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Global ASpirations? Take a good hard look at world opinion of India....we want global aspirations but we cannot take care of our backyard. We support an INdependent Palestine, then whats is going to stop others from declaring an Independent Kashmir. The BBC and other Muslim countries always support Kashmir over us!!! THese "forces" are ahead in making the KAshmir issue one sided. We need to pick a side....this playing both sides of the line will backfire....Sure it means a lot in a global view but what do you think countries in the world really think of us. We cannot formulate a decision wholeheartedly without causing anguish to others but that is politics. Walking a thin line is not poetics it is just confusion on our part because we make a rational decision.

Not true - Some Muslims countries like Iraq, Iran Morocco, Syria always supported India in the OIC on the Kashmir issue.

Look this is not just a simple Jew, Hindu vs Muslim issue. It has much more to it.

And I have said already many time said that Kashmir and Palestine are as comparable as chalk and cheese. Go through the Kashmir threads to read it.
 
Our position on palestine is known to Israel. No need to dilute that. We are buying hardware from them, and paying for that.
Israel gains from India's friendship too, it works both ways.


If Israel says it is not worth it, they begin to play ball with China then it is our loss. Sure the USA put the brakes on that relationship but you can already see what they have gained. Plus, israelis have a knack for stabbing Uncle Sam in the back and who know they may transfer tech secretly to China.....what if Pakistan makes an attempt to mend relations for the sake of weapons? Mushraff has already mentioned it and Mossad Chief has already signaled that he believes Mushie is the best bet for pakistan. What does that mean for India. Mushie in charge of Pakistan is a threat to us because he is the one who put China and Pakistan relationship on track and pushed reform in the military when it came to strategic planning.
 
Global ASpirations? Take a good hard look at world opinion of India....we want global aspirations but we cannot take care of our backyard. We support an INdependent Palestine, then whats is going to stop others from declaring an Independent Kashmir. The BBC and other Muslim countries always support Kashmir over us!!! THese "forces" are ahead in making the KAshmir issue one sided. We need to pick a side....this playing both sides of the line will backfire....Sure it means a lot in a global view but what do you think countries in the world really think of us. We cannot formulate a decision wholeheartedly without causing anguish to others but that is politics. Walking a thin line is not poetics it is just confusion on our part because we make a rational decision.

Cool down buddy. Take a coconut and drink cola.

Foreign policy is all about walking a thin line. USA is master of this art.

US never stopped passing weapons,funds to India's rival and still US ambassador calls India a "strategic partner". Why so? Because US has self-interests behind it, call it anything then.

Compare this to India. India never sold weapons to Palestine, which can harm its interests with Israelis. Secondly, India relies heavily on Oil-supply from Gulf. Can Israel replace huge gulf oil-suppliers and feed energy demand of India? Simple answer - No.

Even obama bows to Arabs. Why cry about India, Mr. Ambassador?

Bottomline is, Israeli ambassador know all this very well and he overreacted. And, I think he has a right to overreact. Everyone does.
 
First comparing Kashmir with Israel-Palestine is ridiculous. Also your view about Muslims and Muslim countries is not true. What do you mean by 'we'? USA?

No I mean India....and what is ridiculous about the views of Muslim countries.........I am not referring to individual people but their respective governments......they vote in Bloc against India's interests on Kashmir.....FACT

Recently look at how the Libyan dictator brought up kashmir in comparison to the crisis in Libya..
 
Cool down buddy. Take a coconut and drink cola.

Foreign policy is all about walking a thin line. USA is master of this art.

US never stopped passing weapons,funds to India's rival and still US ambassador calls India a "strategic partner". Why so? Because US has self-interests behind it, call it anything then.

Compare this to India. India never sold weapons to Palestine, which can harm its interests with Israelis. Secondly, India relies heavily on Oil-supply from Gulf. Can Israel replace huge gulf oil-suppliers and feed energy demand of India? Simple answer - No.

Even obama bows to Arabs. Why cry about India, Mr. Ambassador?

Bottomline is, Israeli ambassador know all this very well and he overreacted. And, I think he has a right to overreact. Everyone does.



