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Kurds feel betrayed by the US

Say whatever you want about trump , so far he hasn't start any new feuds or war , In fact he is trying to wrap up wars and bring US soldiers back .
Umm...to be frank, i dont believe Trump has done any real actual drawdown in the ME. Afghanistan war is still on. He pulled troops out of Syria, but returned them. He sent additional 3K troops to Saudis because they started peeing on themselves after Iranian oil attack. He has kept his troops in Iraq. Trump is a FUKN liar idiot. he keeps telling Americans he will get out of the wars but which one has he pulled out of though???
 
First time in many years US is finally making sensible decisions , Syria is not their fight , so no point in getting in every war in ME as mercenaries . Say whatever you want about trump , so far he hasn't start any new feuds or war , In fact he is trying to wrap up wars and bring US soldiers back .

They are the Afghan namak harams of the middle east

Why should I care let them suffer.

Kurds are the biggest traitors to the Muslim Ummah.

As a Turk they betrayed us and killed numerous of our citizens while at the same time they spread their toxic hate of Turkiye and the Turkish nation.

strikingly resembling looks as well..

How Syria is Pakistan's fight, than! care to explain?
It's actually Pakistan and Afghanistan, playing the role of mercenaries! May be you aren't aware, but at least all Arab world knows about Pakistan's dirty role in Iraq /Syria war!

They can suffer for all I care.

The US owes nothing to the (t)urds, did they storm Normandy with the US? Did they provide assistance during the civil war? No, there is no benefit for America to remain and subsidise the (t)urds existence. Their fight with ISIS or Turkey or whatever other country they've pissed off is their fight and their fight only.
@Foggy_Bottom Turned your back on your only ally in the ME?
Seems like your fellow Pakistanis have ridiculed your concern trolling for Kurds here. :suicide2:
 
Why should I care let them suffer.

Kurds are the biggest traitors to the Muslim Ummah.

As a Turk they betrayed us and killed numerous of our citizens while at the same time they spread their toxic hate of Turkiye and the Turkish nation.
Add to that most of the smuggling, drug trafficking, and prostitution in the Turkish cities and in Europe is run by them yet the Turks get bad name in Germany and other countries because of them
 
Seems like your fellow Pakistanis have ridiculed your concern trolling for Kurds here.

Mt post is not ridicule for anyone , I just like one thing about Trump that he is actually talking about ending wars, bringing US soldiers back home, and he wants to put Americans and America first .. Unlike Obama who was a good Con man and liar .
 
1. First of all, Kurds betrayed themselves. They've built nothing for themselves (other than in Iraqi Kurdistan) politically and they shouldn't have over relied on the US. US always "plays " with Kurds..........as long as the result of this play ends/is in US advantage.

2. Afghans are NOT like Kurds in anyway. At least Afghans have a country to call theirs. They might hate tensions between their groups, but they all still have Afghanistan as their ethnic and geographical country.
 
Mt post is not ridicule for anyone , I just like one thing about Trump that he is actually talking about ending wars, bringing US soldiers back home, and he wants to put Americans and America first .. Unlike Obama who was a good Con man and liar .

Are Kurds not Muslims too?
 
Kurdish kids were drafted against their will to fight in Syria. Various news agencies documented this. Kurds were betrayed by Washington in supporting the PKK.
 
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Ibrahim Hassan says he has nothing left in his home.

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A woman sits with a young child at a shelter for people fleeing war in northern Syria.

Al Hasakah, Syria (CNN) — It was just a few weeks ago, on a sunny day in early October, when Ibrahim Hassan stood snapping photos of his children smiling with American soldiers in his hometown of Ras al-Ain.

The regular US patrols gave the Kurdish construction worker a reassuring sense of security against the chaotic backdrop of Syria's civil war. The troops were a sign of the long-term alliance between the US and Kurdish forces, which fought ISIS in northern Syria and provided critical intelligence that led to the death of terrorist leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

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Ibrahim Hassan was glad to photograph his son with a US serviceman. But he said he felt betrayed when the Americans changed their mission.

A few days after the photos were taken, those soldiers were pulled from the border area and a Turkish military offensive against Kurdish forces began, cleared after a telephone conversation between US President Donald Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Artillery rained down on Ras al-Ain and Hassan loaded his wife and five children into a car and fled.

Now, the photos stir anger and confusion. "We thought America is strong and we were happy with this," Hassan says of how life used to be.

"But since America betrayed us, every time I look at these photos of my children with the Americans, I want to erase them. Now we hear and we see on the television, America saying they're only here for the oil. What about the innocent people who were depending on you here? Where is your responsibility? Why did you betray these people? Why did Trump do this?"

Hassan and his family now live in a drafty classroom in a school in the city of Al Hasakah that has been turned into a shelter for those displaced by Turkey's military offensive. A stack of mattresses leans against the wall. One of his sons from the photographs stares at us from the corner as we talk.

