More than 50 ‘terrorists’ killed in French commando operations in Mali

[Ich]

Mali is essential for France cause of the uranium there. I hope France manage to build some fast burner reactors or at least build ASTRID so that they are more independend from Mali cause of closed cycle of nuclear fuel.

 

[bafxet]

I got it 50 terrorists means those muslims who would have dared stood up against them.

 

[Vergennes]

Mali is essential for France cause of the uranium there. I hope France manage to build some fast burner reactors or at least build ASTRID so that they are more independend from Mali cause of closed cycle of nuclear fuel.

The main source of uranium for France is in Niger,not Mali. It was alleged that tere's uranium in Mali,but a Canadian company explored the Malian soils and nothing.

 

[Ich]

The main source of uranium for France is in Niger,not Mali. It was alleged that tere's uranium in Mali,but a Canadian company explored the Malian soils and nothing.

Thanks for information! Regardless of that I like to see fast burner reactors in France anyway Also they help to reduce atomic waste down to only around 100 years radiation.

 

[Vortex]

this is how french military gets its training.

Same could be said about our Pak Army while fighting TTP...

Probably just locals, labelled as terrorist

Yes and even TTP were our locals labelled terrorists.

Local Resistance killed by Invaders

So TTP was local resistance killed by invaders ?

They are killing Tuareg bedouins, it is a war crime. Mali is ok with it because they have never got along with them.

RIP to the poor defenseless civilians.

What about BLA ?

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Same could be said about our Pak Army while fighting TTP...



Yes and even TTP were our locals labelled terrorists.



So TTP was local resistance killed by invaders ?



What about BLA ?

France is conducting operations OVERSEAS Pakistan is not!

 

[Vortex]

France is conducting operations OVERSEAS Pakistan is not!

Ask to those Africans governments why they requested french assistance.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Ask to those Africans governments why they requested french assistance.

few corrupt puppet leaders dont represent the common people.

 

[Vortex]

few corrupt puppet leaders dont represent the common people.

It’s to people of those countries to topple the governments if they don’t agree with their policies during elections. But check their abstention rate. Mali’s President election in 2018 roughly 50%. 24 candidates for 8 millions voters.


Sorry source is in french

https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/arti...tion-presidentielle-au-mali_5337095_3212.html

Le monde is a serious leftist journal.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

It’s to people of those countries to topple the governments if they don’t agree with their policies during elections. But check their abstention rate. Mali’s President election in 2018 roughly 50%. 24 candidates for 8 millions voters.


Sorry source is in french

https://www.lemonde.fr/afrique/arti...tion-presidentielle-au-mali_5337095_3212.html

Le monde is a serious leftist journal.

People need food to survive even if it takes to sacrifice their own vote.

 

[Vortex]

People need food to survive even if it takes to sacrifice their own vote.

Food is important for everyone. Even for you and me.

But number one cause of food shortages in Africa is civil war followed by weather catastrophe.

When civil wars start everyone shout where are the greats powers, but when they take steps if not to preempt them but at least to intervene as fast possible to avoid massacres then they become occupiers Forces.

Isn’t it to those Africans to work for their own progress ? Yes it their own duty but if you had known the very fabric of their societies you would understand that they are very tribal/ethnic based people. They have lot of difficulties to live in peace together. They have their extremism. One incident sparks full hatred massacres. Remember the Hutus and Tutsis war in Rwanda in the 90’s. Roughly 1 million killed.



I agreed on the fact that the Africans countries were ill made. But today they are reality. We cannot change this reality.

But even before the creation of those artificials countries the tribes, the différents ethnies, were often already at war. But still there is a responsibility of the powers of that times.

But today they are still divided as are some among us : because the other is Sindhi, or Baluchi, or Punjabi, or Pashtoon, or Shia, or Sunni, or Urdu speaking etc... have a look at some posts if few members the few last days here on PDF. The hate I seen here was at the same level I had seen toward me once time in my life in France. Thanks god french police was around me and the far right extremists weren’t able to harm me.

So what could or should do France ? Let them massacre each other’s ? Or should keep foot on ground there ?

Not easy to answer. But maybe the answer of France is the less wrong about all answers possible. And I fully support French support to those Africans countries who requested it.