India trained palestine guerrillas in Cuba.... but I see your point..BTW why did you report me
 
If Israel says it is not worth it, they begin to play ball with China then it is our loss. Sure the USA put the brakes on that relationship but you can already see what they have gained. Plus, israelis have a knack for stabbing Uncle Sam in the back and who know they may transfer tech secretly to China.....

If Israel wants to play ball with China, they will do so with or without India. Can India replace huge China market? - No.

Secondly, there is nothing like back-stabbing unkil here. Boeing is opening a factory in China to make jumbo sized Civilian Jets(737) and it has full support of American Govt. in that. Where is argument of democracy? Well, such arguments are merely tools to play balls. At bottom, it's pure business.

If tomorrow, USA has to choose one between India and China, it will choose China if it hurts its own business interests. They won't watch american businesses going down for the sake of India's interests.

Update yourself buddy. There are no sentiments here, every country is making $$. India is doing the right thing, protecting its huge Gulf-oil contracts by not acting in "moralistic" manner on Palestine issue.
 
And, if you think that US is not open about selling F-18's to China then you are wrong. There was a similar offer made to China in past, but Chinese didn't want any notion of American firms controlling military supply lines on Chinese soil, to Chinese Military so it was refused.

Its all about business empires.
 
Mushraff has already mentioned it and Mossad Chief has already signaled that he believes Mushie is the best bet for pakistan. What does that mean for India. Mushie in charge of Pakistan is a threat to us because he is the one who put China and Pakistan relationship on track and pushed reform in the military when it came to strategic planning.
Musharaf was thrown out his country man....you forgot or what ??/

No I mean India....and what is ridiculous about the views of Muslim countries.........I am not referring to individual people but their respective governments......they vote in Bloc against India's interests on Kashmir.....FACT

Recently look at how the Libyan dictator brought up kashmir in comparison to the crisis in Libya..
Kashmir is an issue on which every country ranging from Libya to New Zealand to Canada is allowed to talk about once in a while but action is strictly prohibited.

India trained palestine guerrillas in Cuba.... but I see your point..BTW why did you report me
And you know this how ??? Also everybody knew that India didin't had good relations with Israel until 1990 but now situation is changed.

And, if you think that US is not open about selling F-18's to China then you are wrong.
You are wrong about this....US won't sell those to China. They never did to Russia also. Russia has a modernisation plan of 650-700 billion $ for this decade but US won't let Russia buy from Nato nations.
 
come on guys , Israel is not only a partner but a close friend too , we have stated that How India fell about palestine , rest is in their hands... we should not cross the line and harm our warm friendship. Palestine should be left for the middle east brotherhood nations to tackle and solve.

1995, India pledged, and met, US$1 million for assistance to the Palestinian people.
1996, India pledged another US$1 million in assistance to the Palestinians, which was utilised for construction of a Library-cum-Activity Centre at the

Palestinian Technical College in Deir-El-Balah and another Library at the Al-Azhar University in Gaza.

1998, India pledged another US$1 million as assistance to Palestine.
sum of US$ 300,000/- had been disbursed to Al-Azhar University in Gaza for the construction of two additional floors to its library

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh who announced an assistance of US$20 million to the Palestinian Authority and promised to do all New Delhi can to help it in the PNA's endeavours

India offered 51 specialised security training slots to Palestinians in various disciplines during the year 1997-98, which accounted for an estimated expenditure of Rs. 55 lakhs. India also continued to offer 8 scholarships under ICCR Schemes to Palestinian students for higher studies in India, while also offering several slots for training courses under the ITEC Programme.

India was the first non-Arab country to contemporaneously recognize the Palestine Liberation Organization's authority as "the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people.

Following the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 2006, India came out, surprisingly, saying Israeli use of force was "disproportionate and excessive

India participated in the 2007 Annapolis Conference and the consequent donors conference. India's government noted the direct relevance for India on the issue and favoured the creation of "sovereign, independent, united states of Palestine" asserting that its support for the cause remains unwavered

WE DO OUR BIT , REST let Arabs handle ...
 

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