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So it kind of proves that F-16s were involved.
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Nauman Ali Has Over 3,000 Viper Flight Hours, Was In Red Flag 2010.
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Not necessarily, alot of JF-17 pilots are ex Viper pilots. F-16 did fire AMRAAM while flying CAP but the kills as per PAF sources are all from JF-17s. PAF has engaged InAF on multiple occasions during the current conflict.
Once Indian elections start will probably get details of all engagements.
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Yeah, I already covered this about a week back on:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/wing...i-mig-21bison-su-30-mki-slayers.606001/page-9
Here guys...see who flew the Air Chief Marshall in last years (2018) 23rd March Flay Past in the F-16.
Check Timescodes:
00:06 - Wing Commander Nouman Ali Khan putting the patch on the Air Chief Marshall
00:12 - Standing next to Air Chief Marshall before the flight for the Flypast in a 2-seater F-16.
He is also part of the 3000 Flight Hours Club on the F-16
Here he (Wing Commander Nouman Ali Khan) is during Red Flag in 2010
Check Timecodes:
00:51 - After landing at Nellis AFS
01:22 - Getting ready to go on a Mission (Check the number on the F-16: 620)
03:10 - After Mission - You can't see him, but again check the number on the F-16 (90620)
I think we can merge this Topic with: Wing Commander Noman Ali Khan & Squadron Leader Hassan Siddqui, MIG-21Bison & SU-30 MKI slayers
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JF-17 did the job. Sorry my friend no fame for USA here. F-16 is a good jet one of the best out there but it was J which made the play. No fame for USA today.
Black panthers are trained to kill F-16 in air as well that is why they were used.
Black panther fly JF-17
Black panthers are trained to kill F-16 in air as well that is why they were used.
Black panther fly JF-17
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In your world....
But it's obvious to most. Only here is there resistance to fact in favor of sticking with the original story. Like India with their fantasy shoot-down.
I have a feeling there are some non-civilians involved so I'll just back out and let it be. Cheers.
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Sorry bro no beef against F-16 but black panthers are not 16 they are 17. You can check what they fly and come back to me. I believe in fact not fiction.
I would have agreed with you if the squad used was falcons as they fly F-16 but these were pure panthers and panthers fly JF-17. Training against F-16 is part of panthers and panthers were used because of Israeli involvement in India so surprise bro.
Panthers will be the first to receive JF-17 block 3 when ever the jet enters service they are elite I agree with you there.
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Why do we still have this crap if it was F16 or JF17?
If the former air chief has confirmed it was 2 x JF17 with 2 x BVR and 2 x IAF
Why still the discussion
If PAF is not a creditable source what is ?
A former air chief would lie to make false hero’s ? Are we in need of fake hero’s when our history is filled with real ones
Let’s stick to facts
If the former air chief has confirmed it was 2 x JF17 with 2 x BVR and 2 x IAF
Why still the discussion
If PAF is not a creditable source what is ?
A former air chief would lie to make false hero’s ? Are we in need of fake hero’s when our history is filled with real ones
Let’s stick to facts
We understand your point. The man is an ace fighter pilot of F-16. But as pointed out many times here on PDF, most of the Thunder pilots came from F-16 squadrons in PAF. So, it might have been the case that he was switched to Thunder long ago rather than just recently on emergency basis. Just my 2 cents.
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A correction, Pakistanis are not biggest fans of American Policies and history of American relationship towards Pakistan.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/297979/nato-jets-attack-checkpost-on-pak-afghan-border/
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They never 'double crossed' us. We had our interests and they had theirs. Both knew it. And when they diverged both sides pointed fingers. 'Double crossed' suggests one side got cheated or did something not expected. When was that?
Pakistani's need to grow up and be mature.
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So cento....no double cross.
1971 no double cross
Afghan war finished. No double cross
I could go on all day.
Some pakistani's need to wake up as well
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USA
has always double crossed us against India even though they were fully aware of our insecurities against India.
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JF-17 block2 is more advanced than F-16 block52. If USA wants the fame of AA kill give Pakistani F-16 block 70 upgrades and next time we will use them. But until then RIP. DGISPR clearly said before and so did PM of Pakistan that we have the capability and now it is proven so relax we have the capability to take on India even in the presence of SU-30 and modified Mirage 2000.
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