Neo-Indus nationalism does not work

[Menace2Society]

Pakistan is a multi ethnic culturally complex country with an incredibly strong and vivid culture. Pakistanis should be proud they have struggled to get the opportunity to express this to the world.

 

[Hamza913]

Well it certainly is your country. I don't think that most of your countrymen would agree with you though.
I cannot blame them. What you wrote is pretty extreme. Objectively.

The overwhelming majority of them would agree, and it's not "extreme" at all. That's pretty much what happened when Christianity came to Europe, much of the Paganistic elements of European culture was exterminated.

 

[VCheng]

How ironic that the only person here who seems to agree with my original point is @VCheng

Why ironic? I have no problem supporting the truth, presented with the logic as you did in the OP.

 

[M. Sarmad]

This "Indus" identity is really only a thing online. Not in real life.

If geography isn't 'real', I don't know what is.
And PAKISTAN is a 'geographical' term anyway

Rasulullah (peace be upon him) has promised this, it will happen.

That's just your flawed interpretation, nothing else

 

[Hamza913]

Pakistan is a multi ethnic culturally complex country with an incredibly strong and vivid culture. Pakistanis should be proud they have struggled to get the opportunity to express this to the world.

What has that got to do with my main point?

That's just your flawed interpretation, nothing more

Rofl what do you think the Mahdi and Ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) are going to do?

 

[Menace2Society]

What has that got to do with my main point?

There is more to life than just religion. There is more to Pakistan than religion.

To be successful in life balance is important. To have a successful nation balance is important.

 

[Hamza913]

There is more to life than just religion.

There really isn't.

No religion = Meaningless existence since we all reach the same destination, no matter our actions

 

[Dante80]

The overwhelming majority of them would agree, and it's not "extreme" at all. That's pretty much what happened when Christianity came to Europe, much of the Paganistic elements of European culture was exterminated.

Yes, but that was in the Middle Ages. We have come a long way since then as a species.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Rofl what do you think the Mahdi and Ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) are going to do?

The Holy Qur'an doesn't make any mention of the second coming of Jesus, or of Mahdi.
Mahdi is not mentioned in Sahihain even.

 

[VCheng]

And PAKISTAN is a 'geographical' term anyway

Is that how the proponents of the idea presented it to the people in the independence movement as the future of the Indus Valley civilization?

 

[Menace2Society]

There really isn't.

No religion = Meaningless existence since we all reach the same destination, no matter our actions

Family, health, wealth, faith, success etc are all important.

Your obsession over death is what is causing you to be this myopic. Don't obsess over death. Plan for the end, be grateful for what you have and live life to the fullest.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Is that how the proponents of the idea presented it to the people in the independence movement as the future of the Indus Valley civilization?

Yes, they did.

India is a continent of human groups belonging to different races, speaking different languages, and professing different religions [...] Personally, I would like to see the Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sindh and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single State. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of North-West India.

(Allama Muhammad Iqbal, Allahabad address, 1930)

 

[VCheng]

Yes, they did.

India is a continent of human groups belonging to different races, speaking different languages, and professing different religions [...] Personally, I would like to see the Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sindh and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single State. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of North-West India.

(Allama Muhammad Iqbal, Allahabad address, 1930)

Where does it mention the IVC? All it calls for the new proposed entity is as "the final destiny of the Muslims" within or without the British Empire.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Where does it mention the IVC? All it calls for the new proposed entity is as "the final destiny of the Muslims" within or without the British Empire.

The final destiny of Muslims of North-West India.
a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State
Punjab, Sindh, KP, and Balochistan
Read again

 

[VCheng]

The final destiny of Muslims of North-West India.
a consolidated North-West Indian Muslim State
Punjab, Sindh, KP, and Balochistan
Read again

Yes, but where is the connect to the IVC? It only proposes a new administrative unit within or without the British Empire for the Muslims of the region.