India. Most of them go unnoticed. Only when the person involved or concerned is big, it gets media attention and usual protests erupt in the media. But, no club in India has changed its dress code because of the public pressure or media campaign. They maintain that the clubs are private institutions and not the public bodies to listen to the government. The people those who oppose the 'exclusivist' nature of the clubs argue that these clubs own huge public land and avail many other facilities from the government and they can't claim that they are private institutions.

Others argue that the dress code introduced by the British is now outdated and the British no longer control any of these clubs. They demand that the clubs must say goodbye to these meaningless British culture and adapt to the Indian culture. However most of the clubs are not ready to change the rules.

In 2002, the prestigious National Law School of India University (NLSIU), Bangalore Director Professor G Mohan Gopal was denied entry into the elite Bangalore Club founded in 1865. Because, he was dressed in dhoti and slippers. It led to a huge furore and the then chief minister of Karnataka SM Krishna, who is also an old member of the club, had stated that anything decent is acceptable and the dhoti clad guests should not be turned away.

A similar incident which happened at the same club last year proved that the past incidents had no impact on the club culture. Ashoke Chatterjee, former director of the National Institute of Design and a nephew of film maker Satyajit Ray, was denied entry into the Bangalore Club because he was not appropriately dressed. He belongs to a family that has been associated with the Bangalore Club for over 100 years. According to a newspaper report, modernity of society is a family concern, but what is being done in the name of 'modernity' at Bangalore club is a letdown for Chatterjee. Upset by the dress code at Bangalore Club that curbs men wearing traditional Indian attire, which he calls 'absurd,' Chatterjee decided to give up his life membership as a 'new year resolution.'

"Though I have been using the club for years, from 2006 I was restricted from entering the club because I was in Indian clothes. They say it's not part of the club's decorum. Now, the club has the right to formulate rules, but I only want them to put it in writing why they think wearing only western clothes is decent?" questioned Chatterjee.

Last year, the issue had come up for discussion in the Karnataka assembly, after a House committee under MLA D Hemachandra Sagar submitted a report highlighting the 'western clothes only' dress code of Bangalore's elite clubs. There was even a suggestion that a law should be put in place to eliminate such "colonial'' practices.

MK Chidambaranath, President, Bangalore Club at that time had admitted that it was a colonial thought, when questioned about the dress code. "We have only been carrying forward what the British have left behind. We consciously don't make changes, be it to the architecture of this club or the culture. There are times when some members have a medical problem in wearing formal shoes and so on. That's when we consider and give temporary relief," he had said reports 'Bangalore Mirror'.

At the Bangalore Club, there are many members who have a grouse about the dress code including Girish Karnad. In fact, a few years ago during Deepavali, even Infosys founder N R Narayana Murthy was turned away by the club for entering in kurta pyjamas.

In an article 'Of Course, the Raj Is Long Gone, But Oh-So-Select Clubs Carry On' published in 'The New York Times' in 1998, eminent editor Sunanda K. Datta-Ray beautifully explains it in following words, "When I was put up for membership of the Calcutta Club, an applicant with his proposer or seconder (sometimes both) had to run the gauntlet of the committee members, each regally ensconced at a small table. Arriving early for the ritual, my proposer, an Old Etonian Englishman who had made Calcutta his home, took me to the bar upstairs where we bumped into local nobility, the Maharajah of Burdwan, resplendent in brocade smoking jacket, who was also a committee member. 'I can only see you downstairs', he said, hospitably offering me a drink."

The British started the racially mixed Calcutta Club to mollify Indians who could not cross the threshold of the august Bengal Club, which was undoubtedly the grandest in an empire on which the sun never set because, whispered the irreverent, God could not trust it in the dark. The novelist John Masters assures us that there is no truth in the rumor of three members dying of apoplexy when they read at breakfast one morning that India would soon be independent. But the American colonel, a World War II honorary member, who peeped into the smoking room after lunch, might well have exclaimed, "Gee, back home we send them to the mortuary!"

