New Fences for Pakistani Air bases NOW!

[GHOST RIDER]

UPS need to be charged with electricity with growing shortages i dont think it is possble and generators require gas or petrol and we even have fuel crisis

 

[Myth_buster_1]

I am sorry but do we have electricity all the time?
Instead of electrifying fences PAF should emphasize on multi layered security.

I believe all PAK air bases are equipped with adequate electricity for performance. Btw all those empty spaces in air bases would be a nice place for solar panels.

 

[VelocuR]

Think about army dogs which will protect fences and barking alarms which is very effective.

 

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

جب پیش نظر جنت کے بجاۓ ڈیفنس کا بنگلہ اور امریکا کا ویزا ہوگا تو کیا قوم کا دفاع ہوگا ؟

Baba ji, App nai sahee bola..........

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Best defence is around Area 51 research it , motion sensors, hidden , buried cameras and aerial surveillance, the guards detect you from 5 km , car, on foot or camouflage

The old barbed wire does not work on ellite trained soliders like Chachniyan killers

 

[Water Car Engineer]

It is pretty sad to hear the terrorist got into the base with ladders.. No one expects anyone to attack a military base, thats what they were counting on.

 

[Super Falcon]

well in hyderabad i seen they have made good changes better changes to their bases in cantt area anyway i think all bases in pakistan should have very tall boundries than also have goood new generation wires on them and also if we dont have light we must keep 2 soldiers gurading the walls or on the top post of wall sitting with night vission googles no need electricity on them so they can see at night easily every 2 or 5 meters 2 guards should be gurading or may be more meter if possible

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Remember Night Vision googles can be given to soldiers at night no need search lights at night for guarding or heat seeker glasses etc

 

[Pak_Sher]

well in hyderabad i seen they have made good changes better changes to their bases in cantt area anyway i think all bases in pakistan should have very tall boundries than also have goood new generation wires on them and also if we dont have light we must keep 2 soldiers gurading the walls or on the top post of wall sitting with night vission googles no need electricity on them so they can see at night easily every 2 or 5 meters 2 guards should be gurading or may be more meter if possible

---------- Post added at 08:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:51 AM ----------

Remember Night Vision googles can be given to soldiers at night no need search lights at night for guarding or heat seeker glasses etc

Yes, but Pakistan also needs to induct more dogs along with the guards. Nothing better than dogs as night watchmen.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I suppose different people, different personalities react to bad news differently. Instead of looking at the spreading terrorist and terrorist-controlled locations, instead of looking at the infiltration of the lower ranks of enlisted men and officers by Islamists, and the consequent inside information passed on to terrorists, people seem to be obsessed with higher walls, new kinds of barbed wire, electrification of fences, CCTV installation and guard dogs.

Is this realistic?

 

[toxic_pus]

I suppose different people, different personalities react to bad news differently. Instead of looking at the spreading terrorist and terrorist-controlled locations, instead of looking at the infiltration of the lower ranks of enlisted men and officers by Islamists, and the consequent inside information passed on to terrorists, people seem to be obsessed with higher walls, new kinds of barbed wire, electrification of fences, CCTV installation and guard dogs.

Is this realistic?

Joe, this is the response from the owner of this site regarding Headley-Rana case.

Honestly, Pakistan government doesn't give a about attacks done two years ago. It is too busy in attacks on its own soil, why should we care?

The rot is way too deep.

PS: Welcome back.

 

[Pak_Sher]

I suppose different people, different personalities react to bad news differently. Instead of looking at the spreading terrorist and terrorist-controlled locations, instead of looking at the infiltration of the lower ranks of enlisted men and officers by Islamists, and the consequent inside information passed on to terrorists, people seem to be obsessed with higher walls, new kinds of barbed wire, electrification of fences, CCTV installation and guard dogs.

Is this realistic?

There is not a 100% proof of lower ranks. RAW is also providing intellegence and target to Talibaan and lot of apprehended Talibaan have confessed that Indian is providing arms and ammunition to the Talibaan and this is all happening under the nose of ISAF in Afghanistan.

Now all the Indians will jump and say this is not true, conspiracy theory, there are no 17 Indian consulates in Afghanistan and none of the civilian workers on Indian Aid Projects are RAW Agents and India is the biggest democracy. India never sent insurgents in Tibet, or Muqti Bani in East Pakistan and RAW cannot even spell LTTE, but we know that India is funding the Talibaan and eventually it willcome back to bite them.

