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London attack: 130 imams condemn attackers and refuse to perform funeral prayer for them

I feel sorry for Ahmadya and Shia who commit no violence. They got bad reputation out of bad luck.

Islam is not violent if we observe the Ahmadi and Shia.
LOL!
Ahmadis are not muslims, you Indian rat pretending to be Chinese.

You have been reported Indian dirt douchebag!

As for shias what about Hezbollah and and other terrorist shia outfits in the middle east.
 
Hezbollah are resistance movement that beheads nobody, and protects the gentile.

Hezbollah should be praised for carrying out restrain resistance against Israel.

I have not seen Hezbollah conducting indiscriminate killings like the Sunni outfits such as ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Nice try indian rat. Hezbollah are terrorists according to USA and Saudi Arabia
 
Not if they got repeatedly fatwa-ed as Kafir. Not sure if M Ali Jinah is Kafir?
Shias are muslim as well, however they are not mainstream

Not if they got repeatedly fatwa-ed as Kafir. Not sure if M Ali Jinah is Kafir?
Jinnah died as a Sunni muslim since it is said he prayed in the Sunni way

Probably some of you guys just declared them kafir.

This has been repeated over and over.
Nobody declared shias as kafir, you indian swine
 
The guys who did it are not from Syria or any other place where their country of origin has been bombed by NATO .

The main guys father came seeking asylum and this scumbag was no way connected to any of the places where NATO was involved .stop justifying these terrorists

You can't deny that these attacks are most likely connected to Syria. These nutjobs sympathize with that cause and by acting violently they are undoing their own cause.

There needs to be a fullfledged debate on the war in Syria. The society at large needs to know what is going on covertly. Why are certain US allies involved in that war and what is the purpose? Not some vague explanation to defeat ISIS or overthrow Assad. There is more to it. A lot of innocent lives have been lost on both sides of the isle. Enough is enough.
 
You have no evidence for him bein khawarij, please don't make such stupid allegations.

You do realise that I have met these individuals and debated them on their beliefs. They are not "stupid allegations" and I've dealt with them and others of their ilk for years. Quit having a soft spot for him and respect those who know what's going on, as quite clearly you don't. What's even more ironic is that you're sitting in a different country trying to tell me what's going on in mine.
On another note if you speak to me like that one more time i.e. I'm making stupid allegations you will not be posting here. Speak to people in a civil manner.
 
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You do realise that I have met these individuals and debated them on their beliefs. They are not "stupid allegations" and I've dealt with them and others of their ilk for years. Quit having a soft spot for him and respect those who know what's going on, as quite clearly you don't. What's even more ironic is that you're sitting in a different country trying to tell me what's going on in mine.
On another note if you speak to me like that one more time i.e. I'm making stupid allegations you will not be posting here. Speak to people in a civil manner.
You guys much soft on these type just kick his talibonic axx hardly and put him on permanent ban. Please?

It's not him it's Zia's ghost trying to keep coming. MY humble apologies for Iranian.
 
You do realise that I have met these individuals and debated them on their beliefs. They are not "stupid allegations" and I've dealt with them and others of their ilk for years. Quit having a soft spot for him and respect those who know what's going on, as quite clearly you don't. What's even more ironic is that you're sitting in a different country trying to tell me what's going on in mine.
On another note if you speak to me like that one more time i.e. I'm making stupid allegations you will not be posting here. Speak to people in a civil manner.

I was and am being perfectly civil, don't abuse your mod powers.

Funny you mention me being from another country, I was born and raised in the UK and have a British passport. So I am perfectly knowledgable about the place mind you.

Yes, those allegations were stupid. You can call them evil, but just because someone is evil and Muslim doesn't mean they are the khawarij. In order to be considered part of the Khawarij, these attackers would have had to do a lot more than just shoot people. They would have to consider people kafir purely for sinning too much (or committing any sin at all), they would have to be soft with the kuffar and hard on the disbelievers, they would have to have great Islamic knowledge and recitation capability, they would have to consider all other interpretations as of Islam as the equivalence of kufr, etc. There are a bunch of characteristics that need to be fulfilled. These men don't fit the label you give them because they don't have all the characteristics.


He's right though. They just put on an Islamic label, and they can't even get that right.

You guys much soft on these type just kick his talibonic axx hardly and put him on permanent ban. Please?

Hahaha so now me saying someone isn't khawarij makes me a terrorist?

People on this forum are really getting sensitive these days, or maybe I didn't notice till now.

We need to expel these rats out of our ranks.

All these extremists need to be isolated, reported to the authorities, condemned widely, shunned from muslim social circles. Refusing funeral services and Janaza for these guys is a bold gesture.

The Muslim community in Britain needs to be vocal, visible and very active in leading the fightback against the extremism and terrorist scum.

Everyone deserves a funeral service and prayer, even if they're the lowest of the low.
 
Iran is not an Islamic country
Yeah, ISIS, AL-Qaeda, Al-Nusra, and the rest of Takfiri terrorists share the same opinion!
It's not surprising.

This don't mean anything much.

The Sunni institution shows more sincerity if both Al Azhar and Grand Mufti of Saudi declare ISIS kafir(Did they? Keep me updated)
Azhar cleric excludes Salafists from Sunnis, irks Saudis - PressTV
Mon Sep 5, 2016 1:51PM
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Photo shows Sunni Muslim scholars attending a gathering in the city of Grozny, Chechnya.


Saudi clerics have reacted angrily to recent remarks by Egyptian Grand Imam of al-Azhar, Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, who excluded Salafists from Sunnis during a religious conference in Chechnya, Russia.

During a conference in Grozny, Chechnya, Sheikh Tayeb said that Salafists were not Sunnists, while he was defining what is meant by Sunnism.

The online Arabic-language Ray al-Youm website said in a report on Monday that the remarks caused a storm of anger among pro-government clerics in Saudi Arabia.

They said the rhetoric used by the Egyptian cleric during the conference was more in line with a policy to weaken Wahhabism practiced in Saudi Arabia and establish a new, dominant Sunni leadership under the auspices of al-Azhar in Egypt.

According to the report, several Saudi clerics said the conference, attended by thinkers from Egypt and other Sunni-dominated countries, was an attempt by the Russian government to deepen the gap between Saudi Arabia and Egypt -- two leading Sunni Muslim nations of the world.

The Russian initiative was meant to sow discord in the Islamic world, they claimed, saying the conference targets the Kingdom.

The report comes just one day after the General Secretariat of the Council of Senior Scholars in Riyadh warned against what it called inciting and stoking sedition among Muslims belonging to different schools of thought.

“It is not prudent to ignite crises and trigger misadventures of political nature, as well as intellectual affiliations and sloganeering, to demonize the Muslims and thereby widening divisions,” the council said in a statement carried by the official Saudi Press Agency.

More than 100 Muslim clerics from various countries, including Russia, Syria, Turkey, India, Britain, Lebanon, Egypt, South Africa and Jordan, attended the Grozny conference on August 25-17 to disassociate themselves and Sunnism from the Takfiri terrorist groups that have been wreaking havoc in the Middle East and other places.

The scholar attendees, most of them well-known in the Muslim world, said the groups like Daesh, which fight under the banner of Wahhabism, have no links to Sunnism altogether.

The Saudi government, along with its allies, has been among the main sponsors of Takfiri militants.

According to reports, the Riyadh regime has recently stepped up its support for Takfiri militants in the face of the Iraqi army's upcoming liberation of Mosul and the Syrian army's advances in Aleppo and elsewhere.

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in fact, Saudi clerics were excluded from this Sunni scholar conference.
 
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