The Bengal Club was not just white; it interpreted "all gentlemen received in general society," the definition of members, to mean only superior sahibs like the viceroy, his councilors, governors, the army top brass, and high court judges. Lesser sahibs, especially those in trade, had to be content with the Saturday Club, which, too, is still going strong but with Indian members. So is the Bangalore Club, which proudly displays the bill for a few rupees that Winston Churchill never paid, and the Ootacamund Club, where a young subaltern invented snooker while pottering with the cue and balls one lazy afternoon in 1875."

"A bright young spark is sometimes asked to leave sprawling Gymkhana Club in New Delhi or the pillared Adyar Club in Madras for flouting the dress code. Politicians then denounce colonial starch. Clubland fears a siege. But the storm blows over. People would feel bereft if these relics of the past were swept away, leaving them with no yardstick of social acceptance and no totems to protest against".

The refusal to change has a strong reason. Most of the elite clubs in India have retired bureaucrats, police officers, military officers and corporate leaders as their members. They control the club administration and don't want to change the rules which may threaten their cosy club. They want to keep the British legacy alive by strictly following the dress code and the club culture, which actually helps them to keep the club doors shut on dhoti clad, pyjama clad and slipper wearing people, whom they don't consider gentlemen enough to share the club dining hall with them.

No dhoti, pyjama, slippers; elite clubs keep British legacy alive, people express outrage - IBNLive
 
Every institution has its own rules.

This applies to a home as well, for instance some take off their shoes before entering . If I do not do the same at my home does not mean I can were shoes into your house. I must follow the rules of a place I visit.
 
Same here in Pakistan. You cannot visit the dining halls of Chenab club, Islamabad club and some other clubs in DHA if youre wearing slippers, t shirt or jeans.

Disgusting!
 
Private enterprises have their rules.. & one shouldn't make an issue out of it to serve their political interest. I'm not allowed to walk into most of the night clubs here with my jeans & trainers on. No one makes a fuss about it... & just follow the rules set by that place!
 
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Same here in Pakistan. You cannot visit the dining halls of Chenab club, Islamabad club and some other clubs in DHA if youre wearing slippers, t shirt or jeans.

Disgusting!

Braking rules comes naturally to us & we take pride in it.

Dont we follow rules when we go to places of worship - be it ours or that of another religion ?

These Babus & politicians think that they are above the law. The Delhi Gymkhana or Mahomed Bagh Club , Lucknow are very particular what their members & guests wear or do not wear.

These yahoos just want to make a mountain out of nothing & the press plays along.
 
Private enterprises have their rules.. & one shouldn't make an issue out of it to serve their political interest. I'm not allowed to walk into most of the night clubs here with my jeans & trainers on. No one makes a fuss about it... & just follow the rules set by that place!
Even here in UK, they make exceptions while others try to prove more Royal than Royals.

Wimbledon relaxes strict dress code on debenture holders to allow jeans in exclusive areas - Telegraph
 
Ironically, Calcutta Club was established in protest to the racism displayed by another British club ,The Bengal Club when it refused to allow Lord Minto to invite an Indian acquaintance.

Today, these sort of rules and regulations sound ridiculous. You are most welcome to have a set of rules but barring traditional Indian dresses, shoes means you are still a prisoner of the colonial past.
 
Even here in UK, they make exceptions while others try to prove more Royal than Royals.

Wimbledon relaxes strict dress code on debenture holders to allow jeans in exclusive areas - Telegraph
But players are still not allowed to wear their choice of coloured clothing though! Even great Andre Agassi had to succumb to the rules despite his self imposed wimbledon ban well early in his career. & that non white outfit ban which has been in place for more than 130+ years is not going to go anytime soon either!
 
Their fees are very expensive too. Try getting a membership at any of these clubs. You will end up hating these snobs even more.
The fact that I wanted to be one of those snobs is a different matter :ashamed:
 
Not all the things that were British are bad. Having a gentleman's dress is actually a good thing. I fear to think that how Mulayam would have strutted around Ministry of Defence during the dark period of 90s, with his pan-chewing goons all over the esteemed ministry.
 
Ironically, Calcutta Club was established in protest to the racism displayed by another British club ,The Bengal Club when it refused to allow Lord Minto to invite an Indian acquaintance.

Today, these sort of rules and regulations sound ridiculous. You are most welcome to have a set of rules but barring traditional Indian dresses, shoes means you are still a prisoner of the colonial past.