 

[Joe Shearer]

There is not a 100% proof of lower ranks. RAW is also providing intellegence and target to Talibaan and lot of apprehended Talibaan have confessed that Indian is providing arms and ammunition to the Talibaan and this is all happening under the nose of ISAF in Afghanistan.

Now all the Indians will jump and say this is not true, conspiracy theory, there are no 17 Indian consulates in Afghanistan and none of the civilian workers on Indian Aid Projects are RAW Agents and India is the biggest democracy. India never sent insurgents in Tibet, or Muqti Bani in East Pakistan and RAW cannot even spell LTTE, but we know that India is funding the Talibaan and eventually it willcome back to bite them.

I am sad to read your post, but quite honestly have become reconciled to this spirit and similar during the days spent away.

First, a denial: no 100% proof of lower ranks. Remember the refusal of units of the FFC to move against Islamists; remember the activities of technicians servicing F16s, which were found to be obstructive of the missions; remember the attack on Army HQ, which was enabled by ORs and junior officers; I don't wish to rub in the circumstances regarding Abbotabad, but we all know what was needed to be done to make the raid possible; finally, consider the way in which the raiders found the precise spot where two cameras failed to cover the fence.

Please continue to believe that the lower ranks will hold firm, until there is another mutiny and someone gets killed. That is no skin off my nose.

After denial, charges of conspiracy: RAW intelligence and targets for Taliban, vague, hand-waving and totally mythical references to 'lot of apprehended Talibaan have confessed that Indian is providing arms and ammunition to the Talibaan and this is all happening under the nose of ISAF in Afghanistan'.

Sickening.

But what does the world at large say?

Here's someone (not likely to be part of the world-wide Yahood-Hanood conspiracy) who thinks a little less duplicity would help: does that sound a chord?

http://http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/south-asia/duplicitous-pakistani-military-faces-growing-calls-for-accountability

Pakistani media are in the forefront of the criticism; read this, for instance:

http://http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/24/pakistan-attack-idUSL3E7GO22G20110524

There are a dozen more instances of this, if you are interested. I will assume that you will not to be disturbed by facts which disturb your various entrenched opinions. For instance, I presume that these URLs above are examples of further conspiracies by the international media, guided by the CIA and by MI5. Not to mention R&W, which manages the BBC on a day-to-day basis.

 

[illuminatidinesh]

There is not a 100% proof of lower ranks. RAW is also providing intellegence and target to Talibaan and lot of apprehended Talibaan have confessed that Indian is providing arms and ammunition to the Talibaan and this is all happening under the nose of ISAF in Afghanistan.

Now all the Indians will jump and say this is not true, conspiracy theory, there are no 17 Indian consulates in Afghanistan and none of the civilian workers on Indian Aid Projects are RAW Agents and India is the biggest democracy. India never sent insurgents in Tibet, or Muqti Bani in East Pakistan and RAW cannot even spell LTTE, but we know that India is funding the Talibaan and eventually it willcome back to bite them.

That whole sentence should have been posted by us but due to the sad situation at the movement I refrained. Taliban doesnt seem to be listening to us, If it had then there would have been no IC debacle. Let it come to bite us when it needs to but it is already eating U wat r u going to do about it.

 

[GHOST RIDER]

I believe all PAK air bases are equipped with adequate electricity for performance. Btw all those empty spaces in air bases would be a nice place for solar panels.

i like this idea Nellis airforce base is also powered by solar panels

 

[Aamir Hussain]

To get a better view on how to prepare a layered perimeter security and an egress/ingress point barriers etc., visit Jacobabad Airbase. We have a working model of how perimeter security of sensative installations should be organized. The problem is the lack of will and seriousness to do this.

The subcontinent has dearth of manpower that can overcome the need for more sophisticated eqpt. just setting up the right sort of static defense including ditches, razor wire, blast proof bags, layered security walls and RPG proof pill boxes/observation towers and you have got a fairly robust and secure perimeter. However this also requires trained ground combateers (Not part time Flight Engineers leading the Rapid Response Teams -- with due respect to the brave Shaheed(s) who gave the supreme sacrafice at PNS Mehran) equipped with body armour, and APC's (Wheeled one's) to patrol the inner cordon. If they can be equipped with Gas masks and NVG's, that woul be a plus.