Hassan's words are laced with bitterness and a potent sense of betrayal that is shared by many here that the US did not do more to protect the Kurds from Turkey's onslaught. It was the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), made up primarily of Kurdish fighters, who were America's strongest ally in the battle against ISIS. More than 10,000 of them were killed in that fight.

A "safe zone" was agreed between the US and Turkey days after the invasion began, that was to include Hassan's home in Ras al-Ain. Trump promised it would be "a much more peaceful and stable area." To Hassan, those are empty words.

Hunched under a puffy coat to stave off the cold, he drags deeply on his cigarette as he shows us a video of what remains of his home. The house appears to have been ransacked. One room has been burned. Hassan says his was one of many homes in his Kurdish neighborhood that were targeted for looting by Turkish-backed forces.

"Before they burned it, they took everything. And after they took all our belongings, they set it on fire and burned it all. Now nothing is left behind. No home, no kitchen."

Nearly 180,000 people have been displaced in the wake of the Turkey's push into northern Syria. The stated goal of the military operation became to create a "safe zone" 30 kilometers (19 miles) deep along the border area that has been cleared of the Kurdish-led SDF that Turkey views as an extension of the separatist Kurdistan Workers' Party, known by the acronym PKK group.

But at the Twayn camp for the displaced near the town of Tal Tamr, some fear that the real aim is to push Kurdish people out of the area completely and change its ethnic makeup forever.

Almost all of the 3,000 people in Twayn are from Ras al-Ain, a town on the border with Turkey. Ras al-Ain used to be 75% Kurdish, according to a local monitoring group. Now, they say, there are just a handful of Kurds left.

Conditions in the camp are bleak. The terrain is bare and rocky. At night, temperatures plunge below freezing.

Fatima, 31, tells us bitterly that it is impossible to live decently there.
"There's no bread, no milk for the children, the water is bad. It's cold and we don't have proper mattresses to sleep on."
She says, she doesn't know that she will ever be able to return home.

Turkey has done little to alleviate her fears. As the Kurds have poured out of the border areas, Arabs have been bussed in -- Syrian refugees whom Turkish authorities claim are originally from these areas.

After eight years of civil war, Syria is full of stories of people forced from their homes. Every phase of the conflict seems to bring with it a new upheaval.
In the small Christian village of Tal Nasr, we find more families from Ras al-Ain, sheltering in the ruins of a destroyed church.

ISIS drove Christians from this area when it was in control. Five years later, ISIS has been virtually defeated but the Christians have yet to come back. Now the village provides refuge for another group of people forced from their homes with no sense of a possible return.

As we prepare to leave, a tall Kurdish fighter with silver hair called Ramadan approaches and asks where we are from. We are American reporters, we tell him. He pauses for a moment before speaking.

"In the beginning ISIS was a common enemy for America and the Kurds. We were brothers in arms," he says. "American soldiers should have been the first ones on the front lines when Turkey attacked."

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/11/26/middleeast/syria-kurds-safe-zone-ward/index.html?r=https://edition.cnn.com/






ANYONE who doesn't belong to the White-Western European-Anglo-Saxon-protestant race who thinks the Americans are their allies who will come to their rescue needs to either see a psychiatrist or a doctor for having a severely low IQ, borderline retard. Perhaps both.
 
Why should I care let them suffer.

Kurds are the biggest traitors to the Muslim Ummah.

As a Turk they betrayed us and killed numerous of our citizens while at the same time they spread their toxic hate of Turkiye and the Turkish nation.

In fact the biggest traitors are among Muslim ummah.
 
ANYONE who doesn't belong to the White-Western European-Anglo-Saxon-protestant race who thinks the Americans are their allies who will come to their rescue needs to either see a psychiatrist or a doctor for having a severely low IQ, borderline retard. Perhaps both.

Kurds are whores and have always been when I say this Turks get angry.

The kurds call us Mongols and rapists and a whole lot of things while crying to the west.

Turks today are too politically correct about the kurds. Because they can say whatever they like but us Turks cant say anything because of muh racism.

Dirty *** kurds call us mongols and barbarians even in our parliament and they get away with it. So many kurds in Turkey support pkk nothing happens when Turks point this out we are called racists.
 
Kurds are whores and have always been when I say this Turks get angry.

The kurds call us Mongols and rapists and a whole lot of things while crying to the west.

Turks today are too politically correct about the kurds. Because they can say whatever they like but us Turks cant say anything because of muh racism.

Dirty *** kurds call us mongols and barbarians even in our parliament and they get away with it. So many kurds in Turkey support pkk nothing happens when Turks point this out we are called racists.

They are doing the right thing . You can't alienate the pro Turkey Kurds.. This is a long game and you need to hang on.. use the terms Iraqi Kurd gov. or ypg/pkk when addressing the enemy.
 

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