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'Make in India' and 'Made in China' not zero-sum game

By Li Tao and Qin Weina Source:Global Times Published: 2019/2/28


India's first semi high-speed rail, the Vande Bharat, has become the focus of attention over the past few days, as various "accidents" reported by the Indian media have once again triggered discussion and even mockery of India's manufacturing initiatives. Some people seem to be ballyhooing the idea of a "dragon-elephant rivalry" by claiming that "Made in India" labels will replace those that say "Made in China," which is not consistent with the actual situation.

In September 2014, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi launched the ambitious "Make in India" initiative, aimed at turning the country into a global manufacturing hub and raising manufacturing's proportion of the GDP to 25 percent within 10 years.

Based on the experience of countries that have undergone economic transition, a mature manufacturing sector is the key to maintaining high economic growth. The 2008 global financial crisis and the subsequent anti-globalization sentiments further highlighted the importance of manufacturing in economic development. However, India's manufacturing sector generally accounts for 15 to 17 percent of GDP, far below the 25 to 40 percent shares reported by developed countries and other emerging economies.

The reason is mainly that India has chosen a different industrialization path from the West and China, focusing on its technology-intensive, service-oriented industrial model. As the country gave priority to the development of a technology-intensive sector, its IT and software services have reached an advanced level globally, earning it the nickname "the world's back-office."

Yet, as the Indian economy has developed, its imbalanced industrial structure and high unemployment rate have become increasingly serious, as the services industry is limited in creating jobs. Despite the rapid development and high output value, the software, financial, telecommunications and other services industries contribute very little to employment, while traditional services such as wholesale, retail and transportation may create a large number of jobs, but contribute little to GDP. Therefore, to make use of its demographic dividend, adjust industrial structure and increase jobs, the Modi government has decided to promote the "Make in India" initiative.

While the "Make in India" initiative has indeed achieved certain progress over the years, there is still a gap between the policy's effectiveness and the original intention of the Modi government.

Some Chinese have mocked "Made in India," while others believe Indian manufacturing could pose a threat to China's manufacturing sector. In our opinion, "Made in India" is now facing a similar situation as "Made in China" in some respects, which is why we should take an objective view toward it.

First of all, the export volume of China's manufacturing sector has been ranked first in the world for years, while exports of India's manufacturing are still far behind China, despite its rising trend.

Second, China has been moving up the global value chain to shift from input- and market-driven industrialization to a technology-driven model. With the diminishing advantage of labor-intensive manufacturing in China, it is essential for its manufacturing sector to transform. Meanwhile, India's industrialization path is just the opposite of China, shifting from a technology-driven model to a market- and input-driven one to create more jobs and give play to its demographic dividend. The difference between China's and India's manufacturing development stages indicates room for cooperation for the two countries in matching their manufacturing strategies. By using India's labor cost advantage and China's capital and technology advantages, both sides can jointly improve their manufacturing levels to achieve mutual benefit and common development.

Third, industrial competition is weak, while there are many complementarities between manufacturing industries in China and India. They mainly compete in industries like food processing and manufacturing, beverages, textiles and other primary products, oil processing, coking, and nonferrous metal, while they are complementary in medical equipment manufacturing, transportation equipment manufacturing, special equipment manufacturing and other capital- and technology-intensive industries. In terms of trade, China has maintained a relatively high surplus against India. But if the two countries can adjust their trade structure based on their own advantages and disadvantages, bilateral trade may see greater improvement, releasing their trade potential accordingly.

In this sense, we are not against the idea of the smooth development of the "Make in India" initiative, which could help form a large regional manufacturing cluster to cover East Asia, Southeast Asia and South Asia. Its success will not only be conducive to the development of China-India relations and facilitate the building of the "Asian Century," but will also help enhance the global industrial chain and push forward progress in globalization.

Li Tao is executive director of the Institute of South Asian Studies at Sichuan University. Qin Weina is a PhD student at the Center for Security and Development of Western Frontier China of Sichuan University.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1140503.shtml
 
IQ 82 will never match 105.
It's not really a matter of IQ - you don't need all that much IQ to sew shirts. It's a cultural issue of complete lack of discipline and order, and rampant criminality. Why would an "Instagram Superstar" who thinks the world owes him everything ever go to work in a factory when he can roam the filth-ridden streets, stealing and raping?
 
IQ just show how well people take the test.

Its how hard a person work that makes a difference. A person improve by working hard, not by being prideful of the caste where they were born.
Not entirely true. You do need logical thinking to make or create something. If you have low IQ, I'll need to explain to you a 1000 times to do a simple task. It has everything to do with IQ.

It's not really a matter of IQ - you don't need all that much IQ to sew shirts. It's a cultural issue of complete lack of discipline and order, and rampant criminality. Why would an "Instagram Superstar" who thinks the world owes him everything ever go to work in a factory when he can roam the filth-ridden streets, stealing and raping?
I think I replied to @faithfulguy what I think.
 