May I also remind you what we did in Afghanistan by supporting one group over others for our own interests ?

Do you agree that Afghans we’re living in peace under the gov supported by Pakistan?

If you understand that you could easily understand also that others do also same. For good or wrong, but everyone do it when it has the power to do it.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Food is important for everyone. Even for you and me.

But number one cause of food shortages in Africa is civil war followed by weather catastrophe.

When civil wars start everyone shout where are the greats powers, but when they take steps if not to preempt them but at least to intervene as fast possible to avoid massacres then they become occupiers Forces.

Isn’t it to those Africans to work for their own progress ? Yes it their own duty but if you had known the very fabric of their societies you would understand that they are very tribal/ethnic based people. They have lot of difficulties to live in peace together. They have their extremism. One incident sparks full hatred massacres. Remember the Hutus and Tutsis war in Rwanda in the 90’s. Roughly 1 million killed.



I agreed on the fact that the Africans countries were ill made. But today they are reality. We cannot change this reality.

But even before the creation of those artificials countries the tribes, the différents ethnies, were often already at war. But still there is a responsibility of the powers of that times.

But today they are still divided as are some among us : because the other is Sindhi, or Baluchi, or Punjabi, or Pashtoon, or Shia, or Sunni, or Urdu speaking etc... have a look at some posts if few members the few last days here on PDF. The hate I seen here was at the same level I had seen toward me once time in my life in France. Thanks god french police was around me and the far right extremists weren’t able to harm me.

So what could or should do France ? Let them massacre each other’s ? Or should keep foot on ground there ?

Not easy to answer. But maybe the answer of France is the less wrong about all answers possible. And I fully support French support to those Africans countries who requested it.

May I also remind you what we did in Afghanistan by supporting one group over others for our own interests ?

Do you agree that Afghans we’re living in peace under the gov supported by Pakistan?

If you understand that you could easily understand also that others do also same. For good or wrong, but everyone do it when it has the power to do it.

woow you are presenting France as a good guy here.
French empire was one of the most brutal on face of this planet. Not to long ago they used to chop African people's heads and keep it as souvenir.
France does not give a fk about poor people of Africa. They just care about their interest in the region which is to maintain their influence for no fking good reason. Big countries like France create problems (like play both sides) in small weak poor nations so they can use that as excuse to rule over them.

As for Afg, it was never a peaceful nation once soviet invaded it.

 

[Vortex]

woow you are presenting France as a good guy here.
French empire was one of the most brutal on face of this planet. Not to long ago they used to chop African people's heads and keep it as souvenir.
France does not give a fk about poor people of Africa. They just care about their interest in the region which is to maintain their influence for no fking good reason. Big countries like France create problems (like play both sides) in small weak poor nations so they can use that as excuse to rule over them.

As for Afg, it was never a peaceful nation once soviet invaded it.

As good as any other country. Look at the history of world. You will find plenty of countries which did/are doing or will do same thing in future.

You said France? Ok
What did/are doing Saudia Iran, China, Russia, America, Israel, Japan, Germany, Netherlands, India without forgetting ourselves in Afghanistan ? And those are just an example. You can go in past centuries too you will find plenty of empires/countries which have done same.

 

[mike2000 is back]

few corrupt puppet leaders dont represent the common people.

It's true that France is still very much attached to it's African colonies. However, that's also because of necessity and shared language/history. Moreover, these French African colonies are also one of the only remaining countries where France can still exert both military,economic leverage/presence in. Reason France still has military bases in almost all its African colonies, it's also to protect their interests and maintain their leverage there, nothing wrong in that geo politically speaking . Countries are ALWAYS after their national interests, Only a fool will believe otherwise.

France is abit different from us in this regard , since we barely have any military bases in our many former colonies in Africa contrary to France. This is also due to the fact that we used different colonial rule (indirect rule) compared to France (direct rule). The French practiced direct rule where they sent oficials and soldiers from France to rule the colony. ... The British on the other hand relied on indirect rule. They used local rulers to govern the colonies, this also helped in building ruling capacity of local leaders and training of public officials to lead the country post independence, since they had experience running a country compared to some of french counterparts. This explains why France is still very involved in its French African colonies compared to Britain I suppose.

 

[hussain0216]

The French probably just murdered locals