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NATO OFFERS INDIA TO BE A PART of F35 Programe.

why did india reject such a good offer??

I mean right now American tech is better than Russian tech. And that too was F-35.

The F-35 program has been a disaster in terms of spending, even after billions of dollars and many years, the jet is not complete and going by the news floating around in the aviation world, it capabilities are nothing ground breaking as well. India is now being looked at as a means to generate more cash for the project and that is something India does not want, Indian development with Russia will bear a much sweeter fruit in the coming years.
 
Sancho,

All your points are valid regarding FGFA.
My only dobut is on the $$$ figure of the aircraft. I know thats what Sukhoi has stated the aircraft will cost. But considering how the cost of F-35 has escalated and how the topline 4.5 Gen aircrafts cost (Euro Fighter and Rafale and now even the new MKI) my hunch is that the $100 M figure is going to hit anything between $150-$200 M. Unless Sukhoi has some kind of magic wand in their hand :cheers:

True, I also don't give too much on Russian promises on costs, or timeframes, I think we have enough experience with them, to be a bit more careful in this regard. However, even if the costs per unit would be equal to F35, it is undeniably that the partnership is a real one and we get a lot in return unlike the F35 partners. So from this point of view, it was more then the right step, I only wished that they had fixed the deal a bit faster, but on the other hand, I'm sure that there were a lot of negotiations with the Russians as well and we all know that everything goes a bit slower in India, even time. ;)

Personally I think FGFA has everything what it needs, to be an excellent 5. gen fighter, but we should try to make it even better and not just take what the Russians will have as well. For example we have to re-design it, to be a twin seat fighter, so if it's possible, a single piece canopy would be a better choice and could add to stealth some more, instead of the Russian design. The Russian cockpit design in general will probably not as futuristic as western counterparts and if we can do a better one, with Indian, or foreign parts, we should do it.
I think that will be the biggest difference in this deal, compared to MKI deal. MKI had some customisations, or modicfications for Indian needs, but mainly they were based on Russian developments (canards, TVC, BARS PESA) and the base fighter remained Russian as well. In FGFA instead, can not only choose between some modfications, but are involved in the real design as well. Of course not in the main airframe, or wing design, but minor parts like canopy, or cockpit layout, can look completelly different to Pak Fa and can be based this time on Indian developments. Small steps, but in the right directions!
 
Guys news says India will be the part of F35 project .This offer is totally unconditional as per NATO personal.This means R&D like Radar, Airframe and other better equipments then what she or other world has.

I think this is not a bad deal...........
 
True, I also don't give too much on Russian promises on costs, or timeframes, I think we have enough experience with them, to be a bit more careful in this regard. However, even if the costs per unit would be equal to F35, it is undeniably that the partnership is a real one and we get a lot in return unlike the F35 partners.
I really hope our govt. announces as to what exactly will be our role and whether we will get everything or not in TOT??/ Because its not that easy to get full tot from russia also, but yeah in the end we get it...

For example we have to re-design it, to be a twin seat fighter, so if it's possible, a single piece canopy would be a better choice and could add to stealth some more, instead of the Russian design.
According to me, a twin seat version would effect the stealth of the fighter. This is not just me, if you would read some of the russian articles, then you would understand.
 
anyway indian navy will buy 50 odd F-35 in 2020-2025 ...

let them first complete the project and start production lines....
 
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