Muslim Azerbaijan: Bucking the Anti-Semitic Trend in Europe | Commentary

[Nefer]

How can mirrors be real if our eyes arent real?

0_o, uhm xenon I need you in this realm not in the spirited realm.

, I just wish for a Turkey with no such complicated shady background stuff.

Uhm.. give it 5 - 9 more years. :s

There was never a coup attempt to begin with, it was the outcome of AKP-Gülen flirting isnt it obvious?

Uhm.... there is still a trial lets wait for the results first

 

[Turkish_FR]

Sudden enlightenment i guess... everything was good for you guys when they were jailing the Generals but nowadays even goverment agrees it was unfair to jail them.

We have to jail everyone even if there is a slightest doubt about them, got no other chance to save our country which is complately ruled by Westerners since Atatur. We dont apply Western kind of democracy and we dont apply Western kind of secularims. This is not a request or wish, this is a fight, between you and us. Forget about your democracy and secularims, these concepts does not mean the same thing for you and for us.

 

[usernameless]

We have to jail everyone even if there is a slightest doubt about them, got no other chance to save our country which is complately ruled by Westerners since Atatur. We dont apply Western kind of democracy and we dont apply Western kind of secularims. This is not a request or wish, this is a fight, between you and us. Forget about your democracy and secularims, these concepts does not mean the same thing for you and for us.

is that not going toooo far, sis? What needs to be done is eliminating Gulen's influence, because obviously his movement is in every layer of the state as has been demonstrated. Today akp is the victim for confronting them, tomorrow it could be chp or mhp once they fall out with Gulen. at least these parties can be voted out democratically while scum like Gulen will continue to leech in the background. we should continue in another thread, because we keep going off topic.

 

[hussain0216]

the fact is that no Arab country pisses on Palestinians that "on fire" only bla bla and cheap talk
wake up! Palestinian are the biggest headache of Arabs, no one really cares about them, look to their border with Egypt, they closed the border becase realize the true fact!
so contunie to bla bla see u on 2080

What do we care what the harami arab governments do, **** em they are corrupt to the core

the world muslim population is now 1.7 billon and growing the muslim population is growing within israel and around israel , we will crack you by sheer weight of numbers and destroy your dream of a jew state, you will be forced to become a truly apartheid state to retain your jew nation status quo with a rising arab/muslim population



if the Azerbaijan have sold their souls for jew money then **** them to any ally of Israel is an enemy for muslims everywhere

 

[Nefer]

is that not going toooo far, sis? What needs to be done is eliminating Gulen's influence, because obviously his movement is in every layer of the state as has been demonstrated. Today akp is the victim for confronting them, tomorrow it could be chp or mhp once they fall out with Gulen. at least these parties can be voted out democratically while scum like Gulen will continue to leech in the background. we should continue in another thread, because we keep going off topic.

We Turks have a certain habit which we need to get controlled, Acting on emotions and feelings, This habit can be found from in the entire political spectrum. And in this forums many Turks are having that habit, looking to stuff emotionally and blinding them seeing the whole picture, coming to what she said, I know where she is coming from with her statement and can't say its wrong. Her approach is extreme, but in the right direction she just have to take a step back and not run to fast.

For the future only eliminating Gulen won't be enough, we need to educate people in critical thinking, no one and nothing between you and Allah so take your decisions accordingly and don't be anyone's toy AND!!!! the ability to look into matters and come out of it without being absorbed by it.

 

[Kyoto]

the fact is that no Arab country pisses on Palestinians that "on fire" only bla bla and cheap talk
wake up! Palestinian are the biggest headache of Arabs, no one really cares about them, look to their border with Egypt, they closed the border becase realize the true fact!
so contunie to bla bla see u on 2080

Similar to Europe's view of Israel.

 

[hussain0216]

Consider that this logic can be applied in the other way as well, and explain why we are not expected to help them as well.

That's a good question. If I was a Palestinian who knew that I cannot militarily take over my enemy in the next 5-6 decades, and each of my attacks is retaliated by n times more damages from my side, I would have come to my sense and use peaceful means. Hamas is just destroying the Palestinian cause and does no good. Also, it is the responsibilities of Jordan and Egypt, as two countries involved in the issue from the beginning, to pressure both sides to implement Oslo treaty, and two states solution.



keeping islam away from politics, keeps islam clean from defaming its reputation due to some few extremists, and also makes muslims from different sects, to become united. Also, it makes non-muslims not to be ready to harshly react whenever they hear the word Islam.

That makes no sense what you are saying is that you deny the right to the Palestinians to defend themselves against occupation and oppression

and because they don't do that the way you want you support both their oppression and oppressor


Your keeping islam away from politics means you are standing against the moral code that would condemn the jew actions of occupying muslim land and oppressing muslims

 

[xenon54 out]

is that not going toooo far, sis? What needs to be done is eliminating Gulen's influence, because obviously his movement is in every layer of the state as has been demonstrated. Today akp is the victim for confronting them, tomorrow it could be chp or mhp once they fall out with Gulen. at least these parties can be voted out democratically while scum like Gulen will continue to leech in the background. we should continue in another thread, because we keep going off topic.

Dont waste your energy people like her, they use democracy when it fits them while in fact they couldnt care less about democracy, freedom, human rights and such stuff.

 

[Nefer]

Getting back to on-topic, For people who are interested why Jews are rather disliked in the West by people who know their stuff, I present to you a teaser, An interview between a Jewish reporter and Ernst Zundel.

 

[Turkish_FR]

Dont waste your energy people like her, they use democracy when it fits them while in fact they couldnt care less about democracy, freedom, human rights and such stuff.

My purpose is not to hurt your feelings, I'm sure you also want to good of your country. My advice, look at the reaction of the World and intensity of reactions against our actions. You know we have a maxim in Turkiye, "A Turk doesnot have any friend or ally other than another Turk." Ofcourse this is just a metaphor but I'm trying to say that if all of these countries who hates Turks so much since the beginning shows excessive reactions against our actions, make sure that we are doing something good, because they will never want our favor.

 

[F-15I]

What do we care what the harami arab governments do, **** em they are corrupt to the core

the world muslim population is now 1.7 billon and growing the muslim population is growing within israel and around israel , we will crack you by sheer weight of numbers and destroy your dream of a jew state, you will be forced to become a truly apartheid state to retain your jew nation status quo with a rising arab/muslim population

we are ok with Palestinians and Arabs, only they dont want us and want to throw us to the sea and we are ok with it to... i can only say "keep growing" and god bless you


if the Azerbaijan have sold their souls for jew money then **** them to any ally of Israel is an enemy for muslims everywhere

Azerbaijan dont need Arabs, they have their own oil and gas also keeping distance from Arabs is better, less headache and less terror!

 

[Ahiska]

Good job
I dont agree with violations in Israel to the palestinians but its important to not attack or accuse all jews.
(Also since im partly jewish its nice to hear)