It's not really a matter of IQ - you don't need all that much IQ to sew shirts. It's a cultural issue of complete lack of discipline and order, and rampant criminality. Why would an "Instagram Superstar" who thinks the world owes him everything ever go to work in a factory when he can roam the filth-ridden streets, stealing and raping?
no it's IQ. you can't do high tech manufacturing with majority of population with low IQ.

http://www.unz.com/anepigone/average-iq-by-occupation-estimated-from_18/
most indians only qualify as dishwashers

Not entirely true. You do need logical thinking to make or create something. If you have low IQ, I'll need to explain to you a 1000 times to do a simple task. It has everything to do with IQ.


I think I replied to @faithfulguy what I think.
yes. it drives me nuts at work to train people who should not be doing financial reporting and analysis.
 
I think I replied to @faithfulguy what I think.
I don't disagree with what you said, I just say that taking a piece of cloth and pulling it across a sewing machine is not a complicated task you need to explain 1000 times over. The only reason robots don't do it is they lack the tactile perception and manual dexterity to manipulate cloth.

no it's IQ. you can't do high tech manufacturing with majority of population with low IQ.

http://www.unz.com/anepigone/average-iq-by-occupation-estimated-from_18/
most indians only qualify as dishwashers
That chart is just horsesh*t. LMFAO at "surgeons" having an average IQ of 234. That would mean there are less than 50 surgeons around the world. LOL even harder at dentists being above mathematicians in IQ. I get the thrust of what you're trying to say and mostly agree, but Make in India isn't about high-tech manufacturing. It's the lowest-tech, most labor intensive manufacturing like textiles.

Nobody sane thinks India is about to have a leading semiconductor industry. All the Indians of > 120 IQ have jobs in America. Either that or phone scams.

I forgot to mention another very serious impediment: infrastructure. India's infrastructure is just atrocious, and there's no way to have serious manufacturing without serious infrastructure. Good luck building building a road or rail line in India when every single farmer whose land it would cut across can sue you for the next thousand years, because "democracy."
 
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I don't disagree with what you said, I just say that taking a piece of cloth and pulling it across a sewing machine is not a complicated task you need to explain 1000 times over. The only reason robots don't do it is they lack the tactile perception and manual dexterity to manipulate cloth.


That chart is just horsesh*t. LMFAO at "surgeons" having an average IQ of 234. That would mean there are less than 50 surgeons around the world. LOL even harder at dentists being above mathematicians in IQ. I get the thrust of what you're trying to say and mostly agree, but Make in India isn't about high-tech manufacturing. It's the lowest-tech, most labor intensive manufacturing like textiles.

Nobody sane thinks India is about to have a leading semiconductor industry. All the Indians of > 120 IQ have jobs in America. Either that or phone scams.

I forgot to mention another very serious impediment: infrastructure. India's infrastructure is just atrocious, and there's no way to have serious manufacturing without serious infrastructure. Good luck building building a road or rail line in India when every single farmer whose land it would cut across can sue you for the next thousand years, because "democracy."
I don't disagree with you either. But there are tasks where IQ does come into play.
Like, what's the IQ of a chimpanzee? Around 70? I could teach a chimpanzee how to ride a bike but it will not ride it as perfect as you or me.
I do agree some low level tasks like you said pulling a cloth over a sewing machine or a security guard at an airport can be achieved with low IQ. But we're talking about India and China.
I hope you know what I am getting at. :D
So basically, I was talking about entire type of manufacturing done in China.
Have you seen India's Train 18? You should look it up on YouTube.
 
Have to agree with @rott here.
It takes a lot of brain and hard work to come up with methodologies to make things faster, cheaper and reasonably durable at a low price.
Hard work alone is NOT enough.
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I don't disagree with what you said, I just say that taking a piece of cloth and pulling it across a sewing machine is not a complicated task you need to explain 1000 times over. The only reason robots don't do it is they lack the tactile perception and manual dexterity to manipulate cloth.


That chart is just horsesh*t. LMFAO at "surgeons" having an average IQ of 234. That would mean there are less than 50 surgeons around the world. LOL even harder at dentists being above mathematicians in IQ. I get the thrust of what you're trying to say and mostly agree, but Make in India isn't about high-tech manufacturing. It's the lowest-tech, most labor intensive manufacturing like textiles.

Nobody sane thinks India is about to have a leading semiconductor industry. All the Indians of > 120 IQ have jobs in America. Either that or phone scams.

I forgot to mention another very serious impediment: infrastructure. India's infrastructure is just atrocious, and there's no way to have serious manufacturing without serious infrastructure. Good luck building building a road or rail line in India when every single farmer whose land it would cut across can sue you for the next thousand years, because "democracy."
it's a little bit exaggerated but if you look at accountsnts IQ (Minimum to be successful) it's around 112 or higher. Lawyers around 130 is what ither sites say. Anything with IQ less than 95, good luck teaching them to be successful engineers or software programmers.
 

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