This is actually a pointless debate. These are private clubs & they have the right to set their rules. I have no idea why a HC judge is making this an issue. Does he wear a dhothi to the High Court? Why do lawyers have to dress in a certain way? Maybe we can have the Chief of Army staff wearing a dhothi.......... Sometimes I wonder whether we are all Arundhati Roy wannabes - "a janda in search of an agenda..."..:rolleyes:
 
Same here in Pakistan. You cannot visit the dining halls of Chenab club, Islamabad club and some other clubs in DHA if youre wearing slippers, t shirt or jeans.

Disgusting!
Why is it disgusting? If some clown wants to wear a dhoti or chappals he can join a Dhoti chappal club, not, for example, the elite clubs like the Gymkhana Club etc (of which I am a member! :-))

Clubs have their rules and regulations. If one can't adhere to them then they need to keep out! Period! Otherwise some broad will want to come in wearing bikinis too and create a shindig if she ain't allowed. There's no end to it. These clubs are exclusive, not for the riff-raff.

Next we South Asians will want to wear chappals, T shirts and Bermudas for the Kings coronation at the Buckingham Palace! Now that would be dandy!! :lol: Only we'd be kicked up our asses real bad, and sent to Timbuktu! :P
 
Same here mate............ I know of some elite clubs where sitting Prime Ministers have been refused entrance due to dress code, and also membership (for other reasons)...............

All of us sometimes behave more gora than goraz...............

P.S....... I think the rules are clear........ follow the guidelines and there won't be a problem.......... "right of admission reserved" says it all.......

New Delhi: Former Prime Minister HD Deve Gowda, DMK chief M Karunanidhi and Samajwadi Party chief Mulayam Singh Yadav can't enter most of the clubs across India. The reason is what they wear is not an appropriate dress for the most of the elite clubs in the country. Fortunately, these leaders are not known for spending their free time at the clubs. No loss for them!

The recent incident of not allowing a Madras High Court judge into Tamil Nadu Cricket Association Club in Chennai has triggered a controversy. It has led to a nationwide debate on the relevance of dress code which is being strictly followed by most of the clubs in India.

The Madras High Court judge Justice D Hariparanthaman was denied entry into the Tamil Nadu Cricket Association Club recently for wearing dhoti. When he alighted from his official car at the club premises to participate in a book release function organised by TS Arunachalam, a former Chief Justice of the High Court, some staff of the club told him that he could not enter the premises wearing dhoti as they had instructions from the office-bearers not to allow anyone in the premises who violated the club's dress code. The judge has termed the incident as "unfortunate". Gnanadesikan said it was "regrettable" that a High Court Judge was denied entry for wearing dhoti.

bangalore_club.jpg

The recent incident of not allowing a Madras High Court judge into Tamil Nadu Cricket Association Club in Chennai has triggered a controversy.
Almost all Tamil political parties are opposing the archaic dress code which is a legacy of the British. They want these clubs to end such practices.

The debate over dress code is not new in India. Such incidents keep happening across India. Most of them go unnoticed. Only when the person involved or concerned is big, it gets media attention and usual protests erupt in the media. But, no club in India has changed its dress code because of the public pressure or media campaign. They maintain that the clubs are private institutions and not the public bodies to listen to the government. The people those who oppose the 'exclusivist' nature of the clubs argue that these clubs own huge public land and avail many other facilities from the government and they can't claim that they are private institutions.

Others argue that the dress code introduced by the British is now outdated and the British no longer control any of these clubs. They demand that the clubs must say goodbye to these meaningless British culture and adapt to the Indian culture. However most of the clubs are not ready to change the rules.

In 2002, the prestigious National Law School of India University (NLSIU), Bangalore Director Professor G Mohan Gopal was denied entry into the elite Bangalore Club founded in 1865. Because, he was dressed in dhoti and slippers. It led to a huge furore and the then chief minister of Karnataka SM Krishna, who is also an old member of the club, had stated that anything decent is acceptable and the dhoti clad guests should not be turned away.

A similar incident which happened at the same club last year proved that the past incidents had no impact on the club culture. Ashoke Chatterjee, former director of the National Institute of Design and a nephew of film maker Satyajit Ray, was denied entry into the Bangalore Club because he was not appropriately dressed. He belongs to a family that has been associated with the Bangalore Club for over 100 years. According to a newspaper report, modernity of society is a family concern, but what is being done in the name of 'modernity' at Bangalore club is a letdown for Chatterjee. Upset by the dress code at Bangalore Club that curbs men wearing traditional Indian attire, which he calls 'absurd,' Chatterjee decided to give up his life membership as a 'new year resolution.'

"Though I have been using the club for years, from 2006 I was restricted from entering the club because I was in Indian clothes. They say it's not part of the club's decorum. Now, the club has the right to formulate rules, but I only want them to put it in writing why they think wearing only western clothes is decent?" questioned Chatterjee.

Last year, the issue had come up for discussion in the Karnataka assembly, after a House committee under MLA D Hemachandra Sagar submitted a report highlighting the 'western clothes only' dress code of Bangalore's elite clubs. There was even a suggestion that a law should be put in place to eliminate such "colonial'' practices.

MK Chidambaranath, President, Bangalore Club at that time had admitted that it was a colonial thought, when questioned about the dress code. "We have only been carrying forward what the British have left behind. We consciously don't make changes, be it to the architecture of this club or the culture. There are times when some members have a medical problem in wearing formal shoes and so on. That's when we consider and give temporary relief," he had said reports 'Bangalore Mirror'.

At the Bangalore Club, there are many members who have a grouse about the dress code including Girish Karnad. In fact, a few years ago during Deepavali, even Infosys founder N R Narayana Murthy was turned away by the club for entering in kurta pyjamas.

In an article 'Of Course, the Raj Is Long Gone, But Oh-So-Select Clubs Carry On' published in 'The New York Times' in 1998, eminent editor Sunanda K. Datta-Ray beautifully explains it in following words, "When I was put up for membership of the Calcutta Club, an applicant with his proposer or seconder (sometimes both) had to run the gauntlet of the committee members, each regally ensconced at a small table. Arriving early for the ritual, my proposer, an Old Etonian Englishman who had made Calcutta his home, took me to the bar upstairs where we bumped into local nobility, the Maharajah of Burdwan, resplendent in brocade smoking jacket, who was also a committee member. 'I can only see you downstairs', he said, hospitably offering me a drink."

The British started the racially mixed Calcutta Club to mollify Indians who could not cross the threshold of the august Bengal Club, which was undoubtedly the grandest in an empire on which the sun never set because, whispered the irreverent, God could not trust it in the dark. The novelist John Masters assures us that there is no truth in the rumor of three members dying of apoplexy when they read at breakfast one morning that India would soon be independent. But the American colonel, a World War II honorary member, who peeped into the smoking room after lunch, might well have exclaimed, "Gee, back home we send them to the mortuary!"

The Bengal Club was not just white; it interpreted "all gentlemen received in general society," the definition of members, to mean only superior sahibs like the viceroy, his councilors, governors, the army top brass, and high court judges. Lesser sahibs, especially those in trade, had to be content with the Saturday Club, which, too, is still going strong but with Indian members. So is the Bangalore Club, which proudly displays the bill for a few rupees that Winston Churchill never paid, and the Ootacamund Club, where a young subaltern invented snooker while pottering with the cue and balls one lazy afternoon in 1875."

"A bright young spark is sometimes asked to leave sprawling Gymkhana Club in New Delhi or the pillared Adyar Club in Madras for flouting the dress code. Politicians then denounce colonial starch. Clubland fears a siege. But the storm blows over. People would feel bereft if these relics of the past were swept away, leaving them with no yardstick of social acceptance and no totems to protest against".

The refusal to change has a strong reason. Most of the elite clubs in India have retired bureaucrats, police officers, military officers and corporate leaders as their members. They control the club administration and don't want to change the rules which may threaten their cosy club. They want to keep the British legacy alive by strictly following the dress code and the club culture, which actually helps them to keep the club doors shut on dhoti clad, pyjama clad and slipper wearing people, whom they don't consider gentlemen enough to share the club dining hall with them.

No dhoti, pyjama, slippers; elite clubs keep British legacy alive, people express outrage - IBNLive
 

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